The Baby Boomer Question

That article was written by boomers, about boomers, and for boomers a decade ago, long before boomer bashing was en vogue. I agree it’s a leftist outlook, but it just reflects the frivolity the younger generations have come to associate with that entire generation. I was just browsing images and came upon it, but it gave me a laugh.

Guys like you get a bad rap because of the more vocal elements of your generation and a lot of the stereotype pushed by Hollywood during your generation and by your generation. Also because of the incompetent and corrupt leaders who have emerged from your generation who will all die in office. And also the fact that the the entire culture of the West was gleefully abandoned and pissed on by many, many boomers, resulting in the rapid decay and looming collapse of western civilization as a whole during the tenure of your generation on this earth. Many boomers also had nothing to do with the corruption of their peers, and are wrongfully lumped in with their reputation. There isn’t anything you can do to change it. Just let it go.

You don’t have to defend your whole generation, we are only accountable for what we can control. I don’t defend Millennials because they’re even worse. I just don’t get my nose pushed out of joint when someone lambasts lazy, retarded and corrupt Millennials because the criticism is warranted.


I just don't buy into *any* generational blame. People are complex Individuals of extremely varying natures and they exist in every generation.

Additionally, western society has been bombarded with propaganda for at least a couple of generations. Some people can shrug it off. Most are manipulated by it to one degree or another.

The Boomers had their propaganda and were affected by it. But it's nothing compared to what's being funneled into people's heads today. As I mentioned earlier, the counter culture of the 60s pales in comparison to mainstream culture today.

So who it to blame?

It's not a generational problem.
 
The Boomers had their propaganda and were effected by it. But it's nothing compared to what's being funneled into people's heads today. As I mentioned earlier, the counter culture of the 60s pales in comparison to mainstream culture today.
Agree with you there. Good luck fending off the horde in this thread, looks like you’re getting swarmed. I just couldn’t resist dropping that article when I saw it.
 
Agree with you there. Good luck fending off the horde in this thread, looks like you’re getting swarmed. I just couldn’t resist dropping that article when I saw it.
It doesn't bother me. I've been red pilled since before there was a term to describe it. I understand where all the anger is coming from. I'm a little bit put off by how that anger has been manipulated into being pointed at my generation. But I see so much manipulation going on that it just takes its place on the list.
 
I wonder what percentage of the boomer generation don't believe in the 6 moon landings that were on television from 1969 to 1972.
It must be in the low single digits....probably less than 5%.
The TV moon landings are a like a sacred cow to the boomers.
 
I have my own issues with my contemporaries in the Boomer generation. But they're different that what is coming from the young people. Mostly, I get miffed at how unaware many Boomers are. But it's understandable. Things are moving fast. It takes a concentrated effort to keep up with it all--and many Boomers are at the relaxed stage of their life. They've been worn down trying to keep up with it and just look the other way.

I've gotten to be that way to an extent.
 
I disagree with boomer hate but I do see this often with boomers. Two very wealthy boomers I know with multiple homes and several children each brag that they're not going to leave anything for their children- they'll spend it all in their last years having fun.

In this thread I see boomer posters calling out us younger generations for being terrible. As much in that direction as the other. Yes by any objective measure the younger generations are terrible. What little we've been given we waste more frivolously than the boomers. The boomers are our parents and grandparents though so it comes off as very nasty, disdain for one's own children type stuff. If a boomer were to say “hey we did X wrong, I see millennials/Gen Z doing this wrong as well, I'm giving you a heads up, stop doing that,” - that is a sign or repentance and us younger generations would be very receptive to that. That is how a rebuke should be done if you want change in people with less seniority and life experience than yourself. But I've only rarely heard that in person or online. And one of the boomers who made such a repentant comment is almost in poverty, or is in poverty depending on how you define it.
Bill Gates is one of those boomers that has this philosophy. I get the idea of not spoiling your kids, but he is cold-hearted to not even want to leave 0.1% for his kids and perhaps set up a trust fund so they won't blow all their money on cocaine and prostitutes (if that is a reason he worries about leaving the kids money).

 
I wonder what percentage of the boomer generation don't believe in the 6 moon landings that were on television from 1969 to 1972.
It must be in the low single digits....probably less than 5%.
The TV moon landings are a like a sacred cow to the boomers.
My uncle (a boomer) got angry when I dared to simply state that I am unsure about the Moon Landings. I know that is a different thread, but even stating the idea that it might have been staged will set some off.
 
Bill Gates is one of those boomers that has this philosophy. I get the idea of not spoiling your kids, but he is cold-hearted to not even want to leave 0.1% for his kids and perhaps set up a trust fund so they won't blow all their money on cocaine and prostitutes (if that is a reason he worries about leaving the kids money).


Yeah, but, it's not like all of us Boomers gather at Bill Gates' house on Saturday nights and laugh about how we're putting it to the young people over beers.
 
I understand your point of view very well. I just refuse to accept the blame for the fact that your generation happened to be born after the "powers that be" plunged America into decline.

A generation isn't what caused the decline of America.

Essentially, the wealth of America is being harvested by the handful of people who have the power to do so. If you can think deeply enough on the matter you will eventually understand where that power comes from. Blaming fellow Americans of a certain age group is ridiculous. They have no more power to do anything about it than you do.
I was born in 66 so just barely not a Boomer. The Boomers did readily embrace many of the new cultural norms that were being presented to them. But the truth is so have the following generations. Most people in their 20’s and even 30’s maybe even 40’s would be shocked at how much more normal things were back when the Boomers were in their 20’s then they are now if they suddenly found themselves back in time. In fact the Boomers they would meet their own age would seem backward and lacking modern sensibilities. Boomer’s in their time were mostly real men far more so then the contemporary situation. But Boomer’s at this time are mostly clueless to how drastically things have changed and are unaware of their part in that. Obviously their are exceptions to that such as yourself. I do agree that the Boomer’s on their own did not come up with any of the cultural destroying nonsense that many embraced.
 
Every generation has had gatekeepers and every generation has to play the hand they are dealt.

I associate America’s plunge with the Boomers because the most foolish plays have been made by leaders from that generation once they started taking positions of power, which is pretty much from the 90’s onwards. And this despite being dealt a great hand which was pretty much their game to lose. To name a few- gutting the manufacturing base and outsourcing it overseas, changing student debt laws, the war on terror, 2008 crash, bailouts, QE… the national deficit and the money printing has gone exponential under the Boomer‘s watch.

At least the WW2 generation had the sense to keep the deficit relatively in check because they had lived through that war and the depression.

I understand your point that one generation isn’t alone to blame. The country has been creeping towards this point for much longer than that, but it did begin to tremendously misstep in a much more irreversible, accelerated way once Boomers got into power.
The WW2 generation allowed all the subversion that happened in the sixties to take place they were the ones in power and the parents that overindulged the Boomers. The people now in power were the worst of that generation that fully embraced left wing ideals. The average Boomer just worked, served in Vietnam and didn’t smoke pot or take drugs. But the people now in power took drugs, avoided military service or at least dangerous military service. Just look at pictures of Bill and Hillary Clinton, stereotypical hippies.
 
My uncle (a boomer) got angry when I dared to simply state that I am unsure about the Moon Landings. I know that is a different thread, but even stating the idea that it might have been staged will set some off.
It was a big event. I remember seeing it as a small child. The adults that seen it had no reason to expect a hoax. They believe they have seen it with their own eyes. So try to understand why they may continue to be gullible.
 
My uncle (a boomer) got angry when I dared to simply state that I am unsure about the Moon Landings. I know that is a different thread, but even stating the idea that it might have been staged will set some off.
My dad brought this up, unprompted, at Easter dinner a year ago. He and my brother-in-law spent part of the dinner discussing how crazy people were to doubt the moon landings and began reviewing all of the evidence. I’m skeptical about the landings simply because I tend to doubt anything promoted that heavily by the government/media apparatus.

I did not participate in the discussion because I don’t know enough to make an argument one way or the other. I haven’t delved into it very deeply because I don’t care. It doesn’t impact anything of importance to my life. The missions seemed like useless endeavors for bragging rights that cost a lot of money. It is evident, though, that the moon landings are a part of the boomer identity. For this reason, they are a sacred cow.
 
But Boomer’s at this time are mostly clueless to how drastically things have changed
That's definitely true. But many of us Boomers are at that place where we tend to become "in the world but not of it",..either in a spiritual way or not.

Some never knew. Some watched until they had seen enough and just looked the other way. That's kind of where I'm at--and it's what got me serious about my spiritual life a couple of years ago.

I typically don't even dwell on matters such as these any more. I used to get on line and discuss them endlessly. But my interest has waned. This is the most involved I've been in a while. I honestly don't care very much about "in the world" stuff these days.

It's got to play out. I've known that for a while. I'm used to the idea.

I just want to have myself spiritually ready for whatever the end game to all of this insanity is. That's my motivation these days.
 
I understand your point of view very well. I just refuse to accept the blame for the fact that your generation happened to be born after the "powers that be" plunged America into decline.

A generation isn't what caused the decline of America.

Essentially, the wealth of America is being harvested by the handful of people who have the power to do so. If you can think deeply enough on the matter you will eventually understand where that power comes from. Blaming fellow Americans of a certain age group is ridiculous. They have no more power to do anything about it than you do.

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I can provide some insights about immigrants Russian boomers, or at least the overwhelming majority of the blue pilled ones.

One characteristic of such people that I have observed, is that they are at least in part to blame in the abandonment of traditional Russian culture in favor of Soviet/Western ones. I say this because many of them grew up in households where the Russian traditions were still held. So preserving these traditions would have come naturally to them. Why didn't they preserve these traditions and pass them down to the later generations? They made no attempt to preserve the culture. Even some boomers who grew up in Orthodox households didn't preserve their religion nor pass it down to the next generation.

Many of such people have adopted the Soviet, Ukrainian, Federation, or American identities, instead of the Ruski identity. They have discarded the identity of the Ruski people, of their culture and civilization, in favor of artificial identities which are based on a loyalty to the state, to the made up country that they are residing in. They would say, for example, "we are the Soviet people, we are not the Ruski people."

Whenever I talk about the history or culture of my people (I wanted to say our people, but unfortunately that would be a misrepresentation), with the boomers who came from the territories of the former Russian Empire, they wouldn't take it seriously. They would say stuff like, "the Russian Empire collapsed long ago", "you live in the 21st century", "nobody wants to hear about that", "your culture doesn't exist anymore", or even "your culture never existed at all". Such responses throw me into dismay, how can old people say such things?

They have no sense of national identity, it seems. They didn't strive to cultivate the national identity and it's associated traditions within their families, nor to pass this treasure onto the next generation. And they ridicule people who in fact indeed do this.

I think that their rejection of traditional culture maybe a justification of their actions earlier in life. These people grew up during the Soviet Union, when the communists ordered to abandon the Ruski identity and the Ruski culture, these people complied. So they have to save face all their lives to justify their actions, why they so easily got rid of their culture, similar to how people who took the vaxx. Instead of admitting their error, they doubled down on it, becoming more cosmopolitan than the young people.

That's disappointing, because in the Russian traditional culture, elders were very well respected, they were supposed to be very wise people, the keepers and teachers of tradition. However now we young people have to be our own elders, or we have to find elders on the internet, YouTube, and various podcasts. We have to search the internet for bits and pieces of the Ruski traditional culture in an attempt to restore it, because the boomers discarded what they had given wholesale.

These are my observations about Russian immigrant boomers. Keep in mind that immigration attracts a certain kind of demographic though.
 
I can provide some insights about immigrants Russian boomers, or at least the overwhelming majority of the blue pilled ones.

One characteristic of such people that I have observed, is that they are at least in part to blame in the abandonment of traditional Russian culture in favor of Soviet/Western ones. I say this because many of them grew up in households where the Russian traditions were still held. So preserving these traditions would have come naturally to them. Why didn't they preserve these traditions and pass them down to the later generations? They made no attempt to preserve the culture. Even some boomers who grew up in Orthodox households didn't preserve their religion nor pass it down to the next generation.

Many of such people have adopted the Soviet, Ukrainian, Federation, or American identities, instead of the Ruski identity. They have discarded the identity of the Ruski people, of their culture and civilization, in favor of artificial identities which are based on a loyalty to the state, to the made up country that they are residing in. They would say, for example, "we are the Soviet people, we are not the Ruski people."

Whenever I talk about the history or culture of my people (I wanted to say our people, but unfortunately that would be a misrepresentation), with the boomers who came from the territories of the former Russian Empire, they wouldn't take it seriously. They would say stuff like, "the Russian Empire collapsed long ago", "you live in the 21st century", "nobody wants to hear about that", "your culture doesn't exist anymore", or even "your culture never existed at all". Such responses throw me into dismay, how can old people say such things?

They have no sense of national identity, it seems. They didn't strive to cultivate the national identity and it's associated traditions within their families, nor to pass this treasure onto the next generation. And they ridicule people who in fact indeed do this.

I think that their rejection of traditional culture maybe a justification of their actions earlier in life. These people grew up during the Soviet Union, when the communists ordered to abandon the Ruski identity and the Ruski culture, these people complied. So they have to save face all their lives to justify their actions, why they so easily got rid of their culture, similar to how people who took the vaxx. Instead of admitting their error, they doubled down on it, becoming more cosmopolitan than the young people.

That's disappointing, because in the Russian traditional culture, elders were very well respected, they were supposed to be very wise people, the keepers and teachers of tradition. However now we young people have to be our own elders, or we have to find elders on the internet, YouTube, and various podcasts. We have to search the internet for bits and pieces of the Ruski traditional culture in an attempt to restore it, because the boomers discarded what they had given wholesale.

These are my observations about Russian immigrant boomers. Keep in mind that immigration attracts a certain kind of demographic though.
My opinion, the primary reason that Putin drew his line in the sand in Ukraine was to stop the influence of western globohomo from infecting Russia.

The Russian Black Sea ports and the oppression of ethnic Russians by Ukranians was another big reason, of course. But those are just elements of western culture globohomo infiltrating Russia.

Globohomo is just another Bolshevik Revolution. One is enough for Russia. Putin understands that.
 
Boomers born from 1946 to 1964 were the largest cohort to be drafted and forced to serve in Vietnam and over 50,000 never made it home - This war is vilified by history revisionists but was the first shot across the bow of both the Soviet Communists and the Chinese Freaking Red Communists backing the Viet Cong - then the Boomers were the ones who fought and WON the cold war (Dissolution of the Soviet Union, Fall of the Berlin Wall, Transformation of CFRCs into capitalism, reconstruction of Germany, Japan, and South Korea into innovative Economic powers). The BOOMERS are largely responsible for the safe prosperous USA and EU you all live in today yet many radical left Millenials are calling for Open Borders and massive low IQ gimmegrant invasions of both the USA and EU/UK - go figure.

Anyone who espouses BOOMER hatred should first look into a large mirror at their own reflection.
Boomers were also the ones who voted the Democrats into a majority in the early 70s, who then went on to cut off the funding for the South Vietnamese government, barely able to stand as an independent country we left in 1973. Without the funding, things collapsed and all that work by boomer draftees went straight into the can, followed by thousands of boat people flowing to parts unknown. Great job, boomers.

Boomers are also the ones who fell in love with a bad Jane Fonda movie in the 1970s (The China Syndrome), the mentality of which still prevents us from building any more nuclear power plants while we try in vain to meet the same energy goals with foolhardy wind and solar joke attempts, since muh, fossil fuel bad too!

Boomers support immigrants "so long as their legal" even though that's become a distinction without a difference. Boomers grew up saying "you can't trust anyone over 30" but when I was in high school in the 80s, the expression became "we ID all under 30" Boomers did the miraculous job of obliterating the old religious order and threw a party for themselves while leaving us with the AIDS epidemic and false rape accusations.

The only thing worse than you was the "greatest generation" who spoiled you by providing an upbringing no longer possible in a country that no longer exists.

Thanks a lot, boomers.
 
Recently read an opinion piece that pointed out that Boomers retiring is one reason that there is a labor shortage. Irreverent as they were, they did not seem to suffer from sloth. In fact, it seems they erred in the opposite direction becoming workaholics perhaps motivated by worldly things. After decades of out-sourcing and in-sourcing, (along-side technological advances creating numerous, cheap diversions); the younger generations have less motivation to participate in the rat race.
 
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