Student loan debt forgiveness is something I strongly support. It’s an albatross around the necks of a lot of people who were told all their early lives that they needed to go to school to get ahead. It serves only to hurt Americans and be used as political leverage as seen above. Even the God in the OT commanded a debt jubilee for the Hebrews.
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Student loan debt forgiveness is something I strongly support. It’s an albatross around the necks of a lot of people who were told all their early lives that they needed to go to school to get ahead. It serves only to hurt Americans and be used as political leverage as seen above. Even the God in the OT commanded a debt jubilee for the Hebrews.
College has gotten way too expensive anyways. 50 years ago the same degree would cost a few thousand dollars /year (in todays money) now costs 60000/year
dicknixon72
Pelican
If you really wanted to help students and young adults, you would start with the 2024 academic year a cap on what any public college or university could possibly charge for credit hours and do the same for textbooks. If you want to live on campus and all the other confetti that comes with the 'college experience' pay extra for that, I don't care. But cap tuition by credit hours
If you want to help students and young people you would stop giving out limitless loans to people who aren't intelligent enough to earn worthwhile degrees. That would fix the incredibly saturated degree fields and it would force university's to lower tuition. If someone wants to get a worthless degree it should be on their own dime, that will fix things real quick. College was a great thing for the best and brightest who earned their place and the country needed that, now it's for anyone who can fill out an application. Education is always a good thing but a 250k degree in a garbage field of study that you wasted 6 years of your life on where you would be lucky to get 45k a year job because every idiot did the same thing as you is not.
I think people in favor of student debt relief should pay extra taxes to cover the cost of the loans that are paid off. Obviously this would have to include the ones whose loans were cancelled.
Easy_C
Peacock
I draw a distinction between interest and principle.
Even if you did support it, this does nothing. Total student loan debt is 1.8 trillion and it had doubled in the last 10 years.
95B was borrowed during the 2021-22 school year alone.
This forgiveness doesn’t even cover a semester. It’s pure semantics to get votes.
But the tab will be passed on to my children. Yay?
Tuition is out of control and it’s due to the institutions. No one dares confront them. GOP is too busy shipping billions to Zelensky to fund his coke habit.
No…Its Jim Acosta
First of all, it's not like Israel needs anyone standing up for them.
Second, establishment GOPers sound a lot like butthurt lefties who saw a racist-colored ice cream cone and got their feelings hurt.
GOP spends more time defending Israel and Zelensky than American conservatives.
To some extent the GOP is far more incompetent than the Dems. The Dems know their base and play to it constantly.
The GOP doesn't have a base. They can't identify its base. When they talk, it's to their donors, lobbyists, special interests and fellow country club schlubs.
I can't speak to conditions 50 years ago, but I started at a state university 40 years ago, and at that time, it cost about $5000/yr with tuition, fees, books, and cost of living for a year, or $20K for a bachelor's degree. That's about $60K in today's money for the full four year degree including everything. As you say, even a state school costs about four times as much now. Private schools cost $60K+ per year for tuition alone, not to mention the cost of living, which can be super expensive in places like Cambridge, MA or other top university locations. It's not necessary to attend an expensive private school to get a good four year degree, but even a decent state university costs a fortune now.
Edit: when I think about the cost of living back then, I think prices have come up more than 3x since then. $30K was a good household income back then, way better than $90K now. $10/hr was a living wage that could support a family. I'd have to say prices have actually come up 5x since then, so $5000/yr for school is more like $25K now. That's still a lot less than I think most students can work out now. In some less expensive states, where the state university is located in a college town that doesn't have big city living expenses, it may be possible to get by for $40-45K per year including living costs. In a lot of coastal states, I think higher living costs for a single college student in the dorms or sharing an apartment with roommates would still cost at least $60K/yr altogether.
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This is exactly it, while the dems appeal to their base which is made up of NPC, degenerate junkies, anti-white genocidal maniacs, lgbtq, feminist, welfare recipients, even unions to some extent, the republican party is so out of touch with priorities they are blatantly traitors at worst or arrogant oligarch puppets at best.
Huh.
Guess 'They' didn't blackmail or compromise this gay 'whistleblower' enough...
Or 'They' are just about ready to get rid of Biden.
This is far from a partisan witch hunt...
Guess 'They' didn't blackmail or compromise this gay 'whistleblower' enough...
Or 'They' are just about ready to get rid of Biden.
Watch Live: IRS Whistleblowers - One, A Gay Democrat - Testify Against Bidens
This is far from a partisan witch hunt...
Back in the mid-80's, I attended a community college for two years while living in my folks' house and worked part-time jobs. Full-time tuition was less than $600 USD per semester; textbooks cost roughly around $300 USD. Used books were cheaper; new books were ridiculously too expensive.
Tuition and books were paid out of my own pocket so it was roughly less than $2,500 USD per year with other extra hidden fees (i.e., student center fee, lab fee, parking fee, etc.) to attend a community college.
I then transferred to a private four year (technical) college. It was pretty expensive because of the room and board costs on top of tuition. Also, the college had a quarterly system -- 10 weeks of classes plus 1 week of final exams. This meant 4 quarters a year: fall, winter, spring and summer. It was brutal because I was working multiple jobs -- barely passing my courses.
Edit. Yikes...I took a look at my former colleges' current costs for full-time student.
| Community College | Four Year College |
| $6,700 USD full-time tuition & fees (student activities center + student health) $1,400 USD books & supplies | $56,150 USD full-time tuition $880 USD student activities center & student health fees $15,500 USD room & board $2,900 USD other expenses (i.e., books, transportation, etc.) |
| Total: $8,100 USD per year | Total: $75,430 USD per year |
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