The Bitcoin (BTC) thread

Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
Maduro is good but personally I'll be smoking a Cohiba after I skim the potheads of some short term money.

You think Doge will follow BTCs trend that day? There's more money making potential there.
Like I mentioned in my Post above BTC is the tide that raises and lowers the ALTs - Doge is a follower... Personally I am looking at Monero on the ABC Correction for a buy in.
 
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Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
I have

If you have a 1070ti or better, and elec is under. 07/kwh, you can make at least $100/mo, just mine the most profitable coin and trade for monero.
I have a source of free electricity but can't get my hands on more graphics cards...
Please do share what the current most profitable coins to mine are.
 

MrFreezy

Robin
With the US elite, due to their arrogance they have a habit of not choosing successors or choosing completely awful ones in the case of human soy-twiglet Alex Soros. There was the Elihu Root set, the Dulles brothers set, the Rockefeller-Brezinski-Kissinger combine. And now nothing. When the Dulles set was on the way out Kennedy slipped in on the back of his wealth. As Brezinski and Rockefeller were on their death beds The Orange Man slipped in on the back of his wealth. Both failures, as The US is controlled by "covert means" to quote JFK.
Rule of nature: Rich parents tend to have decadent effed up kids.
Nice to see someone talking sense. Not everything is a conspiracy most of it is just uncontrolled chaos...
 

Arado

Pelican
Gold Member
@Arado - regarding your query. I don't think the globalists are in the business of pushing out dark projects. They don't need too. You can see with the virus hoax how incapable of analysis people are. Most people are incapable of doing anything but downloading the official line. Anyone outside of the download is considered an idiot. And society is almost wholly controlled by institutional narratives.

Most of what they are pushing now has been lying around in think tank reports and elite white papers for decades. I have not heard anything about them using a stealth, essentially uncontrollable currency. They have been writing about the opposite, getting rid of cash and forcing people onto a new central bank system backed by a global basket of fiat. That makes perfect sense, as the current financial order is decaying and they already had a new one mapped out to replace it.

The Western elite have a useful habit of folding what used to be diametric threats into their system. Consider The Blacks. Several decades ago they didn't want anything to do with them. Now they all wear them as armour. They have rolled the radical left up into their system; and they will attempt to do the same with crypto.

With the US elite, due to their arrogance they have a habit of not choosing successors or choosing completely awful ones in the case of human soy-twiglet Alex Soros. There was the Elihu Root set, the Dulles brothers set, the Rockefeller-Brezinski-Kissinger combine. And now nothing. When the Dulles set was on the way out Kennedy slipped in on the back of his wealth. As Brezinski and Rockefeller were on their death beds The Orange Man slipped in on the back of his wealth. Both failures, as The US is controlled by "covert means" to quote JFK.

Going forward, it is possible we will see the emergence of a new crypto-elite, who will walk all over the corpses of Google, Amazon et. al. We have seen the same before with nobodies coming to immense power, e.g. John D. Rockefeller, Harriman, Cornelis Vanderbilt, Cuckerberg, Dorsey, Henry Ford and so on.

As for the money masters. Who know who they are or what they are up to. But I've not seen anything from The BIS to show they are in control of crypto. Maybe this is the "industrial revolution" that finally unseats them. Maybe like Rockefeller and co. they are all dead and the ship is going out of control; with Soros making it his moment.

As for a lot of big money coming in. Maybe they are just operating on greed. The financial sector makes money from doing next to nothing, often from government-licenced strongholds. Some may follow greed to their doom.

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Do you really believe that everyone is just improvising and taking advantage of an opportunity? With everything else that people have written about on the forum, from COVID, to the election, to WW2, and all the other shady stories out there? I really hope you are right. The money masters have been around for quite some time, are they really willing to give up that power to computer code?
 

Coja Petrus Uscan

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
Do you really believe that everyone is just improvising and taking advantage of an opportunity? With everything else that people have written about on the forum, from COVID, to the election, to WW2, and all the other shady stories out there? I really hope you are right. The money masters have been around for quite some time, are they really willing to give up that power to computer code?

I don't know, but there has always been turnover in elites. It's been getting quicker and quicker. You can see it with how aggressive the likes of Facebook are to the legacy media. INnmodernity there is a long history of new industries gobbling up old elites. In late feudal times you required a royal licence to have a market. The countries that opened up to the commercial class (firstly Italy) became more competitive and powerful. Other monarchs were thus forced to open up to a system that slowly destroyed them. As posted already The UAE wants to make crypto the cornerstone of economic growth. They have white papers show how they can use it to cut all sorts of costs dramatically, make things more efficient and attract wealth. Elsewhere the bankers will be getting worried and wanting to turn it on its head. But here the government rules and will force them to do as they please. UAE, Bahrain, Switzerland, Lichtenstein, Singapore and Estonia are going to get the first cream from crypto. With the dire economic situation, others are going to have to follow or end up like some North Korea.

Some people say we are run from behind the scenes by the black nobility. I find it hard to believe that a bunch of unknown families have been able to keep control of everything for centuries, somehow being the most wealthy people in the world while completely unknown.

Feudal revolution (over barbarism) - 1,000-1,500 years
*printing press*
Mercantile revolution (over feudalism) - 300 years
*printed publications and the rise of literacy via Protestants*
Industrial revolution (over mercantilism) - 200 years
*'full'-literacy and mass communications: TV, daily news, radio, phones/telegrams, media*
Electrical + mass-production revolution (over industrial) - 80 years
*widespread global literacy and use of a universal language (English); instant communications for half the world*
Network revolution - 20 years thus far
*proposed bio-tech interfaces*
[Projected bio-tech revolution - The Mark], around 2040

Land owners, merchants and industrialists are now largely irrelevant to global power.

This current move is the first to be a technological revolution that is a direct threat to the banking system. My bet is they (whoever controls banking) loose, though the new crypto rulers could end up being much worse. It is hard to tell as crypto offers both the biggest possibility for slavery and freedom.

We now see the first wave of the network revolution merging into the government - Facebook, Google etc.. Elites don't tend to be from just one sphere. They tend to be mergers. Question is will crypto be more like Facebook and merge with the government = slavery. Or will they attempt to be more like their forefather, open source = freedom.

Whoever is in control wouldn't launch something like Bitcoin as some secret mist to take control in a way no one can explain, while simultaneously creating a new elite and loads of wealthy, right/libertarian men. Brian Stelter would be out their pushing crypto between his buttered buns. Bitcoin is obviously non-normie. Programming normies to accept what you want is a piece of cake.


Most people are incapable of doing anything but downloading the official line.


Due to the fake pandemic I have realied most people are not worth consulting on anything. IRL I have known maybe 2-3 people who can look at the world, observe how different things relate to each other and tell you something useful as a result. Most people can only tell you what they have been told by authorities. I've been told all my life by normies I am bad, mad, stupid, will disappear into a void etc.

I have been telling people I know the sort of stuff you will read on the forum, for years - bad, mad, stupid... Then I've watched as broadly the world we have outlined from empirical evidence and non-kosher sources becomes verging on glaringly obvious. You are deemed none the more reliable for this. And broadly what they say turns out to be broadly what doesn't happen. They don't change their sources.

Back in March 2020 I began telling people to buy the crypto crash. No one did. They are all talking and asking about it now its in the NYSlimes and fake news goblins crawl out of the Triassic news period. Recently one asked me about a friend who I suspect has passed nine figures. The guy asking is not someone I trust. So to his queries about me, I just said I am mostly in crypto - "Oooohhhh! Isn't that dangerous!?!?" He said the same thing when BTC was at about $5-6K last year. This is the general population's take on the best performing asset class since 2009.

They don't need to dupe these people into slavery. They are already there.
 
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Blade Runner

Ostrich
Orthodox
This current move is the first to be a technological revolution that is a direct threat to the banking system. My bet is they (whoever controls banking) loose, though the new crypto rulers could end up being much worse. It is hard to tell as crypto offers both the biggest possibility for slavery and freedom.
I've thought of this many times before, yes, I think there is a chance it oddly turns out that the crypto system with its whales presents new and different challenges. The problem is that it's just hard to imagine how much worse it can get then the old system causing crashes and front running the assets while entire populations have the rug pulled out from under them.

We now see the first wave of the network revolution merging into the government - Facebook, Google etc.. Elites don't tend to be from just one sphere. They tend to be mergers. Question is will crypto be more like Facebook and merge with the government = slavery. Or will they attempt to be more like their forefather, open source = freedom.
IF America takes the right path, this is the coming showdown between China and the US.

I think FB and Google begin to die in the latter part of this decade, FB sooner. MSFT will last.
 

doodydota

Sparrow
Can someone explain what is going on with Dogecoin?
This is ridiculous...


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kel

Ostrich
Someone mentioned a lulz push to get it to $69 (or $0.69? $69 seems aggressive even for shitcoin) for 4/20, maybe the meme is making real moves.

Still more rational than the stock market.
 
Do you guys think litecoin is a cheaper yet sound alternative to bitcoin ? It's market cap is only $15B yet its volume is nearly half that .

Litecoin just hit $315 today, and from a 3 month or shorter perspective, is outperforming bitcoin, and ethereum . Bitboy says litecoin will hit $2400 by the fall . It's still historically at its cheapest ratio wise compared to bitcoin and ethereum . It seems pretty boring and safe . Keep an eye on it if you're a risk averse baby like me folks.

edit: sorry gentlemen I forgot this was the bitcoin, and not general crypto thread
 

RalphMalph

Woodpecker
Litecoin just hit $315 today, and from a 3 month or shorter perspective, is outperforming bitcoin, and ethereum . Bitboy says litecoin will hit $2400 by the fall . It's still historically at its cheapest ratio wise compared to bitcoin and ethereum . It seems pretty boring and safe . Keep an eye on it if you're a risk averse baby like me folks.

edit: sorry gentlemen I forgot this was the bitcoin, and not general crypto thread
Just for that may all ur crypto turn into Dogecoin!!!!! :laughter:
 

aynrus

Pelican
People on here who own crypto - do you have experience actually cashing out your crypto?
If yes, through which service/exchange/bank were you able to do it without some major hassle and frozen account.

I'm an American/dual citizen and I can't even withdraw 100 bucks I have in paypal account from ebay sale, account is frozen with no explanation or way to contact anyone (and I only used that account once, to sell an item on ebay and to pay a couple of bills, so there was nothing "funny" going) With this kind of KYC going on I wonder would people be able to withdraw all that crypto value into fiat if they actually need to pay for things or if they need to exit their positions for other reasons like major policy changes. So far I can't buy/rent housing, car, food, medical care, insurance, etc with crypto, realistically, plus crypto payments got criminalized in my 2nd citizenship country. Methinks there'll be some major hurdles to actually use the value from crypto investment.
 
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Coja Petrus Uscan

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
People on here who own crypto - do you have experience actually cashing out your crypto?
If yes, through which service/exchange/bank were you able to do it without some major hassle and frozen account.

I'm an American/dual citizen and I can't even withdraw 100 bucks I have in paypal account from ebay sale, account is frozen with no explanation or way to contact anyone (and I only used that account once, to sell an item on ebay and to pay a couple of bills, so there was nothing "funny" going) With this kind of KYC going on I wonder would people be able to withdraw all that crypto value into fiat if they actually need to pay for things. So far I can't buy/rent housing, car, food, medical care, insurance, etc with crypto, realistically, plus crypto payments got criminalized in my 2nd citizenship country. Methinks there'll be some major hurdles to actually use the value from crypto investment.

You can cash out to TransferWise (now Wise), but you cannot send to buy crypto using it. It' very good for getting around international transfers that raise more scrutiny; and has very low fees.

Lithuania is a haven for crypto-banking. I have one called Bankera that I strictly use for crypto for a corporate account. Here is the personal page: https://bankera.com/pricing/personal-account/

I'd also get a few crypto debit cards. In The US you have Crypto.com, BitPay, Paysera, Payeer, Crypterium and no doubt many more.

I would look to see what banks are said to be crypto-friendly online. In Europe I know there are a lot. For example the FTX exchange uses Citibank for GBP, while some crypto-specialist bank in The US. UK, Lithuania, Malta, Switzerland and Lichtenstein are the best.

DukasCopy in Switzerland accepts deposits/withdrawals in crypto.

There are plenty of options. It serves to have a lot of open avenues.

I was speaking to a guy here, he bought a $1 million apartment with crypto gains. All the banks accept crypto, except Arab Bank and Mashreq Bank. With the government going all in on crypto, they will no doubt be told to do as they are required!

AdvCash is popular in Russia - https://advcash.com/en/

FTX was using PayPal, but it's on hold: https://help.ftx.com/hc/en-us/articles/360057303052-Depositing-to-FTX-with-Paypal
 
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aynrus

Pelican
You can cash out to TransferWise (now Wise), but you cannot send to buy crypto using it.

Lithuania is a haven for crypto-banking. I have one called Bankera that I strictly use for crypto for a corporate account. Here is the personal page: https://bankera.com/pricing/personal-account/

I'd also get a few crypto debit cards. In The US you have Crypto.com, BitPay, Paysera, Payeer, Crypterium and no doubt many more.

I would look to see what banks are said to be crypto-friendly online. In Europe I know there are a lot. For example the FTX exchange uses Citibank for GBP, while some crypto-specialist bank in The US.

DukasCopy in Switzerland accepts deposits/withdrawals in crypto.

There are plenty of options. It serves to have a lot of open avenues.

AdvCash is popular in Russia - https://advcash.com/en/

FTX was using PayPal, but it's on hold: https://help.ftx.com/hc/en-us/articles/360057303052-Depositing-to-FTX-with-Paypal

FTX with Paypal....I mean I can't even use paypal anymore for no logical reason, clearly, or get my money out of it , not at least for many months.
If someone had put small amount of "spare change" into crypto and they gained that's good, but seeing that you can't even touch own small sum like $100, and no one to contact, give you explanation and this is legal with no recourse.... makes me wonder about anything electronic at this point.
By the way I'm glad Transferwise works wtih Americans, seems like this is rare (bet most of these banks you listed do not). I heard of money getting stuck in Transferwise, not sure if this stopped.
I'd be concerned about keeping unrealized gain frankly, given how easy it is to ban someone.
I guess I'm feeling full mistrust of financial institutions - and to get the fiat out you have to go through them and they can pull their shady KYC and freeze funds.
It's great to have gains locked in crypto but I have a feeling they can pull the plug globally any moment.
I know that precious metals performed lousy over decades and are risky to store, but they're starting to look better by the day compared to electronic stuff.
 
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Dr Mantis Toboggan

Kingfisher
Gold Member
People on here who own crypto - do you have experience actually cashing out your crypto?
If yes, through which service/exchange/bank were you able to do it without some major hassle and frozen account.

I'm an American/dual citizen and I can't even withdraw 100 bucks I have in paypal account from ebay sale, account is frozen with no explanation or way to contact anyone (and I only used that account once, to sell an item on ebay and to pay a couple of bills, so there was nothing "funny" going) With this kind of KYC going on I wonder would people be able to withdraw all that crypto value into fiat if they actually need to pay for things or if they need to exit their positions for other reasons like major policy changes. So far I can't buy/rent housing, car, food, medical care, insurance, etc with crypto, realistically, plus crypto payments got criminalized in my 2nd citizenship country. Methinks there'll be some major hurdles to actually use the value from crypto investment.

I've done it with no hassle, Coinbase and a major US bank, although never more than about $2000 at a time (and not at all in several years).
 
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