The Boomer Question

Gimlet

Kingfisher
Not to mention that such kids are actually making money by streaming themselves playing video games in their parents' basements. Some actually make pretty decent money.

And the best part is, those kids don't have to keep current for their jobs by constantly reading books or attending conferences to stay on the "cutting edge" of tech like a lot of white collar jobs involve. I don't blame them for taking the easy road out. Our economy is a broken mess, and does not incentivize good behavior or the development of civilization-maintaining skills.

Do enough people watch 40+ year old men play video games to make this a sustainable career? Or is this a revenue stream like Only Fans with a limited shelf life? What does a 40+ year old stripper/video game streamer do after they age out?
 

DanielH

Pelican
Orthodox
The WHINGING OH POOR ME PITY PARTY IN THIS THREAD IS BEYOND EPIC.

Serve 6 years on a boat similar to my Avatar and get back to me NOT!

Attitude determines Altitude
Somewhat off topic: submariners nowadays are all on the verge of suicide. They get to undergo the humiliation indoctrination for being white that the rest of the military goes through, but with the added bonus of not being able to visit family in another state if they're not vaccinated in most cases. There are huge numbers of suicides now that don't make it in the news. They are also some of the most degenerate people I have ever met, as they are not exposed to any form of Christianity. Their chiefs are mostly abysmal. The boats with women are now glorified whorehouses. Every submariner or merchant mariner I've ever met who has spent multiple years at sea, with one exception, has been horribly spiritually and mentally damaged. I would not recommend working at sea to anyone.

Back on topic, boomers have not passed on their skills, or beliefs, or traditions to their children. I was never taught any automotive skills growing up, hardly any mechanical or DIY skills. Most people in my generation have no outdoor skills, don't go to church, can't fix a car, can't fix their homes, and don't know how to have a functional relationship. Those usually aren't things that are learned in isolation. If not taught, those skills simply vanish. I can't understate how abandoned the younger generations are. I don't know why boomers won't just own up to this about their generation. They traded functional families for wealth, and they'll pay for it by rotting away in retirement homes, since they have no relationship with their children. I don't think the younger generations are any better; we haven't shown much desire for repentance, we're overcome by a weird mixture of vanity and anxiety.

The psychological trials of dwellers in the last times will be equal to the physical trials of the martyrs. In order to face these trials, we must be living in a different world.
-Father Seraphim Rose. We're close to those times if not in them already.
 

The Prime Minister

Sparrow
Orthodox
The WHINGING OH POOR ME PITY PARTY IN THIS THREAD IS BEYOND EPIC.

Serve 6 years on a boat similar to my Avatar and get back to me NOT!

Attitude determines Altitude

"Pull yourself up by the bootstraps!"

"Stop being lazy!"

"Back in my day I bought a 5-bedroom house with a minimum wage salary. You young kids are just not willing to put in the hard work! You're too soft nowadays, always expecting everything to come easy!"

No offense but you sound like a typical boomer.

I'm in my late 20s but my parents are also typical boomers.

Do you not realize just how fucked up todays world is? Everything is fucked up and way more worse than during the Boomer Golden Age.

We have a right to complain and point out how fucked up this world is. Boomers are so out of touch and I hate their gaslighting and moral posturing.

Get some fucking perspective man, seriously.
 

Grow Bag

Kingfisher
Something to maybe consider is how those in their prime now will be judged in 40 years time. I can't imagine anyone living in a pod, trying to scrape enough carbon credits for their next bug burger, will be too pleased with you either. Generational scapegoating is ludicrous.
John 8:7
 
Something to maybe consider is how those in their prime now will be judged in 40 years time. I can't imagine anyone living in a pod, trying to scrape enough carbon credits for their next bug burger, will be too pleased with you either. Generational scapegoating is ludicrous.
John 8:7
I don't believe anyone here is generational scapegoating, not in the least. They are simply asking the Boomers now, in the year 2021, to admit things are very bad and their "wisdom" of work harder, save more money, isn't going to cut it. We are asking them to fully admit that things are very bad and that young people are not "lazy" but instead have no reward for hard work.
 
I don't believe anyone here is generational scapegoating, not in the least.

There is only one answer to the Boomer problem...remove them from power then ignore them.

They are, on average, a generation of the fattest, laziest, and most immoral slobs in existence and they can't shut up about themselves.

At least millennials and zooms have enough self awareness not to prattle about themselves on a high horse like anyone cares.
 
A previous employer had boomers gloating how they would be making more on pension than my annual salary. While wages across the board had gone up less than 2% per year for at least decade. New hires had to contribute substantially more to pensions and received less benefits. Very few Boomers would even acknowledge this reality. Really hoping we can claw some of these entitlements back and spread them out, because they clearly allocated their own entitlements based on optimistic/best case scenarios
 
A previous employer had boomers gloating how they would be making more on pension than my annual salary. While wages across the board had gone up less than 2% per year for at least decade. New hires had to contribute substantially more to pensions and received less benefits. Very few Boomers would even acknowledge this reality. Really hoping we can claw some of these entitlements back and spread them out, because they clearly allocated their own entitlements based on optimistic/best case scenarios
This might be the best reason to get Boomers to admit how bad things are. This IS going to happen. Boomers are going to have their pensions and investments slashed by more than half because they simply are not sustainable. If they admit things are bad and that this will happen, they will go out and work hard to prepare for it.

Boomers are going to have the rug pulled out from underneath them once they are too old and weak to recover from it.
 

FactusIRX

Kingfisher
I met a few years ago with a boomer lawyer He's a multi-millionaire and made the vast majority of his money with oil and gas stock options during the boom. He's still practicing in his 70s. I asked if he was willing to train me for free, and he told me he's not interested because it's too much work. He told me to just learn it all myself and figure it out.

He was raised Catholic, but told me that he doesn't believe in fairly tales anymore. He has three children and cannot figure out why they are so militantly socialist. He holds your typical boomer fiscally conservative views, but is also pro immigration and anti-religion.

He was the complete and absolute encapsulation of the boomer spirit. White boomers have 0 loyalty to their race, religion, or their heritage. They are not interested at all in training and developing the next generation of white men, even though their own wealth was made of the backs from their white parents. They have completely abandoned Christianity and traditional values. They are not willing to fight or suffer even a little despite having the vast majority of wealth and power of any generation. They still praise immigration. They still give the same tired, useless advice that will destroy a young man. They don't understand even the most basic ideas of what has happened and what will happen.

Despite all of this, they have such a staggering amount of confidence in themselves. I lost count of the amount of boomer lawyers that I met who only cared about their status and their "macho" persona, but had their assistants do all the work because they could barely operate a computer. They constantly talk about working hard and putting in the hours, but they gladly take off the afternoon to golf at private country clubs.

I look at myself. My father never taught me how to fix a car, or how to use tools, or any basic mechanical skill set. He would always say: why do it yourself, when can just need to hire a pro to do it. I'm more conservative than my parents. I had to teach myself Christianity from a traditional perspective and undo years of learning feminine, liberal Christianity. My parents never saved for my tuition, but basically gave me an ultimatum to attend University or be kicked out of the house. As a result, I saddled myself with nearly 100K of useless debt for the privilege of having "intersectional" psychopaths feed me propaganda, so I would hate myself. My parents are old and wasted all their money on garbage and have no retirement plan. They have no inheritance for me or my brother. Guess who is going to have to clean their mess?

Despite all of this, the white, male zoomers have it so much worse than my generation. They are absolutely screwed. The entire system is stacked against them from the top to the bottom, and even the frail opportunities I had won't be open to them. It's no surprise that boys are trying to become professional gamers and are checking out completely from society. They are facing massive levels of systematic discrimination that will crush them. I wish I could start a profitable business, just so I could only hire white, male zoomers, so that I could give them some type of chance in this world. Unfortunately, small businesses have become another dead end since COOFID.
 

DanielH

Pelican
Orthodox
This might be the best reason to get Boomers to admit how bad things are. This IS going to happen. Boomers are going to have their pensions and investments slashed by more than half because they simply are not sustainable. If they admit things are bad and that this will happen, they will go out and work hard to prepare for it.

Boomers are going to have the rug pulled out from underneath them once they are too old and weak to recover from it.
Boomers I know have criticized me for not making certain career decisions that would put me in positions with pensions. I think it's comical that they take for granted that a) the country will be around when I retire b) the currency will be worth anything if the country still exists c) the pensions are not canceled by some austerity measure if a) and b) don't happen.
I met a few years ago with a boomer lawyer He's a multi-millionaire and made the vast majority of his money with oil and gas stock options during the boom. He's still practicing in his 70s. I asked if he was willing to train me for free, and he told me he's not interested because it's too much work. He told me to just learn it all myself and figure it out.

He was raised Catholic, but told me that he doesn't believe in fairly tales anymore. He has three children and cannot figure out why they are so militantly socialist. He holds your typical boomer fiscally conservative views, but is also pro immigration and anti-religion.

He was the complete and absolute encapsulation of the boomer spirit. White boomers have 0 loyalty to their race, religion, or their heritage. They are not interested at all in training and developing the next generation of white men, even though their own wealth was made of the backs from their white parents. They have completely abandoned Christianity and traditional values. They are not willing to fight or suffer even a little despite having the vast majority of wealth and power of any generation. They still praise immigration. They still give the same tired, useless advice that will destroy a young man. They don't understand even the most basic ideas of what has happened and what will happen.

Despite all of this, they have such a staggering amount of confidence in themselves. I lost count of the amount of boomer lawyers that I met who only cared about their status and their "macho" persona, but had their assistants do all the work because they could barely operate a computer. They constantly talk about working hard and putting in the hours, but they gladly take off the afternoon to golf at private country clubs.
It disgusts me how "conservative" boomers often prefer immigrants to their own blood. They see in those immigrants the work ethic they purportedly have/had but don't question why their children don't have that ethic. Devon Stack did a good breakdown of this phenomenon in the movie "Gran Torino."
 
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Grow Bag

Kingfisher
I don't believe anyone here is generational scapegoating, not in the least. They are simply asking the Boomers now, in the year 2021, to admit things are very bad and their "wisdom" of work harder, save more money, isn't going to cut it. We are asking them to fully admit that things are very bad and that young people are not "lazy" but instead have no reward for hard work.
OK, then I'm in agreement, to a degree. I, too, get frustrated with those who are old enough to know better. The thing is people simply don't. Beliefs, programming, it all gets ossified and pride/fear prevents any recalibration. Wisdom is in short supply in most demographics.
 

Elipe

Pelican
The WHINGING OH POOR ME PITY PARTY IN THIS THREAD IS BEYOND EPIC.

Serve 6 years on a boat similar to my Avatar and get back to me NOT!

Attitude determines Altitude
"Pull yourselves up by the bootstraps," the Boomer boomered, while pulling up the ladder that his parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, and so on forth left behind for him to climb.

Do enough people watch 40+ year old men play video games to make this a sustainable career? Or is this a revenue stream like Only Fans with a limited shelf life? What does a 40+ year old stripper/video game streamer do after they age out?
If you can figure out some sort of gimmick, I think you can keep doing it. One such streamer I know of is close to my age and has middle-level popularity, he makes an average of $6.5k a month. (Granted, about $1 - 2k in the warmer months and then gigantic amounts in the winter months.)

He makes enough to support a decent life with a woman. A lonely kid in their parents' basement would turn that into easy disposable income.
 
OK, then I'm in agreement, to a degree. I, too, get frustrated with those who are old enough to know better. The thing is people simply don't. Beliefs, programming, it all gets ossified and pride/fear prevents any recalibration. Wisdom is in short supply in most demographics.
The blame falls on the generations before the Boomers. If you really study history, the modern era of the disgusting west really hit it off in 1965. Most boomers were at best high schoolers or even junior high students in 1965.

I don't blame the Boomers. I just ask them to stop repeating failed Fox News talking points and understand that their children and grandchildren have a very bad future ahead of them. No matter how "hard" they work.
 
The blame falls on the generations before the Boomers. If you really study history, the modern era of the disgusting west really hit it off in 1965. Most boomers were at best high schoolers or even junior high students in 1965.

I don't blame the Boomers. I just ask them to stop repeating failed Fox News talking points and understand that their children and grandchildren have a very bad future ahead of them. No matter how "hard" they work.
You'd be talking about their parents, The Greatest Generation.
 

Grow Bag

Kingfisher
The blame falls on the generations before the Boomers. If you really study history, the modern era of the disgusting west really hit it off in 1965. Most boomers were at best high schoolers or even junior high students in 1965.

I don't blame the Boomers. I just ask them to stop repeating failed Fox News talking points and understand that their children and grandchildren have a very bad future ahead of them. No matter how "hard" they work.
Every generation gets suckered. One lot for war, the other for the culture war.
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kel

Ostrich
15:47 for the most even-handed summary of boomers, IMO, you can get coming from a place of generational resentment.


I do my best to not talk about "The Boomers", as I know individual schmoes can't be held responsible for the actions of a generation (one that was operating within a greater context, too, it must be noted). I don't see myself in a lot of the millennial stereotypes, for instance. And I love many boomers, such as my parents, despite their flaws. Especially as they age, I tend to see them mostly as just infantalized and naive, which is not a great view of someone, but is a lot more generous than some of the venom spit at them.
 

berserker2001

Robin
Orthodox
Also important to note that generally no one here is making personal attacks on Boomer age people, rather we are critiquing the generation on the whole... Boomers did fall into the same trap of fighting rich man's wars that preceding generations did, so that is not really a distinguishing factor one way or another and thus the conversation shouldn't really get bogged down in war conversation.

However the Boomers allowed many other American institutions to decay during their time - Christianity, education, blue-collar work, nuclear family values, masculinity, the presidency and government overall, morality in pop culture, corporate market share and death of small business, reliance on technology... Some of these decays started before Boomers but really hit their stride and took a permanent foothold during the Boomer era, leaving the results for the following generations. That's the argument. And Boomer pride keeps them from admitting any wrongs, almost to a man.

The argument about Generational Scapegoating.... I mean to say that all these American institutions rapidly accelerated their decay during a certain 2-3 decade time period (80's, 90's, 2000's when Boomer's were in their prime), what else would you rather call it? Seems like "Boomer" is a useful term for this era of people, otherwise we're playing around with semantics, no? All generations have their faults, yes, but we are living squarely in an era where Boomer faults surround us, and hence the topic of this thread.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Boomers I know have criticized me for not making certain career decisions that would put me in positions with pensions. I think it's comical that they take for granted that a) the country will be around when I retire b) the currency will be worth anything if the country still exists c) the pensions are not canceled by some austerity measure if a) and b) don't happen.

It disgusts me how "conservative" boomers often prefer immigrants to their own blood. They see in those immigrants the work ethic they purportedly have/had but don't question why their children don't have that ethic. Devon Stack did a good breakdown of this phenomenon in the movie "Gran Torino."

Is this the video you're mentioning here?

 
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