The Boomer Question

Lawrence87

Sparrow
Orthodox
I don't really understand all this cross generational antagonism. Every generation gets handed a plate full of crud by the previous generation. That's partially what ancestral sin means, that we are affected by the misguided decisions and actions of previous generations. I don't really see what whining about it achieves. It's very similar to those who whine that the government is the reason their life isn't going as well as it might. Whining is childish, it's better to be proactive and make the best of the hand you are dealt.
 
Now that I have young toddlers I'm much less blaming of the boomers, our dads, for the world's woes... What exactly were they supposed to do to stop the march of degeneracy, spending and lies that overtook government, business and the media from on high?

20-30 years from now when my kids are impoverished young adults and under crushing techno tyranny (I pray they are not) which will be pinpointed to the 2021 covid lockdown, what am I gonna say?

Gee son, I mean I went to the grocery store without my mask on most of the time, and I didn't get my Vax right away (but probably succumbed), and once I told your stupid liberal uncle (who's now a beloved politician) "well that doesn't sound very tolerant" when he said that he doesn't care if all anti vaxxers die.

I do hope my kids won't blame me for this some day...
You can start by not taking the vaccine.

As for boomers, it is not their undeserved affluence that irks me - I could care less. It is instead their myopic worldview, Messiah complex and most of all the insufferable condescence towards anyone questioning their infallible Boomer-wisdom (mainly talking points from the MSM).

I suppose liking Boomers has now become anti-mainstream and therefore a favorable position of the contrarians on this board?
 
I suppose liking Boomers has now become anti-mainstream and therefore a favorable position of the contrarians on this board?
That is true, I actually started to feel the need to defend boomers. Now that you pointed that out, I am confused. The boomer question is more complicated than I thought. Boomers will not divide us.

I see boomers as victims and therefore I am hesitant to bash them although they freak me out. A boomer is like an autistic kid: it makes you insane and won't listen, but you don't want to scream at it. Aren't boomers autistic towards anything outside the boomer realm of reality?
 
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Caduceus

Pelican
Cross posting my own text this from another thread as it seems relevant to put it here:


A lot of boomer "knowledge" that was passed on to me was either useless, very dumb, totally incorrect, or in the worst cases...actually dangerous. I'm not just talking about parents, but also boomer teachers in school, boomer relatives, and boomer friends.

Obviously not all boomer "knowledge" is garbage, but A LOT of it unfortunately is.

The 2 generations before boomers, the "silent generation" and the "great generation" were a lot more street smart and gave better advice. I luckily got to know a lot of these elders (before many of them died) when I was younger, and they seemed really a lot more clever than their own children and grandchildren, despite coming from more simple times with less access to general information.

I also agree that the internet has really been a enormous blessing for "Generation X" and the generations that have come later in terms of finding accurate, practical and better "knowledge." However, with the internet you still need a critical mind to sort of lies from truth, and a lot of willpower to stay away from many stupid distractions that are on there. But for those with a keen shrewd mind who can stay focused, the internet has become the most amazing library of knowledge ever created by man.
 
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Stadtaffe

Woodpecker
Orthodox
Gold Member
Cross-posting here:
I think there's a particular and very pronounced characteristic among boomers.. Perhaps the amount of "normie" vs "free thinkers" is biological, but boomers put a certain dogmatic faith in the legitimacy of the establishment. And thus assume there are legitimate and redeeming motives behind even the most gratuitous clown world propaganda.

What this translates to, is that certain dissident beliefs or unpopular truths are a bridge too far for most boomers.

I have a boomer coworker, a "dont tread on me" type who seems racially aware and is always finding a reason to remove his mask. But talking to him, he clearly believes that there is a virus, and if you catch it its a really big deal. The idea that the whole thing could be a lie doesn't even register.

My father has scientific training and experience handling deadly chemicals, but I could never have a discussion with him about "wooden doors".
certain dissident beliefs or unpopular truths are a bridge too far for most boomers

That exact phrase really rang in my head and reminds me of a certain boomer who had a very negative impact on my life. They are stuck in fifties and can't imagine that the model of life back then could not be a perfect fit for everyone.
 

02Hero

Pigeon
I don't really understand all this cross generational antagonism. Every generation gets handed a plate full of crud by the previous generation. That's partially what ancestral sin means, that we are affected by the misguided decisions and actions of previous generations. I don't really see what whining about it achieves. It's very similar to those who whine that the government is the reason their life isn't going as well as it might. Whining is childish, it's better to be proactive and make the best of the hand you are dealt.

Exactly. It is the same as people who forever hate their parents. There is a thought experiment which says that you/your soul chose your parents to be born to. It is easy to hate on people. They grew up in a certain environment. So did we. It shapes you. Just look at this COVID BS. Most people don't even think what they do. I can guarantee next generations will critique boomers, generation X, milennials and generation Z for how they dealt with current state of affairs.
 

JohnQThomas

Woodpecker
Boomers born from 1946 to 1964 were the largest cohort to be drafted and forced to serve in Vietnam and over 50,000 never made it home - This war is vilified by history revisionists but was the first shot across the bow of both the Soviet Communists and the Chinese Freaking Red Communists backing the Viet Cong - then the Boomers were the ones who fought and WON the cold war (Dissolution of the Soviet Union, Fall of the Berlin Wall, Transformation of CFRCs into capitalism, reconstruction of Germany, Japan, and South Korea into innovative Economic powers). The BOOMERS are largely responsible for the safe prosperous USA and EU you all live in today yet many radical left Millenials are calling for Open Borders and massive low IQ gimmegrant invasions of both the USA and EU/UK - go figure.

Anyone who espouses BOOMER hatred should first look into a large mirror at their own reflection.
The American draft ended in 1973. No “Boomer” born after 1952 was actually drafted. (If indeed that younger cohort can even be called “Boomers”. At least in the psychological sense, those born after 1952 or 1955 really are a different bunch. They didn’t even have to worry about the draft.
 

JohnQThomas

Woodpecker
Cross-posting here:

certain dissident beliefs or unpopular truths are a bridge too far for most boomers

That exact phrase really rang in my head and reminds me of a certain boomer who had a very negative impact on my life. They are stuck in fifties and can't imagine that the model of life back then could not be a perfect fit for everyone.
Some people—of all generations—prefer to live in the past.
 

JohnQThomas

Woodpecker
My main gripe with the boomers is how financially irresponsible they have been. Unlike their parents, they rejected frugality and lived off credit (they were the first credit card generation). Because they have nothing saved up for retirement, many boomers that have good paying jobs choose to work well into their 70's and 80's, longer than previous generations. I remember reading an article a few years ago that stated that one of the reasons that there are fewer good paying jobs now for college graduates is because of people not retiring. The boomers are clogging up the pipeline.
Hey, if they need money and are still able to work—kudos to them for continuing to work rather than merely collecting benefits. (Even if they have earned those benefits.) At least they’re still paying into the system rather than becoming net “takers” any sooner than they have to.
 

JohnQThomas

Woodpecker
I can read, but you cannot perform simple mathematics. I even bold-faced the language so that a semi-retarded autistic simpleton could see the connection, but apparently you did not:



That demographic cohort was born beginning in "the early 1900s" and thus began voting around 1918-1920 (not after World War or II or later, as you claim), which means that they voted for FDR, the New Deal, and the beginning of institutionalized government socialism -- which was my original point.
Wasn’t the voting age 21 then?
So how could 18-20 year olds have voted in the early 1920s?
 

JohnQThomas

Woodpecker
That the average middle class Canadian senior seems to have no problem consuming a $ 1/4 million worth of surgery in the last few years of their life, more than they paid in taxes their whole career, shows either complete lack of financial understanding, or complete lack of empathy for their children.

I've got to think that if someone was 80 and dying with 1/4M left in the bank, that most would choose to die and let it go to the kids, instead of to doctors... But when it's taxpayer money? Let's go hog wild.
But that begs the question: why is healthcare so expensive? (Whether government or the individual pays, isn’t there a ridiculous amount of markup?)
 

JohnQThomas

Woodpecker
Cross posting my own text this from another thread as it seems relevant to put it here:


A lot of boomer "knowledge" that was passed on to me was either useless, very dumb, totally incorrect, or in the worst cases...actually dangerous. I'm not just talking about parents, but also boomer teachers in school, boomer relatives, and boomer friends.

Obviously not all boomer "knowledge" is garbage, but A LOT of it unfortunately is.

The 2 generations before boomers, the "silent generation" and the "great generation" were a lot more street smart and gave better advice. I luckily got to know a lot of these elders (before many of them died) when I was younger, and they seemed really a lot more clever than their own children and grandchildren, despite coming from more simple times with less access to general information.

I also agree that the internet has really been a enormous blessing for "Generation X" and the generations that have come later in terms of finding accurate, practical and better "knowledge." However, with the internet you still need a critical mind to sort of lies from truth, and a lot of willpower to stay away from many stupid distractions that are on there. But for those with a keen shrewd mind who can stay focused, the internet has become the most amazing library of knowledge ever created by man.
Of course, people of all generations (including Boomers) are free to peruse the internet—and to post on it.
 

Carolus

Pigeon
Cross posting my own text this from another thread as it seems relevant to put it here:


A lot of boomer "knowledge" that was passed on to me was either useless, very dumb, totally incorrect, or in the worst cases...actually dangerous. I'm not just talking about parents, but also boomer teachers in school, boomer relatives, and boomer friends.

Obviously not all boomer "knowledge" is garbage, but A LOT of it unfortunately is.

The 2 generations before boomers, the "silent generation" and the "great generation" were a lot more street smart and gave better advice. I luckily got to know a lot of these elders (before many of them died) when I was younger, and they seemed really a lot more clever than their own children and grandchildren, despite coming from more simple times with less access to general information.

I also agree that the internet has really been a enormous blessing for "Generation X" and the generations that have come later in terms of finding accurate, practical and better "knowledge." However, with the internet you still need a critical mind to sort of lies from truth, and a lot of willpower to stay away from many stupid distractions that are on there. But for those with a keen shrewd mind who can stay focused, the internet has become the most amazing library of knowledge ever created by man.
In my early 20s I spent a lot of time at a retirement home filled with people from the silent generation (I was not an employee). Their life advice was given infrequently and was quality. They were interesting to talk to, knowledgable, listened when others were talking, didn't interrupt, and didn't always talk about themselves. They also didn't talk down to me and treated me like an adult. I had a great time with them and it was gratifying experience I feel blessed to have had.

I actively avoid being within earshot of groups of boomers. I've done so long before I was even aware of the problems with them, they're just bad company and I can't stand all the comically bad life advice.
 

RedLagoon

Chicken
Orthodox Inquirer
Now that I have young toddlers I'm much less blaming of the boomers, our dads, for the world's woes... What exactly were they supposed to do to stop the march of degeneracy, spending and lies that overtook government, business and the media from on high?

20-30 years from now when my kids are impoverished young adults and under crushing techno tyranny (I pray they are not) which will be pinpointed to the 2021 covid lockdown, what am I gonna say?

Gee son, I mean I went to the grocery store without my mask on most of the time, and I didn't get my Vax right away (but probably succumbed), and once I told your stupid liberal uncle (who's now a beloved politician) "well that doesn't sound very tolerant" when he said that he doesn't care if all anti vaxxers die.

I do hope my kids won't blame me for this some day...

I also have a few toddlers and they made me realise the boomers are even worse than depicted.

It's already in this thread but I'm not getting any tax benefits as I'm not vaccinating my kids and that's only one slight issue. I have better things to do than to post here but even my own boomer parents are suggesting that I and my now pregnant wife to take the clot shot.


And when it gets "approved" my little boys.

F the boomers.
 

Serge Korol

Pigeon
Orthodox
All this anti-boomer talk quite frankly is more offensive than racism, every generation blames the parent for his/her own downfall when All we did was the best we could with you impertinent offspring. Get a life. One day you will be the boomer and this judgement will come back on you tenfold.
 
All this anti-boomer talk quite frankly is more offensive than racism, every generation blames the parent for his/her own downfall when All we did was the best we could with you impertinent offspring. Get a life. One day you will be the boomer and this judgement will come back on you tenfold.

Except I'm involved in the lives of my children and instead of blowing every dime I have on toys we've made sure they'll be provided for long after my wife and I are gone.

Oh yeah, I also sacrifice for them while instilling in them good values. No one will cry when the last Boomer dies.
 

El Draque

Woodpecker
Orthodox
Boomers were really the first generation to undergo major social engineering, by the likes of Tavistock, Frankfurt school, (((popular music and entertainment))) and such forth.

They literally did 'never have it so good', as a British PM famously remarked of society in the early 60s, yet behind the scenes the mother of all psy-ops (the 1960s counter culture, the wrecking ball that set the place for so much that is bad ever since) was being implemented.

I dont think anywhere near adequate focus is placed on the forces behind it all, and what they did.

Hard to see Boomers as much beyond over privileged (socially at least) victims really.
 

02Hero

Pigeon
All this anti-boomer talk quite frankly is more offensive than racism, every generation blames the parent for his/her own downfall when All we did was the best we could with you impertinent offspring. Get a life. One day you will be the boomer and this judgement will come back on you tenfold.

I get your point but the way you word it is ridiculous. More offensive than racism, almost sounds like a troll. Are you a boomer? If so, this is why people do not react well to your points.

I find todays society worse in a lot of ways than what boomers created. Boomers are hedonists pretty much. To keep it very simple. We are past the society that they created. So no reason to blame them anymore.

Now we get some pseudoconservative LARP prude nonsense which is so far from reality it is not even funny. I don't think boomers are to blame as it is the younger generations being the most prude. Society was way wilder in the past - in different ways maybe but people have become prudes. With that also more narcissistic, prideful, delusional/psychotic.

You cannot say anything truthful. Everybody's feelings is hurt too quickly. It is also why you cannot have discussions and instead get cancel culture (shaming) and other garbage. It is a female modus operandi.
 

El Draque

Woodpecker
Orthodox
I get your point but the way you word it is ridiculous. More offensive than racism, almost sounds like a troll. Are you a boomer? If so, this is why people do not react well to your points.

I find todays society worse in a lot of ways than what boomers created. Boomers are hedonists pretty much. To keep it very simple. We are past the society that they created. So no reason to blame them anymore.

Now we get some pseudoconservative LARP prude nonsense which is so far from reality it is not even funny. I don't think boomers are to blame as it is the younger generations being the most prude. Society was way wilder in the past - in different ways maybe but people have become prudes. With that also more narcissistic, prideful, delusional/psychotic.

You cannot say anything truthful. Everybody's feelings is hurt too quickly. It is also why you cannot have discussions and instead get cancel culture (shaming) and other garbage. It is a female modus operandi.


The internet has warped social interraction beyond all measure & massively inflated narcissism. How did people LARP pre internet? Serious question, as really i dont think it really existed, not in remotely the same way. As people's interractions and judgements of each other came from face to face, where fake behaviour and inconsistencies are far harder to hide than online.

Boomers were already into old age by the time the modern internet took shape, in a sense they're the least affected by it. My gen (x) were really the last that had any sort of youth and young adulthood without it, in a sense i think we're diet-boomers.

The Z's, who've only ever known a time of smartphones, broadbands ipads etc, are wrecked by it. I'm convinced they are the least joyfull generation of all time.

If i could have one wish, it would be the entire internet and modern communication tech all just disappear. It's impossible for the Elites to maintain their grip without it all.

Try the last 18 months back in 1994, all hell would've broken loose. You cant lock people up in houses for days and weeks on end, if all they've got is 4 channels on the tv, maybe a SEGA Megadrive, and a few board games.

Give them endless superficial distraction and novelty by tech platforms, designed by social engineers, working on behalf of an agenda 99% of the people will never know, they'll accept any old crap.
 

Elipe

Pelican
All this anti-boomer talk quite frankly is more offensive than racism, every generation blames the parent for his/her own downfall when All we did was the best we could with you impertinent offspring. Get a life. One day you will be the boomer and this judgement will come back on you tenfold.
There is statistical proof though that our generation is actively repudiating the errors of the boomers' ways. For example, abortion among us is lower than it was during peak boomer fertility years. More children are born to two-parent households than in the boomer days. Divorce is the lowest it's been in 50 years. And while crazy parents are snipping off their sons' genitals for playing with Barbie dolls, at least they're doing something boomers did only once in a blue moon: paying attention to their children.

And now, when WE take care of OUR kids and try to protect them from the world trying to inject poison into their bodies, you boomers go and:
even my own boomer parents are suggesting that I and my now pregnant wife to take the clot shot.

And when it gets "approved" my little boys.
scream bloody murder about it because the funny gay black man on TV thrusting his crotch at the camera sang a bizarre nursery rhyme about how your grandchildren need to be held down and stabbed with the Pfizer poison so that you can live ten seconds longer.
 
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