The Boomer Question

The Boomer Question is very real and I'm afraid they are not quite finished.

The first half of the boomer career was spent looting and burning, the second half was spent holding up the walls until they could safely escape.

The final act is abandoning their collapsing systems, blaming it on their children, and fortifying their own pleasure communities far away from the rubble.
 

El Draque

Woodpecker
Orthodox
It's what comes after the Boomers die off people should worry about.

With their demographical glut, will go a large chunk of the conservative right leaning voter base, and population.

Its easy to fall into the trap where people characterise Boomers as all being wannabe Ken Keseys or Timothy Learys, fact is the vast majority have views that are way right of the average Zoomer or Millenial.

In UK, when they start to go, combined with the high birth-rate of foreigners, the demographics will fall off a cliff.

You won't know what you've got til it's gone.
 
All this anti-boomer talk quite frankly is more offensive than racism, every generation blames the parent for his/her own downfall when All we did was the best we could with you impertinent offspring. Get a life. One day you will be the boomer and this judgement will come back on you tenfold.
Another reason Boomers are deemed insufferable is their complete lack of introspection and self awareness.

Whereas any other person would likely shrug and at least partly agree with certain criticisms regarding his/her demographic, the Boomer gets all uptight and defensive when confronted with even the slightest of criticisms

Really strange.
 

scorpion

Hummingbird
Gold Member
I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how they would have turned out any differently from the average boomer if they had been born in the same time period in the same circumstances. Go on, please tell us how you came out of the womb innately based, thirsting for nothing but righteous living and the traditions of Orthodoxy. Tell us how you would have been wise to the JQ and the deliberate social engineering of the 60s when you grew up with no internet and only three television channels. Tell us how you would have rejected the material abundance and easy living afforded by growing up in the post-war boom years and instead taken a vow of monastic poverty. Tell us exactly how you are so uniquely wise, courageous and pure-hearted that you alone could remain uncorrupted by the world you grew up in, which was the only world you'd ever known, having no other to compare it to.

I'll keep waiting. If you haven't yet realized that engaging in boomer bashing is nothing but indulging the sins of pride, envy and false-righteousness, you have some spiritual maturing to do. You might as well sit around bashing Adam and Eve. "If those fools hadn't eaten the damn apple we wouldn't be in this mess!" It's puerile. The world is fallen, men of all ages have failed in ways unique to their time and place. The common element is sin and the corruption it brings. We are no different than the boomers in this regard and cannot judge them without bringing further condemnation on ourselves. Remain humble and never think yourself more righteous than others, especially those whose temptations and experiences are totally alien to you. Instead thank God that you were blessed to avoid the traps that clearly ensnared those others.
 

Elipe

Pelican
I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how they would have turned out any differently from the average boomer if they had been born in the same time period in the same circumstances. Go on, please tell us how you came out of the womb innately based, thirsting for nothing but righteous living and the traditions of Orthodoxy. Tell us how you would have been wise to the JQ and the deliberate social engineering of the 60s when you grew up with no internet and only three television channels. Tell us how you would have rejected the material abundance and easy living afforded by growing up in the post-war boom years and instead taken a vow of monastic poverty. Tell us exactly how you are so uniquely wise, courageous and pure-hearted that you alone could remain uncorrupted by the world you grew up in, which was the only world you'd ever known, having no other to compare it to.

I'll keep waiting. If you haven't yet realized that engaging in boomer bashing is nothing but indulging the sins of pride, envy and false-righteousness, you have some spiritual maturing to do. You might as well sit around bashing Adam and Eve. "If those fools hadn't eaten the damn apple we wouldn't be in this mess!" It's puerile. The world is fallen, men of all ages have failed in ways unique to their time and place. The common element is sin and the corruption it brings. We are no different than the boomers in this regard and cannot judge them without bringing further condemnation on ourselves. Remain humble and never think yourself more righteous than others, especially those whose temptations and experiences are totally alien to you. Instead thank God that you were blessed to avoid the traps that clearly ensnared those others.
Whataboutism is not an argument. Boomers are still a terrible generation, and playing the "cast the first stone" game is deflection. I'm not here to discuss how much of a perfect boomer I would have been. I'm here to discuss how obstinate and stubborn the boomers are, despite having the same access to information we do today. Nobody is forcing them to plug their fingers into their ears and go la-la I can't hear you. Nobody is forcing them to ban their own children from their homes on account of not wearing a mask.

And for the record, my boomer parents are significantly better than this. My vaccinated CNN-bot boomer parents, despite having many hallmark characteristics of the generation, still nonetheless value family enough that despite standing across the chasm from me in the current political divide and knowing I am unvaccinated, we can still get together in the same room and sit at the same table, ALL unmasked. So even my boomer parents, as hooked on CNN as they are, were able to achieve some sort of escape velocity from the madness that now grips many boomers. There is still hope yet for them. They are the exceptions that condemn the generation.

What you're doing here is akin to black people wagging their fingers at whites whose ancestors immigrated after the Civil War about how evil their ancestors were for enslaving black people.

"I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how they wouldn't have owned slaves if they lived in these times."

It's immaterial to the thread here. I'm not here to debate alternate realities. I'm here to discuss why the boomers were an awful generation and how that affected the lives we now live, and how they remain an awful generation as a whole despite having an out provided to them that more and more of the younger generations are taking. And yes, I'll admit my generation is awful too. But we should try to understand why these generations are awful, and if there is anything we can do to turn things around so that we can have a sane society again.
 

scorpion

Hummingbird
Gold Member
If you admit there are good and bad boomers, what is the point of endlessly bashing the entire generation? Do you realize how easy it is to paint millennials and Gen Z with such a broad brush, as well? Surely you understand that the vast majority of young people today are in no way based and Godpilled, as you no doubt consider yourself to be. The average Gen Z male is more likely to cut his own dick off than convert to Orthodoxy. Does this mean the entire generation should be written off at once? There is simply nothing productive in this endless boomer bashing. Learn from their mistakes, sure. Learn from everyone's mistakes. But then tend to your own garden. And remember that humility and love are the traits that should define a Christian, not judgment and self-righteousness. The boomers are naught but another link in a long chain of fallen sinners.
 

Caduceus

Pelican
I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how they would have turned out any differently from the average boomer if they had been born in the same time period in the same circumstances.

The issue here is not if we would have done it differently, but the fact that many of us in the last 10 years have taken the various red pills and became a lot smarter and improved ourselves. So even if we have made mistakes in our younger years, we strive not to keep making them in middle and old age.

Boomers on the other hand, just continue acting with the same mindset and opinions as when they were age 20, 35 or 50.
There is never any change of life outlook, introspection, modesty, hindsight, or revaluation of their past mistakes.
For instance, I NEVER hear boomers saying things like this to younger generations:

"We were duped as teenagers and adults....be a lot more critical of where you get your information."
"After Vietnam, the USA should never enter another foreign war and I will make sure my kids learn this"
"In hindsight, feminism was a mistake which had mostly negative consequences for society"
"Divorce should be made more difficult. Broken families ruin society"
"The salary of 1 man is not enough anymore today to provide a house and living for a family anymore...this is wrong and needs to be changed."
"Taking drugs did nothing good to me. Avoid them if you can."
"I should have spent more time with my kids."


I could go on and on, but you get the idea.
Boomers have zero self awareness, and even to this day do not acknowledge any of their mistakes even in old age where you are supposed to be more wise and retrospective. You would think that at least in old age they would give better advice...but nope.

Of course not all boomers are like this....but the majority of them come under this umbrella.
 
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Elipe

Pelican
If you admit there are good and bad boomers
Not in equal proportions. The good ones are the exceptions that prove the rule.
Surely you understand that the vast majority of young people today are in no way based and Godpilled, as you no doubt consider yourself to be.
I'm not so much asking for people to be "based and Godpilled" as I am just asking for people to be sane, rational, and at a minimum performing at a minimal, baseline level of self-interest. I'm not asking for a perfect generation, I'm asking for people to meet a pretty average intellectual standard that used to be considered borderline retarded.

If you were a bodybuilder criticizing people for not even being able to lift 50 pounds, you have every right to do so, because that's really not a high bar at all, and it would be extremely concerning if there was a generation that was collectively incapable of lifting 50 or more pounds. The bodybuilder isn't asking for a generation of bodybuilders that punch at his weight, he's just asking for a generation that is at least like 99.99999999% of other generations in history.

I'm not berating people for not being Superman. I'm not berating them for not being world-class heavyweights. I'm not berating them for failing to live up to Jesus Christ's perfect standards. The average fifth grader in the '20s and '30s were vastly more intelligent than the boomers are now, in their 60s and 70s, with whole lifetimes of accumulated knowledge, experience, and wisdom.

This thread is about pointing out how, unlike their parents, the boomers couldn't lift that metaphorical 50-pound weight, and they got that way because they refused to listen to their parents. And then when their own children try to show them how to lift the weight, the boomer just plugs his ears, goes "Lalalalala I can't hear you, stupid kid! Your mother should have aborted you, and our lives would have been easier."

I lifted that weight. My parents lifted it too. But I see the average boomer post on social media, and the vast majority of them just aren't even trying.

And this thread is a boomer thread, not a millennial or Z thread. If you want to bash those generations, take it to a new thread.
 

Thomas More

Hummingbird
What did you feel like they didn't get? Genuinely curious btw, not a loaded question
My post was tongue in cheek. I was born at the end of the baby boom, and do not identify with boomers who came of age around the time I was born.

I did feel the generation gap, where adults seemed stuffy and square, although those words were already passe when I was a teenager.

To the extent that the boomers felt a generation gap with older generations, I think it is funny how the "ok boomer" generation is now playing the generation gap card.
 
My post was tongue in cheek. I was born at the end of the baby boom, and do not identify with boomers who came of age around the time I was born.

I did feel the generation gap, where adults seemed stuffy and square, although those words were already passe when I was a teenager.

To the extent that the boomers felt a generation gap with older generations, I think it is funny how the "ok boomer" generation is now playing the generation gap card.
I am old enough to remember some world war 2 generation people in church from early childhood. To me they always seemed very kind and wise. Looking back how do you view them now?
 
I think a lot of the anger at Boomers is the interesting fact that the Boomers will go down as the first generation in history to grow older but not necessarily wiser. It is in our human biology to look up to our elders. They have been there, and done that. It is how humans are hardwired. And we look to the Boomers and they largely have nothing to share. What they did have to share, at least their wealth, many either already squandered it or are currently squandering it while younger generations are desperate and pleading for help.

Boomers for the most part are very good people, they are just spoiled and naive about the real world. All they had to do was go to school, pick out a job, show up every day, and after 40 years if they didn't throw their money away they would be multi-millionaires and living the American dream. This simply is not true for 95%+ of Gen X and younger and it is frustrating for many to get Boomer "advice" to just work hard.

Any Boomer that wants to join the ranks of the dissident right would be gladly welcomed. And as long as they don't repeat Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly empty rhetoric they will fit right in. Most of the Boomers do have a good work ethic and a good moral sense of fair and unfair. They just don't know how to apply it to a post 1965 western world in which might makes right and being good and fair counts for little to nothing these days.

So young people are both consciously and subconsciously, at a primitive level, frustrated with Boomers.
 

Koolking

Sparrow
During the 1930s communism was getting a bit popular with the regular folks who had just endured the Great Depression. Roosevelt felt that policies needed to be implemented to turn that tide and not become another Soviet Union. Social Security was born and other social programs were created to keep the little people in line with capitalism. This continued through the early 90s until the Soviet Union fell apart. The US government no longer felt much need to keep our regular folks happy and shipped a lot of our jobs overseas. The US government will do what it takes to stay in power and no more than that. They no longer fear us, they see us as weak and deplorable and not a threat to their globohomo agenda. I don't care if you're 15, 30, 45, 60, or 75 years old - we all live under a system designed to keep us just barely happy and always struggling to get by. The one good reason some boomers are rich is because of home ownership, an idea these globohomo folks would like to do away with.

On a less serious note, I demand anyone who is not a "boomer" to cease using that term. Only we "boomers" are allowed to use it. Please call us anything else you want but not that one specific title. Thanks. I'm joking of course.
 
During the 1930s communism was getting a bit popular with the regular folks who had just endured the Great Depression. Roosevelt felt that policies needed to be implemented to turn that tide and not become another Soviet Union. Social Security was born and other social programs were created to keep the little people in line with capitalism. This continued through the early 90s until the Soviet Union fell apart. The US government no longer felt much need to keep our regular folks happy and shipped a lot of our jobs overseas. The US government will do what it takes to stay in power and no more than that. They no longer fear us, they see us as weak and deplorable and not a threat to their globohomo agenda. I don't care if you're 15, 30, 45, 60, or 75 years old - we all live under a system designed to keep us just barely happy and always struggling to get by. The one good reason some boomers are rich is because of home ownership, an idea these globohomo folks would like to do away with.

On a less serious note, I demand anyone who is not a "boomer" to cease using that term. Only we "boomers" are allowed to use it. Please call us anything else you want but not that one specific title. Thanks. I'm joking of course.

I actually listened to a great podcast involving FDR and The New Deal. It wasn't pushed to avoid communism. In fact FDR and many of his cabinet supported "Uncle Joe" Stalin. It was due to the great depression becoming a nightmare in the USA while Germany was having record economic success under National Socialism and people here were starting to ask about how to get the same policies.

So to turn this tide away from fascism, which was growing in popularity as it was much more successful fighting the great depression than capitalism was, they implemented some national socialist (if you will) policies, such as the WPA which got frustrated young men employed before they could be persuaded to push further right (fascism) in the USA.
 
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