The Boomer Question

Elipe

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So, the handful of oligarchs who control the economy and have allowed the borders to be open are a reason to condemn an entire generation?

The situations you speak of have taken place over the span of a few generations. Why is only one singled out for blame?
His point is that boomers still gloat about the things that are now impossible for people that are now the age the boomers were at when they did the things they gloat about, like buying a house at a price that was 10% of their salary starting right out of high school. And those selfsame gloaters gloating about how their house's price is now worth 500% to 700% of the average salary like it's because they're such good housekeepers and not because of runaway inflation.
 

Trewolla

 
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The boomers continued responses here and the inability to even make an attempt to understand our point of view
I understand your point of view very well. I just refuse to accept the blame for the fact that your generation happened to be born after the "powers that be" plunged America into decline.

A generation isn't what caused the decline of America.

Essentially, the wealth of America is being harvested by the handful of people who have the power to do so. If you can think deeply enough on the matter you will eventually understand where that power comes from. Blaming fellow Americans of a certain age group is ridiculous. They have no more power to do anything about it than you do.
 

Trewolla

 
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His point is that boomers still gloat about the things that are now impossible for people that are now the age the boomers were at when they did the things they gloat about, like buying a house at a price that was 10% of their salary starting right out of high school. And those selfsame gloaters gloating about how their house's price is now worth 500% to 700% of the average salary like it's because they're such good housekeepers and not because of runaway inflation.
I don't see a lot go "gloating". Painting Boomers as a group who sits around and "gloats" is just a disingenuous way to generate hate for a generation.
 

Trewolla

 
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An entire narrative has been constructed for the purpose of throwing all the troubles of the world at the feet of the Boomer generation.

The Boomer generation, like generations before and after, have just been along for the ride. A handful of powerful, evil people are responsible for the troubles that the world is facing.

When every Boomer is dead and buried, the world will still be contending with those powerful, evil people.
 

Trewolla

 
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It's a common enough experience millennials have in interacting with boomers. It's why threads like these tend to attract younger posters remarking on how much they can relate to it.
I think most young people who participate in the Boomer hate are just repeating the narrative that's been created and handed to them--in much the same manner that the narratives that all leftists parrot have been constructed for them.

Envy plays a big part in both the leftist narratives and the Boomer hate narrative.
 

Trewolla

 
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Boomers always blame someone or something else for any problem.
No taking responsibility for anything....not even a simple admission of "yes, we messed up this or that certain thing. Sorry."
Heck, at this late stage, I'd even take a simple apology for the awful life advice they gave....but not even that is forthcoming.
,...and everybody except the Boomers blame the Boomers instead of taking any personal responsibility.

As I said before, blaming the Boomers for not taking any blame while blaming the boomers for your own shortcomings is the Mt Everest of hypocrisy.

It laughable, really.
 

Trewolla

 
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The replies of almost every boomer in this thread from page 1 onwards perfectly illustrates all our points and grievances.
That statement is also part of the established "Boomer blame" narrative. It's all gotten very familiar.

The "everything you say proves my point" element of the narrative.
 

Trewolla

 
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Basically, everyone is being trained to point their finger at a generation instead of pointing it at the *real* source of the problem.

It's another example of the propaganda that's being pushed out there today.
 
I understand your point of view very well. I just refuse to accept the blame for the fact that your generation happened to be born after the "powers that be" plunged America into decline.

A generation isn't what caused the decline of America.

Essentially, the wealth of America is being harvested by the handful of people who have the power to do so. If you can think deeply enough on the matter you will eventually understand where that power comes from. Blaming fellow Americans of a certain age group is ridiculous. They have no more power to do anything about it than you do.
Every generation has had gatekeepers and every generation has to play the hand they are dealt.

I associate America’s plunge with the Boomers because the most foolish plays have been made by leaders from that generation once they started taking positions of power, which is pretty much from the 90’s onwards. And this despite being dealt a great hand which was pretty much their game to lose. To name a few- gutting the manufacturing base and outsourcing it overseas, changing student debt laws, the war on terror, 2008 crash, bailouts, QE… the national deficit and the money printing has gone exponential under the Boomer‘s watch.

At least the WW2 generation had the sense to keep the deficit relatively in check because they had lived through that war and the depression.

I understand your point that one generation isn’t alone to blame. The country has been creeping towards this point for much longer than that, but it did begin to tremendously misstep in a much more irreversible, accelerated way once Boomers got into power.
 

Elipe

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Basically, everyone is being trained to point their finger at a generation instead of pointing it at the *real* source of the problem.

It's another example of the propaganda that's being pushed out there today.
Don't get me wrong, there absolutely is a satanic conspiracy.

But don't hide behind conspiracy theories. Not everything you dislike is a conspiracy. Like I said, it's a common enough direct, firsthand experience on the part of many millennials who have been exposed to their boomer relatives. This isn't brainwashing millennials to hate boomers because of some intangible, invisible attribute like racial original sin (white privilege) or being born comfortable with what's between your legs (cis-hetero-normativeness or whatever they call it). The Boomer Question is a very much real one, driven by direct observation.

It's not a bunch of distant CEOs and politicians with no relation to people that the Boomer Question is about. It's about Uncle Boomer who shows up at the family Thanksgiving gathering. The pattern plays out, and there are many Uncle Boomers and Dad Boomers and Mom Boomers who millennials can relate with each other over. Those are people that millennials see with their own eyeballs and hear with their own ears. People that share a common denial of current reality with regard to economics and culture, which frustrates millennials to no end because they feel like their own parents don't understand them or why they're struggling so much to follow in their parents' footsteps.
 

Trewolla

 
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Every generation has had gatekeepers and every generation has to play the hand they are dealt.

I associate America’s plunge with the Boomers because the most foolish plays have been made by leaders from that generation once they started taking positions of power, which is pretty much from the 90’s onwards. And this despite being dealt a great hand which was pretty much their game to lose. To name a few- gutting the manufacturing base and outsourcing it overseas, changing student debt laws, the war on terror, 2008 crash, bailouts, QE… the national deficit and the money printing has gone exponential under the Boomer‘s watch.

At least the WW2 generation had the sense to keep the deficit relatively in check because they had lived through that war and the depression.

I understand your point that one generation isn’t alone to blame. The country has been creeping towards this point for much longer than that, but it did begin to tremendously misstep in a much more irreversible, accelerated way once Boomers got into power.
Yes, but you're alluding to the power brokers who were in charge "during" the Boomer generation. Those elements were in power before the Boomer generation and they're in power today.

The "Boomer blame" narrative is much more personal. It attacks individual members of the Boomer generation. Societal changes took place during the 60s. The individual members of the Boomer generation had about as much to do with them as the Millennials have to do with the societal changes taking place today.

Antifa and BLM activism is being orchestrated by the same power broker element which orchestrated the activism of the 60s.

Again--at its root its Satanic.

20 years ago I wouldn't have seen nor believed in the Satanic influence in society's problems. Today it's "in your face" so flagrantly that I can't believe that everybody doesn't see it.

I guess it's easier to believe that it was all caused by a generation.
 

Trewolla

 
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Don't get me wrong, there absolutely is a satanic conspiracy.

But don't hide behind conspiracy theories. Not everything you dislike is a conspiracy. Like I said, it's a common enough direct, firsthand experience on the part of many millennials who have been exposed to their boomer relatives. This isn't Da Jooz brainwashing millennials to hate boomers because of some intangible, invisible attribute like racial original sin (white privilege) or being born comfortable with what's between your legs (cis-hetero-normativeness or whatever they call it). The Boomer Question is a very much real one, driven by direct observation.

It's not a bunch of distant CEOs and politicians with no relation to people that the Boomer Question is about. It's about Uncle Boomer who shows up at the family Thanksgiving gathering. The pattern plays out, and there are many Uncle Boomers and Dad Boomers and Mom Boomers who millennials can relate with each other over. Those are people that millennials see with their own eyeballs and hear with their own ears. People that share a common denial of current reality with regard to economics and culture, which frustrates millennials to no ends because they feel like their own parents don't understand them or why they're struggling so much to follow in their parents' footsteps.
I haven't used the word "conspiracy" or the term "conspiracy theory"

I said that the evil we're experiencing in America today has a Satanic origin. It's goes much deeper than any conspiracy.
 

Trewolla

 
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Don't get me wrong, there absolutely is a satanic conspiracy.

But don't hide behind conspiracy theories. Not everything you dislike is a conspiracy. Like I said, it's a common enough direct, firsthand experience on the part of many millennials who have been exposed to their boomer relatives. This isn't brainwashing millennials to hate boomers because of some intangible, invisible attribute like racial original sin (white privilege) or being born comfortable with what's between your legs (cis-hetero-normativeness or whatever they call it). The Boomer Question is a very much real one, driven by direct observation.

It's not a bunch of distant CEOs and politicians with no relation to people that the Boomer Question is about. It's about Uncle Boomer who shows up at the family Thanksgiving gathering. The pattern plays out, and there are many Uncle Boomers and Dad Boomers and Mom Boomers who millennials can relate with each other over. Those are people that millennials see with their own eyeballs and hear with their own ears. People that share a common denial of current reality with regard to economics and culture, which frustrates millennials to no end because they feel like their own parents don't understand them or why they're struggling so much to follow in their parents' footsteps.
I didn't have an optimum experience with the generation before me either. They were very big on conscription servitude. We didn't pass that on to Gen X.
 

MartyMcFly

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Other Christian
For those quick to blame boomers, you might want to look at the dates of birth of 'the squad' which are the most radical members of congress. They are all Gen-X and Millennials. Many of the most dangerous politicians that millennials love so much like Biden, Bernie Sanders, and Nancy Pelosi are actually members of the silent generation and I don't hear the silent generation being blamed for things.


Even if the boomers messed up the USA, do you really believe that the younger generations are making basic efforts to change this by embracing proper traditional values? Gen X and the Millennials have enough votes to elect politicians with views similar to pat Buchanan but they don't seem to want to.

We can fairly blame boomers when younger people are voting for better candidates by huge margins but these candidates lose simply because of the boomer vote.


"Overall, 65 percent of voters ages 18 to 24 voted for Biden, as did 54 percent of voters ages 25 to 29"

Note that boomers favored Trump over Biden. Do people really think Trump is a worse president than Biden?


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Note: I am not tagging all Gen-X and Millennials with the same brush. You can see that even on radical college campuses, there are conservative organizations that invite speakers on their campuses and ask reasonable questions and politely listen.

I will blame boomers for making things worse, but will younger generations improve things?
 

Trewolla

 
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I will blame boomers for making things worse, but will younger generations improve things?
But,....but,...it's not the fault of the younger generations. The only generation required to accept responsibility for the condition of the world is the Boomer generation. All subsequent and previous generations get a pass.

Again,...the Mt Everest of hypocrisy.

The truth is, western society has been in decline for quite some time. The first half of the 20th century contained the Great Depression and two world wars. A fairly brief era of prosperity existed in America at the close of WW2. But once it ripened, the power brokers decided to harvest it.

The Boomer generation was fortunate enough to pass through during an era of prosperity, but they neither caused it nor ended it.
 

The Penitent Man

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I love browsing this thread every now and again. It gives me a good laugh to see the back and forth. I’m not all aboard the boomer hate train, but some jokes just write themselves (or boomers write them in their own defense). I stumbled upon the following old article just by typing in “boomer” to an image search. Not sure if it’s satire (it doesn’t appear to be), but it sure belongs in this thread. Enjoy:


Edit: It appears this was written as tongue in cheek comedy, but it’s really not that funny. These people just aren’t serious about anything.
 
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Trewolla

 
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I love browsing this thread every now and again. It gives me a good laugh to see the back and forth. I’m not all aboard the boomer hate train, but some jokes just write themselves (or boomers write them in their own defense). I stumbled upon the following old article just by typing in “boomer” to an image search. Not sure if it’s satire (it doesn’t appear to be), but it sure belongs in this thread. Enjoy:

Considering that the AARP is a blatantly leftist organization, it's easy to believe that an article like that is intended to generate Boomer hate.

The left is all about division--especially as it involves Caucasians--and the Boomer hate movement is extremely divisive and almost exclusively a Caucasian phenomenon.
 
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