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<blockquote data-quote="Rigsby" data-source="post: 1267330" data-attributes="member: 7361"><p>The truth is, divide and conquer is the most successful game ever played.</p><p></p><p>I doubt there will ever be a time it it not used, and the majority of people don't fall for it. Blacks against whites, male vs. female, rich vs. poor and now young vs. old.</p><p></p><p>There is definitely a boomer mind-set, and they definitely deserve scorn as a demographic, but it's wise to remember that most of them weren't 'individually' responsible. Most people will take a bite of the apple if they can get away with it.</p><p></p><p>But you can't get away with it forever, everyone pays the price eventually. Whether it's in diapers and warfarin or just having some 3rd world 'carer' coming in and slapping you about when they should be wiping your arse.</p><p></p><p>Boomers are an easy target. But remember, they have as much disdain for their 'failed' offspring as well, who never got such great jobs, never got to be able to afford one single house, let alone three, never got to own their own car except under crippling debt...</p><p></p><p>It's a complex system, economics. Apparently people who study physics as a system do well in it. I can believe it. I'm an idiot myself, but then again I was never taught about 'economics' at school, or by my parents. </p><p></p><p>But as per that Soph vid I just posted, I've also come to believe that 'bankers' are evil and added them to the list with journos and politicos on. My boomer parents failed me in a massive way, there is no doubt about that, but I still don't like it when (((people))) try to manipulate me and pull my heart-strings. For (((people))) read (((anyone in a position of power))) that has the ability to not take responsibility. </p><p></p><p>This is what I have come to truly understand:</p><p></p><p>With great power, comes <em>no </em>responsibility.</p><p></p><p>See the banking crash and<em> never having to say you are sorry.</em></p><p></p><p>I'm a man severely limited by his not so massive intelligence. And also limited by a less than great education. Not to mention my own personal lack of not seeing the importance in all of this a lot sooner so I could have at least made some kind of effort to understand. </p><p></p><p>These things are made obtuse and opaque by design. But some kind of economic education is a grand necessity. For all. </p><p></p><p>I don't believe it's really possible to fully understand the whole boomer paradigm without one.</p><p></p><p>But then again, I do know when someone pisses down my back and tells me it's raining. </p><p></p><p>I'll look after my boomer parents even though they failed me. I'll even help to look after other boomers too even though they failed me as well in a wider sense. </p><p></p><p>We sure are inheriting a right shit show that is for sure. And the longer it takes for a reckoning, the greater that reckoning will be.</p><p></p><p>Life hasn't been great for us Gen-X'ers. Not as good as it could have been anyway. For most of us at least. But I don't envy what the generations to come will have to traverse.</p><p></p><p>But it's probably not just a boomer phenomenon. Just read any history book. I don't think the old have ever truly cared about the young, further than getting them born, raised, then kicked out the nest to go and mow someone else's lawn. </p><p></p><p>Child rearing must really take it out of you, and I think most parents are glad to see the back of theirs by the end of it. Why the fuck would they care about anyone else's kids in a wider societal sense?</p><p></p><p>It's every man for himself in this world. Boomers are part of the problem. But they aren't <em>the </em>problem. Just like the jews are not <em>the </em>problem.</p><p></p><p>So it's not so cut and dried. The propagandists on either side would like you to believe it is. That makes a <em>final solution</em> a lot easier to sell.</p><p></p><p>To paraphrase Paracelsus' last paragraph: we don't really care about other human beings extended beyond our immediate families. And it's not like many of us even have a 'tribe' any more, is it?</p><p></p><p>As a race we have come too far too quickly. Progress has been too fast. It seems to me we really don't want to solve this problem that has plagued humanity since we first came swinging out of the trees and on to the savannah. </p><p></p><p><em>How can we alleviate human suffering as much as possible, and share our resources in a meaningful way so a majority of us can be happy?</em></p><p></p><p>Until that question is even asked, all this stuff is academic. Until then it's the same old game: every man for himself. That attitude also exists in nuclear families as well if you didn't know. </p><p></p><p>It's surprising that Gen-X didn't rebel more than it did. But I guess by the time they realised they'd been had, those old drug and alcohol addictions would have really kicked in and they were too powerless to do anything about it. Except hate mum and dad a little bit more. Always taught to internalise their problems rather than finding external solutions for them, I also think a certain amount of 'learned helplessness' is at play as well. But it would explain them taking things out on themselves more than lashing out at the real culprits. But even we are getting on now, and anger can only be maintained for so long before it takes a real toll on the body and mind complex.</p><p></p><p>But no, a lot of the boomers aren't so well off. They've been playing a game of cat and mouse with the financial grim reaper. Do I spend it now and have fun, or do I spend it later (but possibly be dead by that point) and my bastard ungrateful children will get their undeserving hands on <em>my just rewards</em>. Tough one!</p><p></p><p>Some of them have calculated less than perfectly, shall we say. </p><p></p><p>Either way, you can't take it with you when you go, but then again, there isn't that much left of it anyway, for the <em>average </em>boomer.</p><p></p><p>You would have thought they would have put some kind of structure in place for their old age retirement, but no, they were too busy having fun, fun, fun, until their daddy took their tv away...</p><p></p><p>Just my ill-informed observations. Don't take them too seriously.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rigsby, post: 1267330, member: 7361"] The truth is, divide and conquer is the most successful game ever played. I doubt there will ever be a time it it not used, and the majority of people don't fall for it. Blacks against whites, male vs. female, rich vs. poor and now young vs. old. There is definitely a boomer mind-set, and they definitely deserve scorn as a demographic, but it's wise to remember that most of them weren't 'individually' responsible. Most people will take a bite of the apple if they can get away with it. But you can't get away with it forever, everyone pays the price eventually. Whether it's in diapers and warfarin or just having some 3rd world 'carer' coming in and slapping you about when they should be wiping your arse. Boomers are an easy target. But remember, they have as much disdain for their 'failed' offspring as well, who never got such great jobs, never got to be able to afford one single house, let alone three, never got to own their own car except under crippling debt... It's a complex system, economics. Apparently people who study physics as a system do well in it. I can believe it. I'm an idiot myself, but then again I was never taught about 'economics' at school, or by my parents. But as per that Soph vid I just posted, I've also come to believe that 'bankers' are evil and added them to the list with journos and politicos on. My boomer parents failed me in a massive way, there is no doubt about that, but I still don't like it when (((people))) try to manipulate me and pull my heart-strings. For (((people))) read (((anyone in a position of power))) that has the ability to not take responsibility. This is what I have come to truly understand: With great power, comes [i]no [/i]responsibility. See the banking crash and[i] never having to say you are sorry.[/i] I'm a man severely limited by his not so massive intelligence. And also limited by a less than great education. Not to mention my own personal lack of not seeing the importance in all of this a lot sooner so I could have at least made some kind of effort to understand. These things are made obtuse and opaque by design. But some kind of economic education is a grand necessity. For all. I don't believe it's really possible to fully understand the whole boomer paradigm without one. But then again, I do know when someone pisses down my back and tells me it's raining. I'll look after my boomer parents even though they failed me. I'll even help to look after other boomers too even though they failed me as well in a wider sense. We sure are inheriting a right shit show that is for sure. And the longer it takes for a reckoning, the greater that reckoning will be. Life hasn't been great for us Gen-X'ers. Not as good as it could have been anyway. For most of us at least. But I don't envy what the generations to come will have to traverse. But it's probably not just a boomer phenomenon. Just read any history book. I don't think the old have ever truly cared about the young, further than getting them born, raised, then kicked out the nest to go and mow someone else's lawn. Child rearing must really take it out of you, and I think most parents are glad to see the back of theirs by the end of it. Why the fuck would they care about anyone else's kids in a wider societal sense? It's every man for himself in this world. Boomers are part of the problem. But they aren't [i]the [/i]problem. Just like the jews are not [i]the [/i]problem. So it's not so cut and dried. The propagandists on either side would like you to believe it is. That makes a [i]final solution[/i] a lot easier to sell. To paraphrase Paracelsus' last paragraph: we don't really care about other human beings extended beyond our immediate families. And it's not like many of us even have a 'tribe' any more, is it? As a race we have come too far too quickly. Progress has been too fast. It seems to me we really don't want to solve this problem that has plagued humanity since we first came swinging out of the trees and on to the savannah. [i]How can we alleviate human suffering as much as possible, and share our resources in a meaningful way so a majority of us can be happy?[/i] Until that question is even asked, all this stuff is academic. Until then it's the same old game: every man for himself. That attitude also exists in nuclear families as well if you didn't know. It's surprising that Gen-X didn't rebel more than it did. But I guess by the time they realised they'd been had, those old drug and alcohol addictions would have really kicked in and they were too powerless to do anything about it. Except hate mum and dad a little bit more. Always taught to internalise their problems rather than finding external solutions for them, I also think a certain amount of 'learned helplessness' is at play as well. But it would explain them taking things out on themselves more than lashing out at the real culprits. But even we are getting on now, and anger can only be maintained for so long before it takes a real toll on the body and mind complex. But no, a lot of the boomers aren't so well off. They've been playing a game of cat and mouse with the financial grim reaper. Do I spend it now and have fun, or do I spend it later (but possibly be dead by that point) and my bastard ungrateful children will get their undeserving hands on [i]my just rewards[/i]. Tough one! Some of them have calculated less than perfectly, shall we say. Either way, you can't take it with you when you go, but then again, there isn't that much left of it anyway, for the [i]average [/i]boomer. You would have thought they would have put some kind of structure in place for their old age retirement, but no, they were too busy having fun, fun, fun, until their daddy took their tv away... Just my ill-informed observations. Don't take them too seriously. [/QUOTE]
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