The Brazil election thread

droughtmeat

Woodpecker
@Batka interesting video and nice explanations. However, I think the problem is much less complex. The Brazilian people were simply fed up of trusting the party that kept on disappointing them. They have nothing to lose voting for Bolsonaro, because things can't really get much worse.
Every since the democratic regime took over the homicide rates increased by 8% every single year and the by 2% in recent years, but still steadily increased.

They're simply fed up. Bolsonaro didn't even have to push the narrative and being an angel. He simply said he's gonna change the things that have been annoying the Brazilian people by any means necessary.
 

Going strong

Crow
Gold Member
Batka said:
CaptainChardonnay said:
Ignore and report Batka, he is a idiot and a troll

When people do this, be they libtard antifa or on conservative/Alt-Right, they are nothing but hacks. I defend your right to express your opinion, even if you are calling for mine to taken away.

I defend your right to express your opinion: do you now? Because, I seem to remember you reporting on my "bad, right-wing" posts at the slightest occasion, am I wrong? :s

Plus, on this forum you consistently defend political regimes that brutally silence their opponents.

I mean, can you seriously tell us here, that your beloved Maduro (a real monster by all accounts) and Ortega, or even Sasha G, allow the opposition to voice their concerns? :dodgy:

No offense, but your reactions (like those of Traktor, you might remember him) are very typical for Leftists: when Leftists are not in power (and certainly they aren't in control, on this forum), they call for "tolerance" and "let's all opinions be heard". But once in power, they shut down and in general promptly massacre the Conservatives.
 

Batka

 
Going strong said:
Batka said:
CaptainChardonnay said:
Ignore and report Batka, he is a idiot and a troll

When people do this, be they libtard antifa or on conservative/Alt-Right, they are nothing but hacks. I defend your right to express your opinion, even if you are calling for mine to taken away.

I defend your right to express your opinion: do you now? Because, I seem to remember you reporting on my "bad, right-wing" posts at the slightest occasion, am I wrong? :s

Plus, on this forum you consistently defend political regimes that brutally silence their opponents.

I mean, can you seriously tell us here, that your beloved Maduro (a real monster by all accounts) and Ortega, or even Sasha G, allow the opposition to voice their concerns? :dodgy:

No offense, but your reactions (like those of Traktor, you might remember him) are very typical for Leftists: when Leftists are not in power (and certainly they aren't in control, on this forum), they call for "tolerance" and "let's all opinions be heard". But once in power, they shut down and in general promptly massacre the Conservatives.

I wasn't the only one who complained about you. As far as I can recall, the reason I complained about you was because you were spamming a World Cup football post with WRT malarky along with Zel (Simeon).
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
Batka said:
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Google is your friend.


Heh.
Not to go off on a tangent. Yet Google is not even Google's friend.
What with so many Google staff staging a protest / strike / walk out due to internal management sexual assault shenanigans at Google... :rolleyes:
 

JoSuado

Sparrow
Trump election and Bolsonaro election. I've never seen two elections so similar in my life. For me, it was like watching the same movie again. And experiencing the same feeling of joy again.
This video shows many """specialists""" saying "Bolsonaro will never be president". It is the Brazilian version of "Trump will never be president".
 

PharaohRa

Kingfisher
I am glad that Jair Bolsonaro won the election. He looks like someone that wants to kick ass and take names and make Brazil a respectable country. I think he can pull it off because he (and many others that support him) have the will to do so. I also think he will have more success in fixing Brazil to make it a better country than what others think since he reminds me of a no nonsense Fortune 500 CEO.
 

scotian

Peacock
Gold Member
I interested in seeing what will happen to the Brazilian oil company Petrobras, it was rocked by a major corruption scandal and it's share price plummeted, I wonder if Bolsonaro will open up Brazilian offshore oil fields to foreign investment and ownership?
 

beta_plus

Pelican
Brazilian Oil is expensive

scotian said:
I interested in seeing what will happen to the Brazilian oil company Petrobras, it was rocked by a major corruption scandal and it's share price plummeted, I wonder if Bolsonaro will open up Brazilian offshore oil fields to foreign investment and ownership?

I don't know about the entire country, but the offshore discovery apparently requires a mile of very difficult drilling after you go down deep into the water. It breaks even at $80 so Brazil probably won't see much action on this thanks to US Shale having broken OPEC's back.

This is at least according to Peter Zeihan, who I highly recommend reading and watching. Given your now legendary-on-the-forum Canadian oil industry background, I would extra recommend him in your case
 

Rocha

Ostrich
Gold Member
Batka said:
budoslavic said:
beta_plus said:
JoSuado said:
Mekorig said:
JoSuado, fo you have some recents examples of lefty salt about Bolsonaro in the social media and/or video?


I can't even understand Brazilian Portuguese and this is hilarious.

One doesn't need to understand the language. Just turn off the volume and watch their body language and facial expressions. Holy shit...what a comical meltdown. They reminded me a lot like the Hillary Supporters on Election Night 2016 when Trump won. :lol:

Sooner or later, the Lefties in Brazil will be making an appointment with a therapist for symptoms related to BDS (Bolsonaro Derangement Syndrome).

It wont be just the Lefties who will be seeking the services of a therapist, it will be the Brazilian people when they realize that they have been sold a corporatist, globalist pup. Wait until the Chicago Boys show up and give them a right dose of shock mass privitization, neo-liberal economic medicine.

Wall Street and the MSM is celebrating his win.

For the rest of the plebs, it will all end in tears.

Not even Trump, LePen, or Putin all together have or have had such a bad publicity in Portuguguese MSM as the Myth Jair Bolsonaro. Even after he had an expressive and smashing win in the first round of the elections (around 70%) on the votes of the Brazilian expats in Portugal, by far the biggest foreign community around here...

I rest my case on your statement.
 

BBinger

Kingfisher
scotian said:
I interested in seeing what will happen to the Brazilian oil company Petrobras, it was rocked by a major corruption scandal and it's share price plummeted, I wonder if Bolsonaro will open up Brazilian offshore oil fields to foreign investment and ownership?

The Brasileros have made substantial headway in capturing ownership of US agriculture businesses. Any business that can navigate Brasilero red tape can thrive anywhere open to foreign investment. I doubt foreign investors could compete with Brasileros who mostly kept their wealth abroad when it comes to Brasilero petroleum. Never mind that Venezueala wins the quantity game when it comes to crude against anyone. Venezuela of course suffers the need to mix a little bit of Texas with their heavy shit to transport it anywhere.

Like other Great Again Politicians, Bolsonaro is likely to keep up the nationalism and keep Brasilero oil Brasilero, but I can see him splitting, neutering, or taking over Petrobras.

I like the idea that Bolsonaro's example can keep Macri from a second term in Argentina for being too Pantsuit. I also really want Dom Pedro to abuse the family trees to find a common ancestor with Emperor Pedro II.
 

Wreckingball

Pelican
Rocha said:
Batka said:
budoslavic said:
beta_plus said:
JoSuado said:

I can't even understand Brazilian Portuguese and this is hilarious.

One doesn't need to understand the language. Just turn off the volume and watch their body language and facial expressions. Holy shit...what a comical meltdown. They reminded me a lot like the Hillary Supporters on Election Night 2016 when Trump won. :lol:

Sooner or later, the Lefties in Brazil will be making an appointment with a therapist for symptoms related to BDS (Bolsonaro Derangement Syndrome).

It wont be just the Lefties who will be seeking the services of a therapist, it will be the Brazilian people when they realize that they have been sold a corporatist, globalist pup. Wait until the Chicago Boys show up and give them a right dose of shock mass privitization, neo-liberal economic medicine.

Wall Street and the MSM is celebrating his win.

For the rest of the plebs, it will all end in tears.

Not even Trump, LePen, or Putin all together have or have had such a bad publicity in Portuguguese MSM as the Myth Jair Bolsonaro. Even after he had an expressive and smashing win in the first round of the elections (around 70%) on the votes of the Brazilian expats in Portugal, by far the biggest foreign community around here...

I rest my case on your statement.

And don't forget that some of our "tolerant left" wants to deport the brasilians that voted for bolsonaro.
 

TutorGuina

Woodpecker
Wreckingball said:
And don't forget that some of our "tolerant left" wants to deport the brasilians that voted for bolsonaro.

WTF man, do you have any source on this?
It's impressive how Europe is becoming more and more of a ditactorship, it's probably one of the last places where you would expect this to happen 20 or 10 years ago
 

Mekorig

Pelican
Gold Member
beta_plus said:
I don't know about the entire country, but the offshore discovery apparently requires a mile of very difficult drilling after you go down deep into the water. It breaks even at $80 so Brazil probably won't see much action on this thanks to US Shale having broken OPEC's back.

This is at least according to Peter Zeihan, who I highly recommend reading and watching. Given your now legendary-on-the-forum Canadian oil industry background, I would extra recommend him in your case

Something similar is happening with the Malvinas/Falklands oil as far i know. We also have some shale oil thing working in Vaca Muerta.
 

droughtmeat

Woodpecker
TutorGuina said:
Wreckingball said:
And don't forget that some of our "tolerant left" wants to deport the brasilians that voted for bolsonaro.

WTF man, do you have any source on this?
It's impressive how Europe is becoming more and more of a ditactorship, it's probably one of the last places where you would expect this to happen 20 or 10 years ago

lol there's actually an online petition on this https://peticaopublica.com/pview.aspx?pi=PT90967

Apoie esta Petição. Assine e divulgue. O seu apoio é muito importante.
Queremos os apoiantes do bolsonaro expulsos e deportados de Portugal
Para: brasileiros
Não queremos nazistas nem pessoas a favor de regimes no nosso país!

Support this Petition. Subscribe and disseminate. Your support is very important.
We want the Bolsonaro supporters expelled and deported from Portugal
To: Brazilians
We do not want Nazis or people in favor of regimes in our country!
 

Bienvenuto

Pelican
Gold Member
Going strong said:
Batka said:
CaptainChardonnay said:
Ignore and report Batka, he is a idiot and a troll

When people do this, be they libtard antifa or on conservative/Alt-Right, they are nothing but hacks. I defend your right to express your opinion, even if you are calling for mine to taken away.

I defend your right to express your opinion: do you now? Because, I seem to remember you reporting on my "bad, right-wing" posts at the slightest occasion, am I wrong? :s

Plus, on this forum you consistently defend political regimes that brutally silence their opponents.

I mean, can you seriously tell us here, that your beloved Maduro (a real monster by all accounts) and Ortega, or even Sasha G, allow the opposition to voice their concerns? :dodgy:

No offense, but your reactions (like those of Traktor, you might remember him) are very typical for Leftists: when Leftists are not in power (and certainly they aren't in control, on this forum), they call for "tolerance" and "let's all opinions be heard". But once in power, they shut down and in general promptly massacre the Conservatives.

A slight tangent but.. "No, No we don't need a wall.. Control illegals by using ground sensors and laser beams and thermal imaging and, and.. and Lets have a bi-partisan group work on something Much Better - BUT not the wall! Anything but the wall ...when there are such better options!"

Go along with it and do you think they come up with this magical something better replacement?
Bullshit, they got to stop the wall: which was the whole point all along.

"Just.. we need to have a CONVERSATION.. we need to allow all opinions to be heard! We need to have a special counsel to investigate these very solid claims in the dossier! We need to have a broad inquiry as to whether this family man was indeed a serial gang rapist! and of course.. Let All Opinions Be Heard.." and thus - run interference on their enemies initiatives and in doing so weaken their momentum and buy more time.

The Left are beyond weasels.
 
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