The Brazil election thread

TutorGuina

Woodpecker
budoslavic said:

Really curious to see what the forum thinks of that

The other day during the campaign I saw this guy stamping the Bolsonaro family with the ethno-nationalist label and it created a major confusion amongst the pro-Mito brazillian viewers

Better tell the truth sooner than later, there is no big racial platform in Brazil or even anything relating to JQ
Brazillian right is no Alt-Right

Bolsonaro's platform is pro Israel just as it is pro brazillians of all races and I personally think it's better this way
Even the deranged left here tries to rile people up along these lines and the result is pretty mediocre and localized so far
 
It is IMPOSSIBLE to have a racial identitarian platform in Brazil and win. For obvious reasons. Bolsonaro has some strong views on racial issues but he can't simply antagonize millions of people because of their colour! Eventually, Brazil will most likely balkanize, the South wants to split for the longest of times. Let's see if they'll ever be allowed to.

As for the Israel issue... This is not a secret, it's nothing new. And him being pro Israel is irrelevant for me as well. I don't give a rat's ass about Israel, I just don't want them to drag others to their wars. The problem, more than Israel, is rootless financial elite that happens to be ethnically Jewish and not much else.
 

Foolsgo1d

Peacock
TutorGuina said:
Wreckingball said:
And don't forget that some of our "tolerant left" wants to deport the brasilians that voted for bolsonaro.

WTF man, do you have any source on this?
It's impressive how Europe is becoming more and more of a ditactorship, it's probably one of the last places where you would expect this to happen 20 or 10 years ago

Dont forget your history. The decades since WW2 are just a rare case of peace in many hundreds of years of war, conflict and bad diplomacy.
 

Quays2

Pigeon
I thought the whole point of Israel is that every nearby Middle Eastern nation has an enemy to focus on instead of looking further afield?

Basically Israel absorbs all the hate and serves as a shield for the West.
 

Wreckingball

Pelican
TutorGuina said:
Wreckingball said:
And don't forget that some of our "tolerant left" wants to deport the brasilians that voted for bolsonaro.

WTF man, do you have any source on this?
It's impressive how Europe is becoming more and more of a ditactorship, it's probably one of the last places where you would expect this to happen 20 or 10 years ago
https://www.dn.pt/poder/interior/br...da-martins-retira-post-polemico-10104850.html

It is in Portuguese.
It is a small level leftist politician. But it is known that Parties use small level guys, all the time, to judge the acceptance of some ideas.
 

Emancipator

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Brazil’s Bolsonaro Shows Majority-Minority US May Not Work Out Quite How Left Hopes
We constantly hear the Dem/ Main Stream Media Complex gloating that the US will be a majority non-white country by the 2040s. This prediction makes white Democrats hopeful as they naively envision a rainbow future of equality, love and electoral hegemony. It makes white Republicans despondent, as they see it as a harbinger of permanent Leftist rule and the destruction of the America they knew and cherished [Study: overhyped media narratives about America’s fading white majority fuel anxiety, By Matthew Yglesias, Vox, May 2, 2018]. But the election of Jair Bolsonaro as president of Brazil shows that even when whites are a minority—in Brazil they constitute just 47% of the population—people who value the future of the country can still win.

There is little question that becoming “majority-minority” will be bad for the US. The more ethnically diverse a society is the more conflict there is (see Ethnic Conflicts, by Tatu Vanhanen) and the less white (or Northeast Asian) it is, the less intelligent it is, meaning chaos, corruption, and out-of-control crime (see Intelligence: A Unifying Construct for the Social Sciences, by Richard Lynn and Tatu Vanhanen).

But Bolsonaro’s election seems to show that the political consequences of this might be paradoxical. Decades of Leftist and minority rule—riven by corruption, Politically Correct hypocrisy, incompetence, the over-promotion of low IQ minority workers, the mollycoddling of criminals (especially minorities), the belief that money grows on trees, and the suppression of people of industry and originality—seems to have led to such utter bedlam that people simply had no choice but to vote for a conservative and even a “far right” (read: “genuinely conservative”) government.

Even highly liberal people will find themselves adopting a rather more robust politics when their money becomes worthless and their house is robbed at gunpoint. The result, as in Brazil, is that all but youngest and “wokest” members of the middle class will vote for a conservative candidate and all but the butchest of Feminist females within this group do likewise.

Only professional people capable of living in a dream world keep voting for the Left in such conditions. 30% of Brazilian college graduates voted for Bolsonaro in the first round (presumably more in the second round) compared to 19% for the Workers Party candidate. [Who Supports Brazil’s New Strongman?, By Gianpaolo Baiocchi and Marcelo Silva, Boston Review, October 12, 2018]

Whites, once they are a minority, can be expected to increasingly feel under threat, meaning they will increasingly vote conservative as a block. In the southern state of Santa Catarina, which is about 85% white, Bolsonaro took 76% of the vote in the second round. In some cities in Santa Catarina, he garnered more than 80% of the vote and in one town he secured a 92% vote share [Where are the main Bolsonaro strongholds in Brazil?, By Felipe Ribas, Gazeta do Povo, October 30, 2018, ]. Even Rio de Janeiro, which is only 54% white, gave Bolsonaro 60% of the vote in the first round.

Whites and Pardos—“mixed” Brazilians, many of them about 80% white but identifying as “mixed” due to attendant social benefits—dominate the densely-populated south of Brazil. It was only Bolsonaro’s relatively weak performance in the non-white Northeast, populated by Quilombolas—slave-descended black peasants who have stayed on the land upon which their ancestors were slaves, mainly to farm bananas—that prevented him from winning in the first round. [Un-mappable Fascism By Freg Stokes, Overland, October 29, 2018 ]

And, unfortunately for the Left, when they’ve been in power for a long time and things have gotten very bad, people’s basic instinct for survival tends to hit in. Under anxiety-inducing conditions, we hanker after stability, often leading us to become more conservative and rule-following [Fear and Anxiety Drive Conservatives' Political Attitudes, By Bobby Azarian, Psychology Today, December 31, 2016] as well as more religiously fundamentalist.

Psychologists measure how religious people are with the so-called Fundamentalism Scale. This is comprised of a series of questions - on issues such as frequency of prayer or certainty of God’s existence – where subjects provide a response on a scale, such as 1 (“I pray every day”) to 5 (“I never pray”). Scores on this instrument correlate with scores on the “Right Wing Authoritarian Scale” (which rates you on more general conservative views, such as towards immigration) at 0.75, meaning that, to a great extent, religiousness and conservatism are the same thing [Predicting prejudice from religious fundamentalism and right wing authoritarianism, By B. Laythe et al., Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion, 2001].

In addition, people of low IQ tend to be coldly practical, disinterested in ideology; firmly focused on surviving and on hedonism. This is at least partly because the character trait social psychologists call “Openness-Intellect” (which makes you interested in the arts and ideas) is positively associated with IQ. People with low IQ also tend to have harsh and conservative social attitudes towards issues like crime or sexual deviance. (See At Our Wits’ End, By Edward Dutton and Michael Woodley of Menie, 2018, Chapter 2 and 5.)

For all these reasons, when Leftist-run life gets shambolic enough, even a significant minority of blacks will vote for candidates like Bolsonaro, even if they do remark on how many blacks (generally meaning quilombolas) are fat, lazy, and shouldn’t breed, (see the YouTube clip of “gaffes” below) because, unless they are feckless and happy to rely on Leftist handouts, blacks understand that order and combatting crime tends to make businesses easier to run, helping to put more food on your plate.


Among the non-white Brazilians—Pardo (mixed) and Preto (black, including quilombolas)—Bolsonaro still garnered 50% of the vote in the second round. At a bus stop in Recife, in the northeast, two elderly black ladies told Overland’s Freg J. Stokes, cited above, that they’d voted for Bolsonaro because he would stop the “bandits”—“I hate the bandits; I want to be safe on the street—just kill them all!”

The outskirts of Rio Di Janeiro resemble northeast Brazil, demographically speaking. These impoverished, gang-run areas are substantially Preto. But Stokes reports that the Bolsonaro vote was actually stronger there than in the wealthy, white centre and suburbs.
It is only in the Northeast, where failing black banana farmers lack the future-orientation to migrate to the cities and have become welfare junkies, that Bolsonaro performed poorly.

Incredibly (or perhaps not), Brazilian pollsters haven’t reported what percent of whites voted for Bolsonaro in Round Two. But we can make an educated guess. Turnout in the white south tends to be about 89% (voting is compulsory in Brazil) while in the non-white northeast it is roughly 75%; the national average being 80%. [Compulsory For Whom? by Timothy Power, Journal of Politics in Latin America, 2009] Based on these figures, the Brazilian electorate is just over 50% white and 60% of whites voted for Bolsonaro, almost exactly the same as the 58% of whites who voted for Trump in a country where the white electorate is much larger. [Samantha Bee on the Whites Who Helped Elect Trump, By Neal Broverman, The Advocate, November 10, 2016] In other words, even when whites are a minority someone like Trump can still get elected.

Demographics is indeed destiny and (unless immigration policy is dramatically changed) there likely will be a time in the U.S. when a junta of virtue-signalling minority-manipulating Democrats will be able to take power. But, as always happens when SJWs wrest control, society will collapse into chaos. And when it does, Bolsonaro’s election suggests that even half of non-white voters will be prepared to elect a “far right” government to put things “right” again.

Note that America’s two-party system is no bar to this. Bolsonaro received 46% of the vote in the first round, knocking out a candidate to the right even of him, two pro-business candidates, and a libertarian. Even if only half of their votes had gone to Bolsonaro he would have exceeded 50% of the poll in the first round.

It is a law of political history from the Fall of Rome and the rise of Christian Europe to Britain’s Margaret Thatcher being followed by Tony Blair’s “New Labour”: Conservatism makes you wealthy, wealth makes you decadent, decadence makes you vote Leftist, Leftism leads to chaos and chaos needs conservatives to clear up the mess and make people wealthy once again.

So even as America darkens, it is not too “audacious” to have some “hope.”
 

godfather dust

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Quays2 said:
I thought the whole point of Israel is that every nearby Middle Eastern nation has an enemy to focus on instead of looking further afield?

Basically Israel absorbs all the hate and serves as a shield for the West.

No Middle Eastern country would be a threat if we didn't have Jewish morality restraints. The migrant wave is a product of (((cultural marxism))) in the past they would all be shot crossing the border. Israel is responsible for about 100% of our problems in the Middle East, almost every war the US has been in in the past 30 or 40 years was on behalf of Israel.

Israel ceasing to exist would be one of the best things that could happen to the United States.
 

MajorStyles

Pelican
I was speaking to a liberal co-worker the other day who said the following (I paraphrase): "That new president in Brazil wants to cut down the trees in the Amazon."

I said nothing, even though a blinking "Bullshit" sign was appearing in head.
 

Wreckingball

Pelican
MajorStyles said:
I was speaking to a liberal co-worker the other day who said the following (I paraphrase): "That new president in Brazil wants to cut down the trees in the Amazon."

I said nothing, even though a blinking "Bullshit" sign was appearing in head.

hes not even in office and leftists are blaming him already for attacks on indigenous population
 

TutorGuina

Woodpecker
No one talking about the appointed Ministers?

The Minister of Justice is going to be Sergio Moro(on the left).
He was the judge responsible for operation Lava Jato, a Massive Anti-Corruption investigation that sent half of the Brazillian Upper Government, including ex-president Lula(on the right), to jail
Imagine the damage this guy could do to the Corruptocracy and the major Brazillian crime cartels..
iu

The left is already crying saying Bolsonaro colluded with the Justice System, since Lula would be a candidate before being arrested.
Maybe the Russians will be blamed this time aswell, although in these parts they like to blame the CIA more :lol:


Minister of Science and Technology will be a damn NASIST!!!1 :mad::mad:
astronauta_001.jpg


Minister of Defense and some of the others are going to be good too, apparently
 

JoSuado

Sparrow
Ernesto Araújo, Bolsonaro's Brazil foreign minister, is BASED. Definitely our guy.
He wrote in an article that Trump is a candidate for savior of Western Civilization. After being announced, he said that he will fight for Brazil's regeneracy.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...=Feed:+Reuters/worldNews+(Reuters+World+News)

"Araujo argued in his article that, unlike European leaders, Trump is saving western Christian civilization from radical Islam and “globalist cultural Marxism” by standing up for national identity, family values and the Christian faith."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...er-ernesto-araujo-climate-change-marxist-plot

He is a student of Olavo de Carvalho. Roosh reviewed the Carvalho's debate against Duguin years ago.

http://www.returnofkings.com/111686/the-future-of-the-usa-russia-and-the-new-world-order

By naming Araújo, Bolsonaro joins the team of anti-globalist world leaders. Olavo de Carvalho is one of the most vocal critics of globalism in the world.
 

TutorGuina

Woodpecker
JoSuado said:
He is a student of Olavo de Carvalho. Roosh reviewed the Carvalho's debate against Duguin years ago.

http://www.returnofkings.com/111686/the-future-of-the-usa-russia-and-the-new-world-order

Do you have the PDF for this debate? The link in the ROK page doesn't work.

I never took Olavo de Carvalho seriously, but every based Brazillian news source shows a massive respect towards him.
Roosh mentioning Olavo's positively is the last straw, definitely looking into his work now..
 

JoSuado

Sparrow
TutorGuina said:
Do you have the PDF for this debate? The link in the ROK page doesn't work.

I never took Olavo de Carvalho seriously, but every based Brazillian news source shows a massive respect towards him.
Roosh mentioning Olavo's positively is the last straw, definitely looking into his work now..

Here is the debate in Portuguese: http://politicaedireito.org/br/wp-c...ua-e-a-Nova-Ordem-Mundial-Alexandre-Dugin.pdf

Here is the debate in English: http://debateolavodugin.blogspot.com/

As Roosh said, Olavo's acute reading of globalism is impressive.
 
JoSuado said:
TutorGuina said:
Do you have the PDF for this debate? The link in the ROK page doesn't work.

I never took Olavo de Carvalho seriously, but every based Brazillian news source shows a massive respect towards him.
Roosh mentioning Olavo's positively is the last straw, definitely looking into his work now..

Here is the debate in Portuguese: http://politicaedireito.org/br/wp-c...ua-e-a-Nova-Ordem-Mundial-Alexandre-Dugin.pdf

Here is the debate in English: http://debateolavodugin.blogspot.com/

As Roosh said, Olavo's acute reading of globalism is impressive.

The only thing Roosh forgot to mention in the review was the islamic globalist movement.
 
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