The Brazil election thread

Mekorig

Pelican
Gold Member
Telesurenglish.....Batka, those brazilian girls will surely get thin, compared to the rotund and healthy venezuelan chavista girls, i am right comrade?
 

CaptainChardonnay

Ostrich
Gold Member
Batka just wondering, do you have any background in economics? What do you do as a profession?

In other news, my friends in Brazil are now all talking about buying some Glocks.
 

Batka

 
CaptainChardonnay said:
Batka just wondering, do you have any background in economics? What do you do as a profession?

In other news, my friends in Brazil are now all talking about buying some Glocks.

To answer your question, I work for an IT company. I majored in Political Science and Modern European History. Part of my BA included Economics.

If you want to know what the Chicago Boys and 'shock doctrine' libertarian economics are, just read up on Naomi Klein. About 10 years ago she produced the documentary, "The Shock Doctrine" which details the disaster that neo-liberal economics had in Latin America. One of Bolsonaro's ministers comes from this School. These were guys trained in the US and whose task was to dismantle state assets and hand them over to private capital for a song. I fear the same thing will happen in Brazil. Bolsanaro has already ditched the minimum wage and is in the process of handing over vast swathes of the Amazon to his big business cronies. I'm intelligent enough to figure out that things wont end well in Brazil.

Yes the PT were corrupt and do have a lot to answer but what Bolsonaro is about to do will eclipse any of that. Wall Street and the MSM are singing his praises, even the neo-cons like Nikki Haley FFS. Some time ago, I posted up a link about Bill Browder and what he and the architects of the Chicago School did in Russia including the likes of Jefferey Sachs. You dont have to be a rocket scientist to work out what happened in Russia in the 1990s. Look it up. All I can say is that millions of Russians died prematurely including members of my in law's family - lost to rampant alcoholism, poverty and disease. Mark Ames and Matt Taibbi of the eXile magazine published numerous accounts of economic and societal collapse in Russia in the 1990s - one of Taibbi's stories from Vorkuta is utterly harrowing. I have posted these links before. The Chicago Boys and shock doctrine nearly destroyed Latin America and Russia.

Anyway before I wander off track, here is the aforementioned documentary -

Back to Brazil, Bolsonaro's neo-liberal policies of deregulation and tax cuts for his wealthy friends will gut and destroy Brazil. The track record is there. Second, relaxing gun controls will not solve the crime problem in Brazil nor will police death squads. If you want to solve it, get to the systemic problems. Offer social programmes, education, housingm employment opportunities. Offer the carrot but carry the stick.

As for Venezuela, the country is under severe economic sanctions that are hurting its economy. Is Maduro exempt from blame? No he is not but the campaign to destabalize and destroy the economy with a view of regime change is very well documented. Russia has recently sent nuclear bombers to Venezuela. This was in response to Bolsonaro threatening to invade Venezuela. The message from Putin was clear. You mess with Caracas, you mess with me. Venezuela is heavily in debt to Russia and the last thing Putin wants is a right wing coup that would repudiate all the debts of Maduro and tell Moscow to fuck off. The last thing you want is to owe money to some burly Russians. Bolsanaro has sounded out about positioning US troops in Brazil so now we have a standoff between the US and Russia in Latin America. It's like the 1980s all over again.

https://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2018/12/18/russia-announces-military-base-in-venezuela/

And now the Iranians are to send a flotilla and park it right off the east coast https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...ews-USA-Trump-warships-Atlantic-Islamic-state

Two can play that game mate.
 
Batka said:
SamuelBRoberts said:
So this new president dude who everybody's freaking out about,
is he gonna make Brazilian chicks hotter or uglier?

Judging from the news, he is going to make them thinner.....a lot thinner.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/news...c&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork

The Chicago Boys are back in town. It's like the 1970s all over again. Wall Street will be happy.


From the link...

Brazil’s new far-right President Jair Bolsonaro lowered the minimum wage. He signed a decree that sets the minimum wage to 998 Brazilian reais (approximately US$257) from 1,006 Brazilian reais (approximately US$267) as estimated by former President Michel Temer.

He lowered the minimum wage by 8 reals.
8 reals is about $2.50 a month.

Not sure that's really going to plunge a lot of people into starvation.
 

PharaohRa

Kingfisher
Goni said:
PharaohRa said:
It does not matter whether Bolsonaro is a Zionist asskisser, but what matters is how we can use him as part of the nationalist wave to reclaim our countries, our heritage, our traditions and our people from the Cultural Marxist trash. Also, this is coming from someone who has no love for Zionists.

Haaaa

How can you claim your countries and heritage when in power is a zionist asslicker and vassal?

It does not make any sense and it is very clear this is a strategy of jews and their deep state to overrun and take control of "right" wing movements.

The same thing with the so called right wing newspapper Breitbart , which is a entirely zionist controlled newspapper and one of their endless means of media control.

It is called controlled opposition. Not just the liberal media but also the " conservative right wing" one too is under their control.

The same thing is with Trump.

The 3rd Reich was the only anti zionist state in history and the jews not just united everyone against Hitler , but for 75 years continue to demonize him in Hollywood.

The USA are the hammer the jews use to destroy and turn to ashes everyone which is a threat to their globalization policies.

Before it was the " british empire" whose bank and trade companies ( east and west indies) were entirely jewish controlled.

I don't think you understand how the name of the game works and I take it that you think of things in the here and now instead of considering the future. You see, many of these right wing leaders know that the (((usual suspects))) run things in this planet, and the best way to get them off their back is to pay lip service to them and do the little things to make them happy so that they can fix their countries to eventually tell the (((usual suspects))) to fuck off. Yes, Jair Bolsonaro is a civnat, but his actions have long term positive consequences for white and non-white Brazilians. This strategy is comparable to how the Russians had to pay lip service to the Mongols while building up the Russian Republic (and kingdom) before they had the ability to throw off the Mongol yoke.
 

Lime

Kingfisher
The Amazon lands are not even that good for agriculture, the lands get infertile after a few harvests. Then the Amazon is gone and the land useless. Then another part will be chopped down and ultimately be a barren land. It is fucked up if this will really happen. We should keep the nature left in this world.

People should also let go of the thought that caring for nature is a ‘leftist’ issue.
 

Goni

Woodpecker
PharaohRa said:
Goni said:
PharaohRa said:
It does not matter whether Bolsonaro is a Zionist asskisser, but what matters is how we can use him as part of the nationalist wave to reclaim our countries, our heritage, our traditions and our people from the Cultural Marxist trash. Also, this is coming from someone who has no love for Zionists.

Haaaa

How can you claim your countries and heritage when in power is a zionist asslicker and vassal?

It does not make any sense and it is very clear this is a strategy of jews and their deep state to overrun and take control of "right" wing movements.

The same thing with the so called right wing newspapper Breitbart , which is a entirely zionist controlled newspapper and one of their endless means of media control.

It is called controlled opposition. Not just the liberal media but also the " conservative right wing" one too is under their control.

The same thing is with Trump.

The 3rd Reich was the only anti zionist state in history and the jews not just united everyone against Hitler , but for 75 years continue to demonize him in Hollywood.

The USA are the hammer the jews use to destroy and turn to ashes everyone which is a threat to their globalization policies.

Before it was the " british empire" whose bank and trade companies ( east and west indies) were entirely jewish controlled.

I don't think you understand how the name of the game works and I take it that you think of things in the here and now instead of considering the future. You see, many of these right wing leaders know that the (((usual suspects))) run things in this planet, and the best way to get them off their back is to pay lip service to them and do the little things to make them happy so that they can fix their countries to eventually tell the (((usual suspects))) to fuck off. Yes, Jair Bolsonaro is a civnat, but his actions have long term positive consequences for white and non-white Brazilians. This strategy is comparable to how the Russians had to pay lip service to the Mongols while building up the Russian Republic (and kingdom) before they had the ability to throw off the Mongol yoke.

I know very well how the game works and probably better than you think but we are not meassuring our dicks here.

When things are evident they simply are.

A brighting day is evident since the dawn of the sun.

Bolsonaro is going to fuck up the biggest tropical forest in the world for no reason, just goving it up the brazilian oligarchies linked to zionists.

He cut off the minimum salary in a country which is very poor in many parts of it. In a country with many no go zone areas where people are killed in prisons like animals.

Do you people really think that presidents in the USA are elected by the people??

Even if there is a real election does not matter because the deep state has chosen the both candidates.

How do you think that a jewish owned newspappaer such as Breitbart became so fast the backbone of the right wing and Trump in America?

Btw since ypu mentioned it , The Russians did not throw off the Mongol yoke.

It was the Mongol Empire that went down very fast in less than 100 years.

If the Mongol Empire would be more multi ethnic and career based such as the Ottoman Empire , where the the best and must warlike ethnicites( that converted to Islam)
controlled and extended the empire ( such as Albanians) the Mongol Empire would continue to rule the Russians for at least 300 years if not more.

Anyway lets give Bolsonaro 2 years and see how the things will go.
 

TheBowery

Robin
Gold Member
Bolsonaro's guru is a red pill OG who lives in rural Virginia

https://www.americasquarterly.org/content/jair-bolsonaros-guru

Despite not having lived in Brazil since 2005, and liberally sprinkling his columns and speeches with references to little-known 19th century philosophers, the pipe-smoking 71-year-old has built a fervent social media following of more than 500,000 people - among them President-elect Jair Bolsonaro, who prominently displayed Carvalho’s book The Minimum You Need to Know to Not Be an Idiot on his desk during his election night victory speech in October.

Carvalho’s championing of individual liberties and Christianity, and his combative, obscenity-laced vilification of globalism, Islam, communists and the left in general, recalls a Brazilian Sean Hannity or Steve Bannon, with a bit of the Marlboro Man mixed in. Such ideas were completely out of the mainstream in Brazil just six months ago - but novelty is precisely the core of his (and Bolsonaro’s) appeal in a country still reeling from its worst recession in a century and a series of scandals that left the previous political establishment in ruins.

The day I visited him in November, Carvalho was riding high. Bolsonaro had just named as his foreign minister Ernesto Araújo, a career diplomat whom Carvalho by all accounts single-handedly plucked from relative obscurity and recommended for the job. Araújo had on his personal blog called climate change a Marxist conspiracy and complained about the supposed “criminalization” of heterosexual intercourse, oil and red meat. “I started reading (the blog) and I said - ‘This guy is a genius! He has to be foreign minister!'” Carvalho enthused. “He understands the risk from globalism is real … he’s a Christian, and he’ll do the best he can.”
 

CaptainChardonnay

Ostrich
Gold Member
Batka said:
CaptainChardonnay said:
Batka just wondering, do you have any background in economics? What do you do as a profession?

In other news, my friends in Brazil are now all talking about buying some Glocks.

To answer your question, I work for an IT company. I majored in Political Science and Modern European History. Part of my BA included Economics.

If you want to know what the Chicago Boys and 'shock doctrine' libertarian economics are, just read up on Naomi Klein. About 10 years ago she produced the documentary, "The Shock Doctrine" which details the disaster that neo-liberal economics had in Latin America. One of Bolsonaro's ministers comes from this School. These were guys trained in the US and whose task was to dismantle state assets and hand them over to private capital for a song. I fear the same thing will happen in Brazil. Bolsanaro has already ditched the minimum wage and is in the process of handing over vast swathes of the Amazon to his big business cronies. I'm intelligent enough to figure out that things wont end well in Brazil.

Yes the PT were corrupt and do have a lot to answer but what Bolsonaro is about to do will eclipse any of that. Wall Street and the MSM are singing his praises, even the neo-cons like Nikki Haley FFS. Some time ago, I posted up a link about Bill Browder and what he and the architects of the Chicago School did in Russia including the likes of Jefferey Sachs. You dont have to be a rocket scientist to work out what happened in Russia in the 1990s. Look it up. All I can say is that millions of Russians died prematurely including members of my in law's family - lost to rampant alcoholism, poverty and disease. Mark Ames and Matt Taibbi of the eXile magazine published numerous accounts of economic and societal collapse in Russia in the 1990s - one of Taibbi's stories from Vorkuta is utterly harrowing. I have posted these links before. The Chicago Boys and shock doctrine nearly destroyed Latin America and Russia.

Anyway before I wander off track, here is the aforementioned documentary -

Back to Brazil, Bolsonaro's neo-liberal policies of deregulation and tax cuts for his wealthy friends will gut and destroy Brazil. The track record is there. Second, relaxing gun controls will not solve the crime problem in Brazil nor will police death squads. If you want to solve it, get to the systemic problems. Offer social programmes, education, housingm employment opportunities. Offer the carrot but carry the stick.

As for Venezuela, the country is under severe economic sanctions that are hurting its economy. Is Maduro exempt from blame? No he is not but the campaign to destabalize and destroy the economy with a view of regime change is very well documented. Russia has recently sent nuclear bombers to Venezuela. This was in response to Bolsonaro threatening to invade Venezuela. The message from Putin was clear. You mess with Caracas, you mess with me. Venezuela is heavily in debt to Russia and the last thing Putin wants is a right wing coup that would repudiate all the debts of Maduro and tell Moscow to fuck off. The last thing you want is to owe money to some burly Russians. Bolsanaro has sounded out about positioning US troops in Brazil so now we have a standoff between the US and Russia in Latin America. It's like the 1980s all over again.

https://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2018/12/18/russia-announces-military-base-in-venezuela/

And now the Iranians are to send a flotilla and park it right off the east coast https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...ews-USA-Trump-warships-Atlantic-Islamic-state

Two can play that game mate.

From what I understand, you read one book or watched that documentary made by a feminist and now you think thats how the world works?

If you have taken a basic economics class then you should know that minimum wage only hurts employers and employees.

Chile was run by a dictator. The USSR literally fell apart. Both of these are what I would consider poor examples.

The thing with free market capitalism is yes you will have a rich people and poor people. The rich people get to their positions by providing value to other people in the form of jobs and services/products.

Venezuela[edit]
Klein signed a 2004 petition entitled, “We would vote for Hugo Chávez.”[44] In 2007 she described Venezuela under the Chávez government as a country where "citizens had renewed their faith in the power of democracy to improve their lives," and described Venezuela as a place sheltered by Chávez’s policies from the economic shocks produced by capitalism.[45] Rather, according to Klein, Chávez protected his country from financial crisis by building “a zone of relative economic calm and predictability.”[45][46] According to reviewer Todd Gitlin, who described the overall argument of Klein's 2007 book, The Shock Doctrine, as, "more right than wrong," Klein is "a romantic," who expected that the Chávez government would produce a bright future in which worker-controlled co-operatives would run the economy.[47] The Shock Doctrine was consistent were her prior thinking about globalization, and in that book she describes Chávez' policies as an example of public control of some sectors of the economy as protecting poor people from harm caused by globalization.[48] After the collapse of the Venezuelan economy and alleged erosion of its democratic institutions under Chávez' successor Nicolás Maduro, Klein and other people who had supported Chávez were criticized by neoconservatives James Kirchick[49] and Mark Milke.[50]

I just watched Shock Doctrine, it is pure marxist propaganda. It was made by a chick who has no idea how economics works. She didn't even finish her degree at the university of toronto in philosophy and literature. Disregard ANYTHING that this dumb woman says because it is just coming out of her ass. She is clearly extremely biased.

 

JoSuado

Sparrow
Ernesto Araújo, Bolsonaro's foreign minister, is giving many speeches saying that globalism, weaponized by cultural Marxism, is trying to dissolve christian values and destroy Western civilization. As I said before, he is a student of Olavo de Carvalho.
Mainstream media is furious. They say he uses undiplomatic words. They accuse him of antisemitism only because of the use of words.
Recently, in a private memorandum, Araújo proposed a christian alliance between Brazil, Russia and the US. He also praised Poland and Hungary, saying they are examples to Brazil.
 

Rocha

Ostrich
Gold Member
Goni said:
PharaohRa said:
Goni said:
PharaohRa said:
It does not matter whether Bolsonaro is a Zionist asskisser, but what matters is how we can use him as part of the nationalist wave to reclaim our countries, our heritage, our traditions and our people from the Cultural Marxist trash. Also, this is coming from someone who has no love for Zionists.

Haaaa

How can you claim your countries and heritage when in power is a zionist asslicker and vassal?

It does not make any sense and it is very clear this is a strategy of jews and their deep state to overrun and take control of "right" wing movements.

The same thing with the so called right wing newspapper Breitbart , which is a entirely zionist controlled newspapper and one of their endless means of media control.

It is called controlled opposition. Not just the liberal media but also the " conservative right wing" one too is under their control.

The same thing is with Trump.

The 3rd Reich was the only anti zionist state in history and the jews not just united everyone against Hitler , but for 75 years continue to demonize him in Hollywood.

The USA are the hammer the jews use to destroy and turn to ashes everyone which is a threat to their globalization policies.

Before it was the " british empire" whose bank and trade companies ( east and west indies) were entirely jewish controlled.

I don't think you understand how the name of the game works and I take it that you think of things in the here and now instead of considering the future. You see, many of these right wing leaders know that the (((usual suspects))) run things in this planet, and the best way to get them off their back is to pay lip service to them and do the little things to make them happy so that they can fix their countries to eventually tell the (((usual suspects))) to fuck off. Yes, Jair Bolsonaro is a civnat, but his actions have long term positive consequences for white and non-white Brazilians. This strategy is comparable to how the Russians had to pay lip service to the Mongols while building up the Russian Republic (and kingdom) before they had the ability to throw off the Mongol yoke.

I know very well how the game works and probably better than you think but we are not meassuring our dicks here.

When things are evident they simply are.

A brighting day is evident since the dawn of the sun.

Bolsonaro is going to fuck up the biggest tropical forest in the world for no reason, just goving it up the brazilian oligarchies linked to zionists.

He cut off the minimum salary in a country which is very poor in many parts of it. In a country with many no go zone areas where people are killed in prisons like animals.

Do you people really think that presidents in the USA are elected by the people??

Even if there is a real election does not matter because the deep state has chosen the both candidates.

How do you think that a jewish owned newspappaer such as Breitbart became so fast the backbone of the right wing and Trump in America?

Btw since ypu mentioned it , The Russians did not throw off the Mongol yoke.

It was the Mongol Empire that went down very fast in less than 100 years.

If the Mongol Empire would be more multi ethnic and career based such as the Ottoman Empire , where the the best and must warlike ethnicites( that converted to Islam)
controlled and extended the empire ( such as Albanians) the Mongol Empire would continue to rule the Russians for at least 300 years if not more.

Anyway lets give Bolsonaro 2 years and see how the things will go.

The guys who fought at Kulikovo don't agree with the bolded part.

 

JoSuado

Sparrow
SteveBannonOlavoDeCarvalho.png


Olavo de Carvalho and Steve Bannon are now friends and mutual admirers. That's what I've been dreaming for years. Fuck Dugin! Russia has no moral superiority. On the contrary, Russia has been a bad influence since the fall of the last Czar. Russia is now trying again to poison the West with its own viciousness, but that won't happen!
 

Sherman

Ostrich
I don't know anything about him, but this is enough to make me cringe. I'll stick with Dugin.


"The Portuguese Carvalho original coat of arms, as used by the Marquis of Pombal.
Carvalho or De Carvalho(Portuguese pronunciation: [kɐɾˈvaʎu]), meaning 'oak', is a Portuguese surname, also sometimes used as a Sephardic Jewish surname as well as by families with genetic Norman descent."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carvalho

"Olavo has propagated several hoaxes and unusual positions of view"

"Olavo has contested the ideas of Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein while misunderstanding their theories. He said Newton introduced a self-contradictoring thesis and spread the virus of "formidable stupidity"."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olavo_de_Carvalho
 

JoSuado

Sparrow
Sherman said:
I don't know anything about him, but this is enough to make me cringe. I'll stick with Dugin.


"The Portuguese Carvalho original coat of arms, as used by the Marquis of Pombal.
Carvalho or De Carvalho(Portuguese pronunciation: [kɐɾˈvaʎu]), meaning 'oak', is a Portuguese surname, also sometimes used as a Sephardic Jewish surname as well as by families with genetic Norman descent."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carvalho

"Olavo has propagated several hoaxes and unusual positions of view"

"Olavo has contested the ideas of Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein while misunderstanding their theories. He said Newton introduced a self-contradictoring thesis and spread the virus of "formidable stupidity"."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olavo_de_Carvalho

Both Newton's laws of motion and Einstein's theory of relativity are philosophical wrong from a classic philosophy point of view and the own authors know it.
And Wikipedia is owned by cultural marxits.
 

PharaohRa

Kingfisher
Rocha said:
Goni said:
PharaohRa said:
Goni said:
PharaohRa said:
It does not matter whether Bolsonaro is a Zionist asskisser, but what matters is how we can use him as part of the nationalist wave to reclaim our countries, our heritage, our traditions and our people from the Cultural Marxist trash. Also, this is coming from someone who has no love for Zionists.

Haaaa

How can you claim your countries and heritage when in power is a zionist asslicker and vassal?

It does not make any sense and it is very clear this is a strategy of jews and their deep state to overrun and take control of "right" wing movements.

The same thing with the so called right wing newspapper Breitbart , which is a entirely zionist controlled newspapper and one of their endless means of media control.

It is called controlled opposition. Not just the liberal media but also the " conservative right wing" one too is under their control.

The same thing is with Trump.

The 3rd Reich was the only anti zionist state in history and the jews not just united everyone against Hitler , but for 75 years continue to demonize him in Hollywood.

The USA are the hammer the jews use to destroy and turn to ashes everyone which is a threat to their globalization policies.

Before it was the " british empire" whose bank and trade companies ( east and west indies) were entirely jewish controlled.

I don't think you understand how the name of the game works and I take it that you think of things in the here and now instead of considering the future. You see, many of these right wing leaders know that the (((usual suspects))) run things in this planet, and the best way to get them off their back is to pay lip service to them and do the little things to make them happy so that they can fix their countries to eventually tell the (((usual suspects))) to fuck off. Yes, Jair Bolsonaro is a civnat, but his actions have long term positive consequences for white and non-white Brazilians. This strategy is comparable to how the Russians had to pay lip service to the Mongols while building up the Russian Republic (and kingdom) before they had the ability to throw off the Mongol yoke.

I know very well how the game works and probably better than you think but we are not meassuring our dicks here.

When things are evident they simply are.

A brighting day is evident since the dawn of the sun.

Bolsonaro is going to fuck up the biggest tropical forest in the world for no reason, just goving it up the brazilian oligarchies linked to zionists.

He cut off the minimum salary in a country which is very poor in many parts of it. In a country with many no go zone areas where people are killed in prisons like animals.

Do you people really think that presidents in the USA are elected by the people??

Even if there is a real election does not matter because the deep state has chosen the both candidates.

How do you think that a jewish owned newspappaer such as Breitbart became so fast the backbone of the right wing and Trump in America?

Btw since ypu mentioned it , The Russians did not throw off the Mongol yoke.

It was the Mongol Empire that went down very fast in less than 100 years.

If the Mongol Empire would be more multi ethnic and career based such as the Ottoman Empire , where the the best and must warlike ethnicites( that converted to Islam)
controlled and extended the empire ( such as Albanians) the Mongol Empire would continue to rule the Russians for at least 300 years if not more.

Anyway lets give Bolsonaro 2 years and see how the things will go.

The guys who fought at Kulikovo don't agree with the bolded part.


Rocha: +1000 for the video!

Goni

First off, you have been proven wrong about my statement that the Russians did not throw off the Mongol yoke. Implementation of the Russian strategy to make Brazil (and America) great again is appropriate in this situation. Second, here is a dirty little secret about the Ottoman Empire as to why it lasted so long in Eastern Europe as well as their Eastern European vassals: the Orthodox Serbians (and other Eastern European Orthodox kingdoms) chose to stuck with the Ottomans because if the Catholic Church was successful in leading a crusade to free them, the Church would take credit and for payment, they would have put considerable pressure on the Slavs to convert to Catholicism, no questions asked. The Ottomans, on the other hand, would let them keep their culture but they had to pay jizya and submit to the Devshirme system. Thus, for many of the Orthodox, if you couldn't beat the Turks, join them to keep your culture and traditions. This same thinking is what sabotaged Vlad Tepes from the ability to truly free Romania from the Turks (rather than ending up as a tributary), because of the rivalry between the Orthodox and Catholic churches.
 

Luvianka

Kingfisher
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