The Canada Political Thread

911

Peacock
Gold Member
I haven't even spent 10 seconds looking into the NS shooting, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was some kind of false flag/manchurian candidate like the Quebec mosque shooting, where the culprit had a deep state handler. Polytechnique was an organic event though, those happen only a couple of times in a century.


forestdweller said:
It's not that the fish are floating upside down en masse. They fail to reproduce, much like the millennial generation.

I like trailer park boys, but a picture of bubbles isn't an argument. Consumer culture is a blight on humanity, that doesn't make me a marxist.

Selenium is a natural effluent yes, in low doses.

That's what they say yes, Teck is a sneaky corporation and isn't to be trusted, from personal experience.

Look at the country vapid consumerism and resource pillaging got us. A bunch of braindead TV sportsball watchers only concerned with the next pornhub video. Fuck em.

We need new solutions, I'm not buying your neocon narrative. I agree its complicated, but tearing the earth apart to keep this system going won't work for much longer. What is unsustainable will not be sustained. Hippies have good points, rednecks have good points. Neither have a cohesive view that offers a future I want to live in.

Just my 2 cents.
You're misusing "neocon" here, neocons are basically trotskyite zionists.

Norway another northern country whose economy relies on resource extraction, has built a trillion dollar fund for its citizens through that "resource pillaging".

Vapid consumerism is driven by cultural forces, mostly materialism and the dissolution of families, which creates atomized individuals, not by resource extraction. It's a cultural malaise that has little to do with natural resource planning. This misguided confluence is a central trope in the cult of Gaia, it is rooted in eugenicist, malthusian globalist false ideology.

In fact, vapid consumerism has been growing while the middle class has been getting poorer, and the solutions that the astroturfed green movement will further exacerbate this poverty problem.
 

scotian

Crow
Gold Member
911 if you want to hear a good break down of the events that happened in Nova Scotia, Stefan Molyneux did an hour long video about it:

I read an article from an online paper in Halifax about male violence, the author threw around a bunch of leftist buzzwords and of course blamed it on white male privilege:

This mass shooting, and many mass killings witnessed throughout Canada’s history are connected to white men’s privilege, showing us that this hatred brings severe harm to many.
She then goes on to list three mass killings that occurred in Canada in the past 30 years:

Other mass murders like the one that started in Portapique have started with domestic violence and/or misogyny. There was the killing of 14 women at Ecole Polytechnique in Montreal in 1989. In 2014 in Edmonton, a shooter killed eight people, starting with his wife and children. The shooter had a criminal record dating back to 1987, including arrests for domestic assault. In 2019, a man used a van to kill 10 people on streets in Toronto. Most of the victims were women.
As soon as I read that paragraph I knew something was off and not all of these guys were white, a couple of minutes on Google proved this:

Ecole Polytechnique: Marc Lepine was born Gamil Rodrigue Liass Gharb, his dad was Algerian and used to beat the shit out of his wife in front of the kid. So Lepine was half white.

2014 Shooting Edmonton: The man responsible for killing eight people in Edmonton’s worst mass killing in recent history has been identified by sources as 53-year-old Phu Lam. Phu Lam, that must be a Newfie or Acadian name eh?

In 2019, a man used a van to kill 10 people on streets in Toronto. Most of the victims were women. Alek Minassian comes from an Armenian back ground, is that considered white these days?

So now they're banning some restricted firearms, I wonder if the Somalian and Jamaican gangbangers in Toronto will be turning theirs in or will the summer of 2020 see more driveby shootings like every other summer?
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Thanks Scotian.

The 2006 Dawson College shooter in Montreal, Kimveer Singh Gill, also wasn't white. He went on a semi-auto shooting rampage but (thankfully) only managed two kills, injuring another 18 people.
 

scotian

Crow
Gold Member
911 said:
Thanks Scotian.

The 2006 Dawson College shooter in Montreal, Kimveer Singh Gill, also wasn't white. He went on a semi-auto shooting rampage but (thankfully) only managed two kills, injuring another 18 people.
Oh ya forgot about that guy, then there was the Danforth shooter of Pakistani origin who shot up a restaurant and killed two women, I wonder why the author left him out?
 

presidentcarter

Ostrich
Gold Member
NoMoreTO said:
I was just listening to the announcement: Return your AR-15 in 2 years. No longer legal to use or shoot. Lets hope gun owners push back on this or the little twat gets voted out before that.

Justin comes on talking about Ecole polytechnique in his feminist sooth voice and how he cried and couldn't believe it was Canada.

Then he brings up Nova Scotia shooting, which was a case of RCMP incompetence, not a legal gun or PAL carrier.

After that Bill Blair comes in and tries to kiss gun owners asses. Then Crystia Freeland comes on and starts ringing off home violence and wife abuse stats.

What a shit show.
Yeah Cuckmaster Trudeau and his liberal cohorts are ruining that country.

And their "assault" style ban would likely include even 22s that have the AR style. Banning a 22! HAH :laugh: Get real. This is just sad.

Also they're apparently pushing handgun bans on the local gov't level.
 
presidentcarter said:
And their "assault" style ban would likely include even 22s that have the AR style. Banning a 22! HAH :laugh: Get real. This is just sad.

Also they're apparently pushing handgun bans on the local gov't level.
They already did this a few years ago.

This is the Mossberg Blaze line: a .22LR semi-auto blowback action rifle that is offered (with the identical action, mind you) in a variety of looks. Out of all these types, guess which one the RCMP decided to classify as 'prohibited'? If you guessed middle one on the right, you are correct!

Fuck this gay country.

 
One of my favourite voices of reason out there is an Edmonton Lawyer who specializes in firearms law; Ian Runkle. I follow his infrequent but quality posts on FB. I will be watching closely to see what he says in the coming weeks/months.
 
presidentcarter said:
Yeah Cuckmaster Trudeau and his liberal cohorts are ruining that country.

And their "assault" style ban would likely include even 22s that have the AR style. Banning a 22! HAH :laugh: Get real. This is just sad.

Also they're apparently pushing handgun bans on the local gov't level.
22s prohibited? I'll do you one better - how about websites?

In the list of firearms to be prohibited, they have included AR15.com not once, but TWICE; thus reinforcing the belief that it is absolutely some know-nothing dipshit googling 'scary guns' who created this list.

See for yourself: line item z.085
Regulations Amending the Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and Other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridge Magazines, Ammunition and Projectiles as Prohibited, Restricted or Non-Restricted: SOR/2020-96
 

Laner

Hummingbird
Gold Member
ed pluribus unum said:
presidentcarter said:
Yeah Cuckmaster Trudeau and his liberal cohorts are ruining that country.

And their "assault" style ban would likely include even 22s that have the AR style. Banning a 22! HAH :laugh: Get real. This is just sad.

Also they're apparently pushing handgun bans on the local gov't level.
22s prohibited? I'll do you one better - how about websites?

In the list of firearms to be prohibited, they have included AR15.com not once, but TWICE; thus reinforcing the belief that it is absolutely some know-nothing dipshit googling 'scary guns' who created this list.

See for yourself: line item z.085
Regulations Amending the Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and Other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridge Magazines, Ammunition and Projectiles as Prohibited, Restricted or Non-Restricted: SOR/2020-96
We have more than a few members here who work for the federal government.

They are rammed to bursting with diversity hires who barely speak English and are grateful to have an overpaid position so they would never dream of saying anything other than 'yess masta'.
 
Yuuup. They are importing a subservient liberal voter class.

I feel like Canada is becoming Brazil 2.0 by way of the Rhodesia treatment. I know many European Canadians who are completely cucked and sorry-pilled. Referring to themselves evil colonizers.

I have lost hope in this country, eastern Europe is where my sights are set now.
 

scotian

Crow
Gold Member
forestdweller said:
Yuuup. They are importing a subservient liberal voter class.

I feel like Canada is becoming Brazil 2.0 by way of the Rhodesia treatment. I know many European Canadians who are completely cucked and sorry-pilled. Referring to themselves evil colonizers.

I have lost hope in this country, eastern Europe is where my sights are set now.
Finally something we can agree on!
 

Emancipator

Hummingbird
Gold Member
I think many Canadians are going to be having "boating" accidents while fishing...

The First Nations reserves out east are going to continue to make out like bandits gun running.

Trudeau Liberals:"No one needs these guns to hunt" ... "First nations are excluded due to hunting needs"
 

Seadog

Kingfisher
So it looks like Prime Minister Dipshit will introduce an OIC (Order In Council) banning a whole raft of firearms as early as tomorrow. Primarily it will target what they want to call "assault rifles", basically any centrefire semi-automatic with a detachable box magazine. So there go your M14/Norinco M305s, your Ruger Mini-14s, your VZ58s and of course anything and everything even vaguely resembling an AR.

Below, a relevant infographic. Also, IRunGuns Inc had a good post on their FB page, it's quite a long read but well laid out and on-point. PM me if you want the full text, but here's the intro:
Wow, when I first heard about this I was annoyed, but now that I've had time to digest it and actually read some of the text, I'm thoroughly disgusted. I'm not even really a gun guy. I have my license and occasionally go plinking, but I don't own any guns. The fact the democratic process was sidestepped is equally if not more disgusting.

The PM is using intentionally misleading language such as "assault style" and "military style" to group guns which are functionally identical to any hunting rifle (since fully auto and mags bigger than 5 have been banned for decades) with fully automatic military rifles with 100 round drum clips - because they look similar. Forums on GnM are alight with people saying "good job! no one needs fully automatic weapons!". These people are ignorant and intentionally not trying to educate themselves on the matter since they simply hate guns.

The media of course jumped on board highlighting the 8 scariest looking guns from the 1500 listed (all of which are limited to 5 shot clips, and semi auto action), and focused on the "assault" part. This is an attack on appearances, and the more benign versions of extremely common guns like the Mini 14 ranch are similarly getting thrown under the bus. This is your typical wooden stock rifle that can be found on thousands of ranches, farms and trappers.

It's a hundred million dollars of tax payer money being spent to buy back guns which simply look scary. After which people can take the money, and go buy another gun which looks different, but is the same caliber, same action, same firing rate, same capacity and similar range/power/accuracy.

It's like banning Toyota corollas, but then giving people money to go buy a Ford Focus, because they don't like Toyota. This isn't an attack on function, but appearances, and thousands of perfectly normal wooden stock guns that you'd find at your grandfather's farm are similarly getting attacked.

These are the sorts of guns that trudeau and the media are focusing on:5888.jpg
Scary as anything right?

And these are the ones getting grouped in, which there are likely 100x as many of out there:

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Same gun, same function. Same same same. Trudeau is counting on people's irrational fear, ignorance, and laziness to actually look at the democratic process or read the text of this, exacerbated by the most alarmist language he could think of, to grab many normal hunting guns. I've never been more ashamed to be loosely tied to this fool via nationhood.
 
As bad as the current raft of prohibitions seem, I think they deliberately included the 2-year "amnesty" period to give people a false sense of having enough time to do something. My prediction is that the coming months will see a big spike in the number of "red flag"-type confiscations. For safety, of course.

Emancipator, regarding the "First Nations" exception: my understanding is that the the exception only applies to rifles that were previously non-restricted, e.g. Mini-14, and that after the 2-year "amnesty" they still become prohibited. In other words, Mini-14 owner not on reserve has to keep it locked in a safe effective immediately, Mini-14 owner on reserve still gets to hunt with it for another 2 years. I like to "gunsplain" that idiocy in the following manner: Trudeau introduces gun ban, explaining that these weapons (like the Mini-14) are not for hunting, and serve only to kill people. In the same announcement , the gov't deplores the gun violence that happens on reserves. Then they announce the exception that will allow natives on reserves to keep using their Mini-14s. Effectively, the gov't is facilitating continued gun violence on reserves.
 

Emancipator

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Thanks ed, that was also explained to me by a buddy, first nations arms are also in the Liberal's sights.

I'm not even a gun guy, but am willing to donate to any related Canadian Advocacy group fighting this.

Whose recommended
CCFR?

Decades of restrictions and laws on the "privilege" of gun ownership, nothing major with Canadian sourced guns since Polytechnique, doesn't stop them. Really a good warning and example to our neighbours down south, never give an inch, they'll keep coming for them.

If you think about it it's "politik", people forgot immigrants in the GTA liked Harper for being "tough on crime", the current CPC/Scheer are just useless weenies for the most part, some bonehead decision making.
Liberals instead of going via judicial route tough on crime they get their brownie points "scary guns BAD", the CPC could have easily countered by going back to Harper's tough on crime strategy that was hated by the left anyways instead of failing frame control in constant opposition by countering the Liberals instead of offering a different choice.

Couldn't an OIC easily be clawed back?
 

Tresdus

Woodpecker
So the whole gun ban goes a lot further than most people realize. All guns above 20mm bore diameter are banned which means most 12GA and 10GA shotguns with a removable choke are banned now. One of the most prominent firearms lawyer wrote about it here:


The fucked up thing is (and this answers Emancipators question as well), they made it illegal with Bill C71 to revert prohibited guns. This can only be done through legislation now. This means there are thousands of hunters out there right now using prohibited shotguns and not realizing it.
 
Emancipator: Right now I'm putting more money towards CCFR but have also renewed my membership with the NFA. In terms of bang-for-the-buck the CCFR is very active, the NFA does not appear to be very effective but I believe a unified front approach is better. NFA probably thought all those "Thin Blue Line" and "RIP Constable whatever" posts they made after the Nova Scotia shootings would buy them some slack from the RCMP, yeah right: good luck with that.

The problem with the "boating accident" thing is that, as of May 1st you're not allowed to transport your now-prohibited firearm outside your home. So they may not lay hands on your AR/Mini-14/whatever, but they will charge you with illegally transporting it (by your own admission) so you're hooped either way. In retrospect the best scenario would have been to buy the NR AR variant or the Mini-14 because as we see, registration = confiscation. Every. Damned. Time.
 

Seadog

Kingfisher
The thing with the shotguns might actually be a blessing in disguise, since it's at the point that the more people who get riled up, the better. Sadly some folks have the attitude of "Well as long as they're not coming after *my* guns".

The ironic thing is, as someone who's probably about a 5.5 on the gun nut scale with 0 being "ban them all" and 10 being "I have an armoury", I've spent the last few days learning more about guns than I did in my course, and now I want one out of spite. Trudeau managed to piss off all gun owners, all fence sitters like myself, all champions of democracy, and even a good portion of the gun control crowd who see the absolute futility of only banning a handful of guns but not a bunch of functionally identical ones because they look scary.

Sadly, that's still a tiny minority of folks, the ignorant masses of the big cities who applaud whenever the words "assault" "weapon" and "banned" go together are still the majority.

CCFR has announced they're initiating a charter challenge and have retained a Calgary law firm.

An Alberta MP has launched a parliamentary petition about how stupid this is/democratic process. Keep in mind this isn't some silly petition.org nonsense but actually on house of commons website initiated by an MP.


I don't know if it's confirmation bias, but I've read a bunch or articles from both sides, and it seems at least among people who aren't idiots, that people of all stripes are getting riled up about this.
 
Seadog there appears to be a big divide in Quebec between the sport shooters and general "hands off my guns" types, and the once-a-year goes hunting, 'you don't need an AR15' types, collectively and disparagingly referred to as "Fudds". There is also a significant amount of anger from the former directed at the Francos who voted Bloc, thus enabling a Liberal minority and a Bloc leader in Parliament who will go along with any gun control measure, no matter how extreme.

I've said it previously, right now CCFR is taking the lead in fighting this, but I still threw some $ at NFA and may subscribe to CSSA for good measure.

I don't know if you got a PAL or an RPAL but my recommendation is: buy a non-restricted. Because registration=confiscation, and there's no way they're stopping with the May 1st list.
 
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