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FactusIRX

Robin
Anybody cast a ballot for the CPC leadership race?

I pegged O'Toole as most likely choice and Sloan as ideal candidate. Although Lewis seems good she shouldn't be in charge. My fear is that there are enough soft "conservatives" who will vote Lewis to try and prove to Liberals that they're not racist and she will force a run-off.

Ideally I would like to see Mad Max do something but the next election to come up (whenever that may be) is not the time to split the right, so it'll be a question of holding my nose and voting "C" (again).
I voted 1. Sloan 2. O'Toole. I fear you're right about Lewis, but I also think the fake conservatives will vote McKay (who is worse) and the social conservative vote will coalesce around O'Toole in later rounds. Sloan is the only candidate that I would vote for in the general, but I could stomach an O'Toole PM.
 
I voted 1. Sloan 2. O'Toole. I fear you're right about Lewis, but I also think the fake conservatives will vote McKay (who is worse) and the social conservative vote will coalesce around O'Toole in later rounds. Sloan is the only candidate that I would vote for in the general, but I could stomach an O'Toole PM.
FWIW my picks were 1)O'Toole 2)Sloan 3)Lewis 4)blank. Perhaps naively optimistic but I'm hoping enough people see through MacKay's charade.
 

FactusIRX

Robin
FWIW my picks were 1)O'Toole 2)Sloan 3)Lewis 4)blank. Perhaps naively optimistic but I'm hoping enough people see through MacKay's charade.
I hope so, too. He's indistinguishable from Trudeau. He'll pick up votes in Atlantic Canada, Toronto, and perhaps, Quebec, but I don't see anyone in Western Canada or rural Ontario voting for him.
 

lutak

Newbie
The conservative party seems to be jumping on board with pride in sodomy. I just walked by the official office for the yukon conservative party headquarters where they have a pride flag hanging in their window, mind you it's not our national or territorial flag... yet. But it doesn't stop there, the NDP was not to be out done with the more inclusive pride flag including black and brown. What exactly does the conservative party intend to conserve? While our rights are stripped daily they are promoting good traditional family values such as pride in sodomy and gay marriage.
 
@NoMoreTO
If I recall correctly, you wrote in another thread that you 'currently live in a small Ontario town'. (Italics added)

The following may be of interest:

http://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/disparate-...ial-profiling-and-racial-discrimination-black

Looks like some 'certain', much needed police reforms will soon be coming to the Toronto Police Service in your Province, courtesy of the "OHRC". (Aside: I remember JPeterson making clear his disdain for this particular organization.)
 

LeBeau

Ostrich
Gold Member
Anyone have any thoughts on the future of the PPC? Espicially considering we may have a snap election in the future...
 
What does this mean? I know who CPC and Bloc are, but what deal do you want them to cut? The way you wrote this makes me think it's something that would be completely obvious to a Canadian.
To cut a deal aka to form a coalition to overthrow the Government via a confidence vote since the Liberals are currently a Minority Government.
This; it is of importance in that the Conservative Party of Canada (CPC) and Bloq Québecois (BQ or Bloq) are typically thought of or perceived as having completely different goals or philosophies. CPC is, well, conservative (in name, at least) and the BQ typically pursue big government, socialist, statist forms of governing, as well as separation or independance of Quebec. In the face of the hopelessly corrupt Liberal Party of Canada (LPC) currently in minority there is the possibility (albeit remote) that the CPC/LPC could find some common ground and form a coalition to defeat the LPC.
 

Laner

Hummingbird
Gold Member
The Bloq are culturally conservative, so they could push the Keep The Borders Closed routine.

Also, seems that Quebec is pretty anti Vax and anti mask. They love themselves their freedoms to live carefree. Not sure if they are getting hit yet by lack of western transfers, but if the west keeps getting kicked while they are down, its gonna happen, and soon.

Quebec needs a confident west. Without them, they lose out on their amazing quality of life.
 
The Bloq are culturally conservative, so they could push the Keep The Borders Closed routine.

Also, seems that Quebec is pretty anti Vax and anti mask. They love themselves their freedoms to live carefree. Not sure if they are getting hit yet by lack of western transfers, but if the west keeps getting kicked while they are down, its gonna happen, and soon.

Quebec needs a confident west. Without them, they lose out on their amazing quality of life.
Quebecers have been allowed to maintain their cultural identity without being absorbed (as much) into the Globohomo universal identity; this could be the saving grace of La Belle Province. There have been surprisingly large anti-mask rallies in downtown Montreal the last 2 Saturdays, which is encouraging because for the most part everywhere I go the normies seem to be doubling down on the mask wearing.
 

Nemausus

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Liberal (156)
Conservative (121)
Bloc Québécois (32)
New Democratic (24)
Green (3)
Independent (2)

Not enough seats for a CPC/Bloc coalition. NDP and Greens won't side with Cons.

60-70% of Canadian voters are terrified of the CPC. For the CPC to break through and keep that number closer to 60% than 70%, it takes a special combination of:
  • A solid CPC party leader (Harper, not Scheer)
  • Liberal fatigue and accumulated scandals (Sponsorship scandal back in the day, plenty with this current government)
  • An uninspiring Liberal leader (Ignatieff, Dion)
Right now we have the WE scandal and the chaos of a Finance Minister being replaced in the middle of a historic economic crisis, but we don't have a strong CPC leader or an uninspiring Liberal leader. Yes, everyone on RVF can see how awful Trudeau is, but normie Canadians compare him to Trump and feel sweet relief.


Two thirds of Canadian voters would prefer to have the type of men seen in the photo above than a scary CPC leader. Even with all of their scandals, a stong majority of voters feel it's better than having Conservatives back in power.

We'll see who the CPC party elects as a new leader, but I'm not too optimistic.
 

uncledick

Woodpecker
Diversity is our strength! Or so J-media would say.



Twenty-five years is a long time to run a business. During that time, Geoff Shoesmith has seen a lot as owner of Trailside, a family-run gas and convenience store in the tiny village of Walsh on the Trans-Canada Highway, a stone's throw from the Saskatchewan border.

Shoesmith has seen owners and operators of the gas station just down the road from his store come and go, but he never imagined what used to be a fairly collegial competition for customers would turn to violence, nor did he ever think the RCMP would have to get involved or that he'd be sent to the hospital with a concussion and a black eye.

The man charged in the attack is his main competitor, the owner of Walsh Save On Gas, which is directly across the road from Trailside.



The owner of Save On Gas in Walsh, Alta., has been charged with assaulting his main business rival, the owner of Trailside gas. Both stations are on the TransCanada highway just west of the Saskatchewan border. (Bryan Labby/CBC)
The five-second-long beating was captured on crystal clear, colour video. It appears to show Shoesmith's business adversary, Anwar Kamaran, run into the store and behind the counter where he punched Shoesmith in the arm and face.

Shoesmith tried to get away by climbing onto the counter near the cash register, but he was struck in the face and fell to the floor. Another camera angle captured at least four more blows.

The attacker, wearing a white T-shirt and blue jeans ran out of the store in full view of at least one person who was in the store at the time.

WATCH | Security cameras capture the gas station attack:


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Security footage of Walsh gas station attack
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Security footage taken inside Trailside gas station in Walsh, Alta., on Aug. 9, 2020, shows owner Geoff Shoesmith attacked. 0:25
Kamaran has sent several short videos to the CBC that show people expressing their sentiments as satisfied customers, but he has declined several requests for comment about the ongoing rivalry or the charges he is facing in relation to Shoesmith.

Geoff Shoesmith said he and Kamaran were always at odds but he can't believe their business rivalry has taken such a dramatic turn.

Neither can the tiny community.

'A crazy situation'
It was hard to convince anyone to talk publicly about this "gas war," as they said they're too afraid of what might happen if their names were published.

One woman who was driving through from Swift Current, Sask., said the incident is a hot topic on both sides of the border.

"It's unbelievable ... it's a crazy situation," said Bernice Bonneau, who had stopped in to buy some gas and snacks.

"It's gone beyond anything in this part of the world," said John Smith of nearby Maple Creek, Sask. He's known Shoesmith and his family for years and can't make sense of the battle between the two business owners.

"It's gotta be tough for Geoff and his family, right?" said Smith.



Anwar Kamaran is the owner of Save On Gas in Walsh. He's been charged with assaulting members of the Shoesmith family, who own a gas station located next to his. (Alberta Liberals)
Adding more interest and intrigue to the story is Kamaran's background as a one-time candidate for the Liberals in the 2019 provincial election. He unsuccessfully ran for the party in the riding of Cypress-Medicine Hat.

The Alberta Liberals said Kamaran, who was pictured with leader David Khan during the campaign, is no longer associated with the party and refused any further comment.

Kamaran's bio on the party website at the time said he is an accomplished musician, bodybuilder and kickboxer who speaks seven languages.

According to Shoesmith, Kamaran took over the gas station in March 2019, and tensions between the two men quickly rose.

First encounter
Shoesmith said it was in early March 2019, when he closed up his store and drove over to Kamaran's gas station to see how much he was charging for fuel because the outside sign was turned off.

He said it wasn't unusual for his competitor to bump up the price after Shoesmith closed for the night.



Geoff Shoesmith says he was attacked in his gas station by Kamaran, his main business rival, earlier this month. Kamaran has also been charged with assaulting Shoesmith's wife and son. (Submitted by Shoesmith family)
He said Kamaran came out, told him to get off the property and attempted to spit at him, so he quickly left. Shoesmith said that was the first time the two met. He said Kamaran phoned the police to report the incident but no charges against either man were laid.

"So we just stayed away from there after that," said Shoesmith.

The family said several incidents continued "every day," with rude gestures, name-calling, threats and phone calls.

Gas pumps vandalized
Shoesmith said in early February someone vandalized his gas pumps with what he believes was a hammer. He said all of the glass covers were smashed and it took months to get them fixed.

Luckily, he said, the pumps still worked and he was able to continue to sell gas. He said the incident happened during a snowstorm so the footage from the security camera wasn't helpful in identifying the person responsible.

Shoesmith said Kamaran has been operating as an independent retailer after the Petro-Canada signs were removed from the gas station in late 2019.



Shoesmith suffered a concussion and bruising after the attack in his gas station earlier this month. The owner of a nearby gas station has been charged with assault causing bodily harm. (Submitted by Shoesmith family)
He said Kamaran had shut down his business for about a month before reopening sometime in March 2020, right before the COVID-19 pandemic had been declared.

Shoesmith said gas was already selling between 59 and 65 cents per litre, but Kamaran was offering fuel for 34.9 cents per litre. The low price was tied to a promotion where customers were asked to spend $5 in the convenience store.

Counsel to commit assault, uttering threats
Around the same time, Kamaran was arrested for allegedly uttering threats, however the charge was changed to counselling someone to carry out an assault. Police information stated the incident occurred on or about March 30. It stated Kamaran counselled "[someone with the initials JC] to commit the indictable offence of assault."

Shoesmith said he was advised by the RCMP on March 31 that Kamaran had been charged and that he and his family were the targets of the plot.


Kamaran was ordered to have no contact with the Shoesmith family and "JC."

On June 11, a stay of proceedings was entered after the Crown told the CBC the charge "did not meet the prosecution test," which includes reasonable likelihood of conviction and public interest.

Weekend assaults
On Saturday, August 8, Kamaran allegedly grabbed the arm of Shoesmith's wife while she was in her vehicle near the two gas stations. Carol Shoesmith reported the incident to the RCMP.

The next day, Kamaran allegedly assaulted Geoff Shoesmith's son and a short time later was seen on video entering the gas station where he allegedly attacked Geoff.

Kamaran faces a total of six charges including assault, assault causing bodily harm and three counts of breaching court orders that he stay away from the Shoesmith family.

Kamaran has been released from custody with conditions that he stay away from the Shoesmiths and that he surrender a .303 rifle. He is scheduled to appear in a Medicine Hat court on Sept. 16.

Shoesmith said he lives in fear knowing that Kamaran is no longer in custody and is back in their small community.

Kamaran's residence is located behind his gas station.


"We're in fear for our lives," said Shoesmith. "We feel the justice system has let us down."

He said despite court ordered conditions in the past, Kamaran allegedly continues to have contact with the Shoesmiths.

Shoesmith said he's trying to put that out of his mind.

"I worry about my business, my family. We're going to be diligent in our security and everything. That's all I can do."
 

SwordfishTrombonist

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Erin O’Toole wins federal Conservative leadership race


Erin O’Toole, an Ontario member of Parliament, defeated Conservative heavyweight Peter MacKay and was named leader of the Conservative Party early Monday.

Mr. O’Toole spent 12 years in the military and 10 years as a corporate lawyer. He ran a pointed, message-driven campaign and embraced becoming the inheritor of Stephen Harper’s party. This was Mr. O’Toole’s second time running for leadership of the party; he was defeated in 2017 by Andrew Scheer. Mr. O’Toole won with 57 per cent of the vote on the third ballot. “Today you have given me a clear mission to unite our party, to champion our Conservative principles, to show Canadians what we know so well — that Justin Trudeau and his team are failing our great country,” Mr. O’Toole said in his victory speech shortly after 1:00 a.m. ET.

“We must continue to point out Liberal failings and corruption but we also must show Canadians our vision for a stronger, prosperous and more united Canada,” he said.

After thanking Conservative supporters for electing him as leader, Mr. O’Toole aimed his message at a broader audience, telling viewers that regardless of their background, circumstance or political affiliation, they have a place in the Conservative Party.

“It is time for many Liberal and NDP voters to socially distance themselves from these out of touch parties,” he said, adding that it’s time for more Canadians to consider the Conservative Party again.


Toronto lawyer Leslyn Lewis, who is relatively new to politics, came third in the race and Conservative MP Derek Sloan, who also had the support of social conservatives, placed fourth.

The leadership results were announced hours later than planned because thousands of ballots had been sliced by a dysfunctional mail-opening machine.

Cory Hann, a spokesperson for the Conservative Party, said the envelope-opening machines sliced through “a few thousand” ballots during the counting process. Volunteers then had to mark the ballots that had been affected as scrutineers from the leadership campaigns kept watch.

The party said it received 174,849 ballots by mail. Party members began counting them early on Sunday morning, and the first round of results was initially scheduled to be revealed around 6:30 p.m. ET, but the time continued to be pushed back.

As the leadership contenders waited to hear the results, Mr. Scheer, in his final speech as outgoing leader, told party members to move past the division of the last 10 months and focus on how to defeat the governing Liberals.



“After tonight, let’s all come together and focus on the things that unite us,” Mr. Scheer said. “We must stay squarely concentrated on working together and focusing on the many things we share in common.”

Mr. MacKay congratulated Mr. O’Toole on a “hard-fought campaign” on Twitter. “It’s now time for our party and movement to come together, and to focus on what’s most important: ensuring our country gets moving in the right direction again,” he wrote.

Suzanne Cowan, president of the Liberal Party, issued a statement congratulating Mr. O’Toole, but also said she hopes he reconsiders continuing to push “the same policies of Stephen Harper and Andrew Scheer that he also proposed in the leadership campaign.”

Mr. O’Toole could find himself running to become Prime Minister in a matter of months — if not weeks. As Mr. Trudeau’s minority Liberal government faltered under the weight of the WE Charity controversy and the sudden departure of Finance Minister Bill Morneau, the Prime Minister asked for Parliament to be prorogued until late September. When it returns, the Speech from the Throne will trigger a confidence vote, and depending on the outcome of that vote, possibly a general election.

Even if an election doesn’t come soon, Mr. O’Toole will take the helm during a rocky time in Ottawa. As the governing Liberals turn their attention to economic recovery on the heels of the pandemic lockdowns, the Conservatives will seek to assert themselves as the country’s voice of fiscal discipline.

Mr. O’Toole takes over from Mr. Scheer who was elected in 2017 but failed to defeat Mr. Trudeau’s Liberals in the 2019 election. Mr. Scheer resigned after the disappointing election loss that created division within the party but also after revelations that he used party money to pay for his children’s private school tuition.


Mr. Scheer’s resignation set the leadership race in motion and a contest was officially underway in January, with contestants having until the end of February to enter but also needing to meet criteria set by the party to qualify. Some Conservative heavyweights, including Rona Ambrose and Jean Charest, considered entering the race but ultimately decided against it.

The campaign lasted much longer than anticipated, having been temporarily halted at the end of March because of the pandemic. The race started again in April, with candidates campaigning primarily online and at physically distanced events.

Mr. MacKay and Mr. O’Toole had both been considered the front-runners in the race, based on their profiles and fundraising numbers. However, Conservatives have been surprised by the performance Ms. Lewis — specifically her fundraising prowess. Ms. Lewis, a social conservative, holds a PhD in law and a master’s degree in environmental studies.

Mr. Sloan, the member of Parliament for Hastings-Lennox and Addington in eastern Ontario, courted the fringes of the party during the race. He was known throughout the campaign for making controversial comments. In April, Mr. Sloan refused to apologize after questioning Chief Public Health Officer Theresa Tam’s loyalty to the country, asking in a Facebook video: “Does she work for Canada or for China?” He later said his comments were “deliberately” mischaracterized by the Liberals.

Mr. MacKay raised more money than his opponents, with nearly $3.1-million in donations. Mr. O’Toole raised $2.5-million, Ms. Lewis’s team said it passed the $2-million mark and Mr. Sloan raised $852,000, according to data from two interim reports filed with Elections Canada earlier this month.

Mr. O’Toole may also find himself preparing for an election in the fall. The fact that the Prime Minister has prorogued Parliament and set a date for a confidence vote after the Throne Speech shows that the Liberals are open to risking an election, according to pollster Nik Nanos.


Mr. Nanos said the Liberal advantage over Conservatives at the height of the pandemic has eroded with the WE Charity controversy and that “anger and pessimism directed against the government in Ottawa is on the rise.” Mr. Nanos said the WE controversy has turned some voters off from even considering voting Liberal.
 

hervens

Sparrow
Quebecers have been allowed to maintain their cultural identity without being absorbed (as much) into the Globohomo universal identity; this could be the saving grace of La Belle Province. There have been surprisingly large anti-mask rallies in downtown Montreal the last 2 Saturdays, which is encouraging because for the most part everywhere I go the normies seem to be doubling down on the mask wearing.
Cultural identity when it comes to the french language and foreign immigration policies maybe (they don't like the hijab), but it really stops there.
They've rejected everything and absolutely anything that has to do with religion and their catholic heritage.
The LGBTQ community is rampant here, even in the suburbs where you'd think there would be a bit more social conservatism.
There's also a strong feminist influence, I believe one of the only provinces in Canada where where it's pretty much illegal for the wife to take the husband's family name after marriage, unless the couples pay some exorbitant fee. But then again, there isn't really a marriage mentality here to begin with, couples simply tend to live together and call it a day.
 

Nemausus

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Large protest today in Ottawa at Parliament Hill against the ongoing Covid restrictions. I stopped by for a half hour.

I was impressed by the amount of people present. Many of the protesters were from Quebec. Lots of Quebec flags being flown, lots of French being spoken.

Looks as if the mainstream media is going to ignore this protest. I didn't see any TV cameras or reporters while I was there (I was looking for them). So far nothing on the Twitter accounts of the mainstream outlets in the city.

Here's a video clip and photo I took:



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Some Tweets:



 
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