The carnivore diet thread

Are you on the carnivore diet?

  • *grunts in the affirmative*

    Votes: 46 64.8%
  • No, I am gey.

    Votes: 25 35.2%

  • Total voters
    71

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
That's interesting. I've been craving salts but didn't really stop to think why. I've broken the diet several times for potato chips and I think it was the salt on them that I was really after. I've also been eating boiled eggs with a lot more salt on them than I'd normally use.
 

Hannibal

Ostrich
Gold Member
Leonard D Neubache said:
That's interesting. I've been craving salts but didn't really stop to think why. I've broken the diet several times for potato chips and I think it was the salt on them that I was really after. I've also been eating boiled eggs with a lot more salt on them than I'd normally use.

Here is a fairly good image that grants some guidelines.

In the spirit of the carnivore diet, I don't measure anything like the image suggests, but I do adjust the amount of electrolytes that I get depending on which symptom I have.

keto-flu-electrolyte-imbalance-elctrolytes.jpg
 
Finally - the other side is producing grassroots-financed documentaries not supported by the establishment:


Within 15 minutes you already have the whole gamut of arguments for upping your meat intake.
 

Hannibal

Ostrich
Gold Member
Anyone have any solid recipes to cook large cheap cuts of meat like pork shoulder?

I see it on sale here and there for very cheap, but every time I attempt to cook it, it comes out disgusting.

Last time i tried it with the instant pot thinking the pressure would tenderize it and it came out all rubbery and waterlogged. Shredding it and putting it in the oven for a time made it tolerable, but not good. Maybe I need to treat it more like a brisket and just stick with low and slow?

I have found some solid recipes for carnivore diet deserts and they are also simple. I can post those later if anyones interested.

I have got most of the other meats I would care to cook nailed, mainly everything beef related and occasionally chicken wings/drumsticks, but the pork roast eludes me.
 
Hannibal said:
Anyone have any solid recipes to cook large cheap cuts of meat like pork shoulder?

I see it on sale here and there for very cheap, but every time I attempt to cook it, it comes out disgusting.

Last time i tried it with the instant pot thinking the pressure would tenderize it and it came out all rubbery and waterlogged. Shredding it and putting it in the oven for a time made it tolerable, but not good. Maybe I need to treat it more like a brisket and just stick with low and slow?

I have found some solid recipes for carnivore diet deserts and they are also simple. I can post those later if anyones interested.

I have got most of the other meats I would care to cook nailed, mainly everything beef related and occasionally chicken wings/drumsticks, but the pork roast eludes me.

I can't make pork well - it's a tricky meat anyway. The only thing about pork that I love is spare-ribs, but only the ones that take hours to make in the oven. You could have it in some sort of gulash as well - here also hours of cooking that will release the flavour. Some recipes mix beef and pork in a slow-cooked pot.

Very few carnis rely on pork from what I know, though I personally could eat well-done spareribs every other day, but I don't want to do them.
 

Hannibal

Ostrich
Gold Member
Here in the midwest i can get pork shoulder for less than 2 dollars a pound. Since I dont drink anymore, Ive found that bringing a large cooked meat dish to house parties makes you popular by default, which offsets the relative weirdness of being a dead sober zero carb dieter in an area where everyone else is binge drinking and slamming pizza.

Im not going to eat exclusively pork, but a little variety is nice. I know a lot of diseased people who could benefit greatly from this way of eating but a perceived lack of variety scares off many. This is hilarious as much of the variety I see people eat are reconfigured corn based derivatives.
 

redbeard

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Another good option is pork ribs. Sometimes they're on sale at my local grocer for $2-$3/lb. It's not always that affordable and can be pretty volatile, but when it's on sale I buy a few racks.

I've also learned you can cook mean ribs in the oven by doing 300 deg F and baking for four hours or so. Surprisingly delicious.
 

Enigma

Hummingbird
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
Hannibal said:
Anyone have any solid recipes to cook large cheap cuts of meat like pork shoulder?

Slow cooker pulled pork

You can ditch the stuff (veggies/bbq sauce) that doesn't fit with your diet. But I'm not strictly carnivore, so I'd probably leave the onions and garlic in. You don't really need the beer either; you could substitute or even just cook them dry -- but you need something under the meat, like a potatoes/sweet potatoes, to keep them from burning. Then just toss the potatoes if you don't want them.

Obviously I wouldn't eat it with rice/buns anymore either, but tastes great by itself or with eggs.

One of my favorite meals lately is just ground pork shoulder patties. Make the pork into patties, season with salt and pepper, cook until it's got a nice brown on each side but still juicy in the middle (the less you flip it, the better).

These taste amazing on the grill, though you lose some of the fat, but still good in the pan.

Personally, I love pork, and even prefer it to beef in most ways. I barely eat chicken these days; too little calories and fat to protein, and it's just so bland unless you do something special with it.
 

redbeard

Hummingbird
Gold Member
The Catalyst said:
I wish I didn't have to eat chicken but I'm too poor to consistently afford meat =(

How much do you spend on food each month? How much do you spend on chicken?

I find in most cases this excuse to be weak. Sure there are some people who are in very tight financial situations and really can't afford more than $200/month for groceries. However most of the time it's people spending $300 on a car note, $2k in rent, and $200 in video games, Netflix, or eating out that are complaining about the cost of red meat.

At my local Costco you can get ribeyes for $9/lb. For most men, a pound is enough for one meal. $9 by itself is more affordable than even one meal at Chipotle, which is like $11 for a rice bowl with double chicken.

Another problem is many people don't financially prioritize their food. If you looked at how much I spend on groceries, you'd probably shriek. It's much more than the average American. But, I don't care, because I choose to splurge on quality meat and oils, while being monastically frugal in other areas. Some people spend $100/month on massages, I prefer to have an abundance of steak at my disposal.

I'm not saying that you're being irresponsible (we don't know). But, there are plenty of ways to make this diet work for you.
 
If I'm doing calculations/tracking right I'm spending about US$160 on food/month. About $35 would be chicken if I ate entirely chicken as my meat source(I'm not actually carnivore, I'm eating rice and veg and fruit also). Double that at a minimum if I'm eating beef or pork or fish. My rent's $285. That's pretty much the majority of my expenses
 

Hannibal

Ostrich
Gold Member
Yeah if I wasnt making decent money, I never would have tried this diet.

However, after almost two months on it, all I can say is that Im saving tons of money on it, as my appetite has gone down some and I have lost 17 lbs (all fat and water weight). I also dont go out to eat anymore (not that it matters with the covid 19) because I never get hungry, probably only eat once or twice a day tops.

Ground beef can be found here (the fatty stuff) for 2.50 a pound.

2 pounds of that a day is $150 a month, a joke compared to what most spend.

If I wanted to stretch this even further, I could get eggs for $1.30 a dozen, which equals out to approximately 850 calories (an easy meal).

Chicken drumsticks and thighs are cheap as shit and you can even turn the bones into broth for more calories.

I havent quite figured out pork yet, but pork shoulder regularly goes on sale for next to nothing.

Chicken can be made into a soup with a butter cream sauce and that would also be inexpensive.

Sure, compare it to beans and rice and this calculation looks extravagant.

As anyone who has ever subsisted on that shit knows, youre never really satisfied on beans and rice alone.

Knowing what I know now and having tried both, I would never go back to any sort of "plant based" grain heavy vegan trash diet ever again. Just the difference in the amount of brainfog I have is truly night and day.
 

Enigma

Hummingbird
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
The Catalyst said:
If I'm doing calculations/tracking right I'm spending about US$160 on food/month. About $35 would be chicken if I ate entirely chicken as my meat source(I'm not actually carnivore, I'm eating rice and veg and fruit also). Double that at a minimum if I'm eating beef or pork or fish. My rent's $285. That's pretty much the majority of my expenses

Fatty pork is 50 to 100% more calorie dense than chicken.
 
Enigma said:
The Catalyst said:
If I'm doing calculations/tracking right I'm spending about US$160 on food/month. About $35 would be chicken if I ate entirely chicken as my meat source(I'm not actually carnivore, I'm eating rice and veg and fruit also). Double that at a minimum if I'm eating beef or pork or fish. My rent's $285. That's pretty much the majority of my expenses

Fatty pork is 50 to 100% more calorie dense than chicken.

I'll go ahead and prioritise pork if that's the case...
 

Hannibal

Ostrich
Gold Member
Cooked up a pork shoulder, set on high at 425 Fahrenheit for 20 minutes, then put it at 250 for seven hours in the roasting pan. Set the thermometer in it until the center was 180 Fahrenheit.

So I cooked it low and slow, did it right and all that.

Can't say I'm a fan. Bacon is OK, pork rinds are decent for a portable snack and breading substitute. I just can't get into pork, apparently. Kind of a chewy, slimy meat. I dunno. Things taste a bit different on the carnivore diet and pork roast is no exception, it seems. I also quit smoking recently so it is possible that my sense of smell can now pick up androsterone, which would explain why the pork had a piss like smell to it.
 
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