The Catholic Church thread

Errol

Pigeon
New low for Catholics..
In fairness to the church, Catholic Charities is more a lay charitable organization with Catholic affiliation than it is a wing of the church.
While they do some good work, there are problematic issues with their charity worldwide.
Archbishop Cordileone is one of the better higher ranking senior clerics in the USA in my mind, certainly better than Cardinal Dolan thinking he can be a friend to everyone while still being orthodox, but not quite Cardinal Burke.
What I think most likely you are seeing in that article, and reflected in many intra-catholic conflicts, is just a reflection of the US culture war at large just being played out inside the body of the church.
Rather than being sanctioned by Archbishop Cordileone, my guess is the twatter account cited is probably being managed by some aging frumpy suburban housewife who associates the hippydom of her youth with doing Christ's work in this world, or some recent SJW feminist college grad who likewise feels like same about her experience.

Regarding Fr. Isaac Mary Relyea, he is certainly one of the most based priests out there, and has an uncanny knack for speaking uncomfortable truths that need to be said.
More men need to listen to him; he claims his program for quitting pornography has an 100% success rate, and it is so spiritually rigorous and demanding, I believe it.
His talk on the Four Last Things used to be standard Catholicism 101 in the pre-Vatican II days as I understand it, and now can only be heard from these sort of "radical traditionalist" priests.
Anyway, his guidance certainly isn't easy, but is hard to argue with.
Case in point, if I manage to make it home this summer, I'm probably most looking forward to getting down to the beach.
But its hard to argue it isn't putting oneself in proximity to a near occasion of sin.
I don't know if its true of not, but I've heard Fr. Isaac grew up connected to the NYC mafia before having some powerful conversion.
I like to imagine that is true, but if someone knows otherwise, please tell me.
During the McCarrick scandals, I heard him once say McCarrick once made a pass at him and he nearly knocked him out!

Regarding the American catholic usage of birth control, I hardly think American catholics are exceptional in their usage compared to anywhere else in the world in the current year.
The hemorrhaging mentioned in the Philippines is widely commented to be happening for similar reasons throughout South America.
It definitely seems to be a combination of the effects of previous sins and corruptions, combined with a strong sense of entitlement and a complacency toward congregations by leaders who take their positions for granted.
Catholic immigrants to the US in the previous century did slavishly work to build some amazing churches in cities where they are currently widely neglected, in places like Detroit where the sheer force of economics likely will necessitate them being sold off since their maintenance costs exceed what little historical value they still provide.
When you leave those decisions in the hands of homosexuals who care more about their nightlife then they do about preserving tradition and orthodoxy, it definitely paints a bleak picture and makes me think the previous pope was correct that the future church will be a much smaller, leaner, more orthodox church.
 

Tiger Man

Woodpecker
Has anyone dug in to the religious associated with Ascension Presents/Ascension Press (link)? They sell themselves with a sort of Catholic evangelism vibe. The most popular person in the group is Fr. Mike Schmitz, with his Youtube channel. I can't really decide where I sit. Schmitz often sticks to a fairly orthodox interpretation as far as I can tell. However, some of the other personalities are a bit more wishy-washy. And, they have recently put out some material that leads me to believe they are preaching some BLM-type stuff. I ask because I have a friend who is interested in Catholicism, but wants to look at some "easily digestible" material about it before going any further. He doesn't want to go to mass or visit a priest or church.
 

Errol

Pigeon
I don't regularly watch them, but believe your instincts are correct. Fr. Mike Schmitz and the larger Ascension Presents channel are accurately presenting the full faith, but in a way that is trying to be relevant to the world.
They are trying to be a friendly face to welcome those who might have been away for awhile or never fully adopted the faith to begin with, or even simply don't know much about it in general.
While I don't have any issue with that, I do think it kind of misses the point that the church is relevant precisely because it is not of this world.
But I do believe its important to meet people where they are at in terms of evangelization, so if you think your friend would benefit from Fr. Mike, I would say go for it. In a similar manner, I would recommend Fr. Mark Goring as another very charismatic on fire priest who's enthusiasm for the faith is equally catchy, but prefers to simply talk to his camera himself and make his own content.
If your friend is looking for something easily digestible but still has more intellectual rigor, I would take a look at Taylor Marshall's early apologetic work from three or four years ago.
I haven't listened to all these, but I think something like the following could be practical:
Ultimately though, video content and other apologetics only go so far, so your friend will need to be willing to put his interest in the church in action if he is serious about developing it.
 
Father Mike is giving you the absolute minimum that’s required by the church. Yeah, it’s not enough, but this is for the people who are hanging onto the church by their fingernails.
 

redbeard

Hummingbird
Moderator
I like Fr. Mike. Even though he seems all lovey-dovey and "seeker-friendly," he knows what he's talking about. Here's him calling out Catholic couples who spend the night together, even if they don't have sex. Based.

 

NoMoreTO

Pelican
I haven't listened to all these, but I think something like the following could be practical:
Ultimately though, video content and other apologetics only go so far, so your friend will need to be willing to put his interest in the church in action if he is serious about developing it.
New St. Thomas Institute (website) is an amazing source if someone wants to get catechized quickly. The videos summarize topics in an organized way - Church Fathers, History of Church (Arianism, marcianism, etc), Nature of God, New Testament theology, Sacraments, Apologetics etc etc.

It was too expensive for me to hold onto, but I would definitely recommend his online course for someone with time who wants to be catechized quickly. The videos are short (10 Minutes) and exremely.

He has 8 years of content built up, each with a different main theme. This year is the Latin Rite and Tridentine Mass. He will put some of these videos up on youtube. The one about Our Lady of Guadalupe is a good example of this. It's an amazing miracle and apparition that I new nothing about and it honestly blew me away. He has I think 6 videos like this on mariology, marian apparitions, what we believe about her virgin birth and so many questions and details sorted out.

 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Vatican urges Catholics to drop investments in fossil fuels, arms

This is a stellar example of how godless right/left wing politics is used to entice Godly men to side with money-grubbing politicians instead of their own faith.

Look out, goyim! By insisting that it is man's duty to care for the environment your Pope is clearly siding you with the communists! Abandon your faith before the Catholic Church prevents us from strip-mining forests and dumping cyanide by-products into the rivers there!

Meanwhile the same snake-oil salesmen have accepted gay marriage as standard and are working on normalizing male crossdressing sex offenders being able to use the same bathrooms as five year old girls.
 
I have a simple question , since I am still not very knowledgeable.

In the 10 commandments , there is one saying that (translated from French by myself) "you should honor your parents" ? What does it exactly mean ?
 

Errol

Pigeon
I have a simple question , since I am still not very knowledgeable.

In the 10 commandments , there is one saying that (translated from French by myself) "you should honor your parents" ? What does it exactly mean ?
I don't think it is overly complicated: you should respect your parents, as they naturally have some authority over you having birthed and raised you. I know that it isn't particularly easy given so many of us on this board likely are the children of boomers, but that basically makes it all the more important to keep in mind.
 
I don't think it is overly complicated: you should respect your parents, as they naturally have some authority over you having birthed and raised you. I know that it isn't particularly easy given so many of us on this board likely are the children of boomers, but that basically makes it all the more important to keep in mind.
Thanks.
 

jarlo

Sparrow
I think you need to consider two other factors when interpreting those numbers.
  1. The U.S. population has increased by 50% since 1975. So, on the one hand, the decline of Catholicism in the U.S. is even more exaggerated than those numbers suggest.
  2. The various child sexual abuse scandals led to many people leaving Catholicism or to cease attending church, but they may have just substituted out to non-Catholic denominations/churches.
Regardless, the last fifty years have not been good for Catholicism.
 
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