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<blockquote data-quote="An0dyne" data-source="post: 1276370" data-attributes="member: 16846">The most engaged, young members of the Roman Church I know today are very traditional (Latin Mass, many children, etc.). The upper escehelons are still entrenched with Boomers, which will take a while to phase out. But I think change is coming there one way or the other.&nbsp; The real issue is the long-range effects of Vatican 2. The reforms of that era had a ripple-effect throughout Western Christendom. The adage goes, &quot;When the pope sniffs, Protestants sneeze.&quot; It's very true. The reality is that over the past decades/centuries, Protestants have been mimicking the Roman Church. It started liturgically, with abandoning our unique/ethnic forms for the Roman rite, fully realized in Vatican 2. In the most recent sense, Protestants see the media campaign about a liberalizing Catholic magisterium and try to emulate accordingly.Of course, Rome is self-reforming and not at all as liberal as the media would have you believe. Some of the Vatican 2 liturgical reforms are being rolled back. And I suspect there will be a magisterial purge soon as well. But the damage to the rest of Western Christendom has already been done.&nbsp; Rest assured, there are traditional elements in the denominations pushing back against the trends. But the mainline denominations, unlike the Roman Church, will fizzle and die before these smaller sects rise to prominence.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="An0dyne, post: 1276370, member: 16846"] The most engaged, young members of the Roman Church I know today are very traditional (Latin Mass, many children, etc.). The upper escehelons are still entrenched with Boomers, which will take a while to phase out. But I think change is coming there one way or the other. The real issue is the long-range effects of Vatican 2. The reforms of that era had a ripple-effect throughout Western Christendom. The adage goes, "When the pope sniffs, Protestants sneeze." It's very true. The reality is that over the past decades/centuries, Protestants have been mimicking the Roman Church. It started liturgically, with abandoning our unique/ethnic forms for the Roman rite, fully realized in Vatican 2. In the most recent sense, Protestants see the media campaign about a liberalizing Catholic magisterium and try to emulate accordingly. Of course, Rome is self-reforming and not at all as liberal as the media would have you believe. Some of the Vatican 2 liturgical reforms are being rolled back. And I suspect there will be a magisterial purge soon as well. But the damage to the rest of Western Christendom has already been done. Rest assured, there are traditional elements in the denominations pushing back against the trends. But the mainline denominations, unlike the Roman Church, will fizzle and die before these smaller sects rise to prominence. [/QUOTE]

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