The climate change hoax

Bird

Ostrich
Catholic
We are The Tyre Extinguishers.

We are people from all walks of life with one aim: To make it impossible to own a huge polluting 4x4 in the world’s urban areas. We are defending ourselves against climate change, air pollution and unsafe drivers.
We do this with a simple tactic: Deflating the tyres of these massive, unnecessary vehicles, causing inconvenience for their owners.

Deflating tyres repeatedly and encouraging others to do the same will turn the minor inconvenience of a flat tyre into a giant obstacle for driving massive killer vehicles around our streets,

NEARLY 900 SUVS HIT IN EIGHT COUNTRIES IN HUGE NIGHT OF ANTI-SUV ACTION

Last night (the evening of Monday 28th November and early morning of Tuesday 29th November), citizens in eight countries deflated tyres on nearly 900 polluting SUVs. This is the biggest coordinated global action against high-carbon vehicles in history, with many more to come.

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paternos

Kingfisher
Catholic
We are The Tyre Extinguishers.

We are people from all walks of life with one aim: To make it impossible to own a huge polluting 4x4 in the world’s urban areas. We are defending ourselves against climate change, air pollution and unsafe drivers.
We do this with a simple tactic: Deflating the tyres of these massive, unnecessary vehicles, causing inconvenience for their owners.

Deflating tyres repeatedly and encouraging others to do the same will turn the minor inconvenience of a flat tyre into a giant obstacle for driving massive killer vehicles around our streets,


NEARLY 900 SUVS HIT IN EIGHT COUNTRIES IN HUGE NIGHT OF ANTI-SUV ACTION

Last night (the evening of Monday 28th November and early morning of Tuesday 29th November), citizens in eight countries deflated tyres on nearly 900 polluting SUVs. This is the biggest coordinated global action against high-carbon vehicles in history, with many more to come.

Full story
Hahaha, is this the next step in the idiocracy? The attack on the SUV? The "karen" of the cars?

They really do everything to divide us. If it's not on race, gender or politics, they will do it on the cars we drive. Everything to distract the anger away from those that rule us.

 
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Vasily Martian

Sparrow
Orthodox
Everything today is seemingly in flux. Traditional gender roles no longer interest anyone.
Neither do traditional genders.
Or traditional this.
Or traditional that.
And this apparent flux isn't happening on its own, but is being foisted onto everyone quite intentionally.
And in the midst of all this man-made flux, we're all supposed to think that the weather also changing is just a coincidence.
And has nothing to with the dirty work of men.
Either by fudging the figures or by manipulating the weather.
Or probably doing a lot of both.
Man made climate change indeed.
Just not the kind they'd have us believe.
 

paternos

Kingfisher
Catholic
This police officer acts quickly, hopefully he won't get in trouble for it.


I love the glue though..

On a wet rainy road "glueing" yourself to the street...

I hope they use vegan non evil-oil-non-plastic glue.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
Everything today is seemingly in flux. Traditional gender roles no longer interest anyone.
Neither do traditional genders.
Or traditional this.
Or traditional that.
And this apparent flux isn't happening on its own, but is being foisted onto everyone quite intentionally.
And in the midst of all this man-made flux, we're all supposed to think that the weather also changing is just a coincidence.
And has nothing to with the dirty work of men.
Either by fudging the figures or by manipulating the weather.
Or probably doing a lot of both.
Man made climate change indeed.
Just not the kind they'd have us believe.
I love that - it is indeed men made climate change, in the sense that it's made up by men :laughter: Brilliant.
 

Seadog

Woodpecker
8 feet of snow in parts of NY before Thanksgiving.

Anyway, climate has always changed. Appears lefties have never opened a history book.

Whenever I have had conversations with global warming pushers, I simply pointed out Antarctica previously had no snow (ancient maps show this) and Egypt and the Sahara used to be lush and green.

Then I ask, how much warmer would the planet need to be to melt all the snow on Antarctica? While their mental calculators can't compute such a question I say the earth has already been there.

And while they struggle to accept that I point to the other end of the spectrum. And how about the multiple periods of ice ages? Did you know people used to walk across the Bering Strait? Ever heard of Half Dome in Yosemite? How was that created?

Simply put the idea a swing in a couple degrees is somehow extreme is such a low iq position.

This is around the first indications to me that there were problems with the matrix. Always being genuinely curious, I started looking into the global warming close to 20 years ago. I'd ask people questions, not particularly taking a side "what about this, have you considered that", no different than Matt Walsh's recent "what's a woman". What I realized is that no one knew anything about it aside from the half a dozen bullet points the MSM parroted. They couldn't back up their positions, said follow the science, but couldn't be bothered to learn what the science was.

So out of curiosity I read large portions of the IPCC report on it. Dry technical reading, but was eye opening. While I don't subscribe to it's 100% fake, I think many people have run hog wild with the alarmism, as many predictions are qualified with "likely, potentially, almost certainly" taking a worst first approach to commentary, all exacerbating by the fact that many people pushing it are getting a pay check which almost be definition leads to a massive conflict of interest. There was a time when science was done by people of leisure, who were genuinely curious about how the world works. Unfortunately there are a lot fewer clever men of leisure than there are people who want a cushy NGO job, but it does make their results that much more unassailable. I would also hold the oil and gas industry to the same standard that their conflict of interest means their data must be viewed with a jaundiced eye.

I see it again and again. People have an opinion on something they know absolutely nothing about. If you need a building built, or an airplane, do you do it be democratic means? "Here's out 10 potential airfoil designs for our plane. Now lets have a vote. It doesn't matter that you do social media. Pick the one that you think is pretty". No, people who actually know about these things should get a disproportionate say - yet this is exactly how we're setting energy policy.

I saw it with fraccing, and having worked in the industry for close to a decade people couldn't retort with anything other than emotional "the water's on fire!" knowing not even the basics of hydro or petroleum geology but having an opinion they felt was as informed as mine since they saw a movie.

See it with nuclear despite lots of updates to the technology, and the average reactor being something like 50 years old - people with an opinion despite not being able to tell you what a meltdown actually is.

Geothermal is one of the facets I've started working in in the last year, and seems to slide under the radar. The dark horse that people have sort of heard of, but can't actually explain. Very high upfront costs can be $50k-75k+, but then you can save like 90% off your heating/cooling bills for life, and the wells can outlive the house. It's funny how people are so dissuaded by an investment that will actually save money each year, but many will not balk at paying the same amount for a new kitchen or house renovation.

The big problem is that policy is being set by marketing instead of science. And science has been so corrupted and the scientific method so poorly understood that people wouldn't even know real science if it hit them in the face.
 

murphykj930

Robin
Buddhist / Eastern
Geothermal is one of the facets I've started working in in the last year, and seems to slide under the radar. The dark horse that people have sort of heard of, but can't actually explain. Very high upfront costs can be $50k-75k+, but then you can save like 90% off your heating/cooling bills for life, and the wells can outlive the house. It's funny how people are so dissuaded by an investment that will actually save money each year, but many will not balk at paying the same amount for a new kitchen or house renovation.
Greed is one of the main issues here. After the plant is built, it’s not gonna net a huge profit. Kinda hard to sell steam to anyone.
 

inthefade

Kingfisher
Orthodox Inquirer
Geothermal is one of the facets I've started working in in the last year, and seems to slide under the radar. The dark horse that people have sort of heard of, but can't actually explain. Very high upfront costs can be $50k-75k+, but then you can save like 90% off your heating/cooling bills for life, and the wells can outlive the house. It's funny how people are so dissuaded by an investment that will actually save money each year, but many will not balk at paying the same amount for a new kitchen or house renovation.
Interesting, I did not know geothermal was possible at the personal home level. Can you point me to more good information about this? Do you need to be located in certain areas?
 

murphykj930

Robin
Buddhist / Eastern
Interesting, I did not know geothermal was possible at the personal home level. Can you point me to more good information about this? Do you need to be located in certain areas?
I dug and found old stuff.
 

Seadog

Woodpecker
Interesting, I did not know geothermal was possible at the personal home level. Can you point me to more good information about this? Do you need to be located in certain areas?

I just did some quick googling, and found these guys:


I felt did a pretty good job of explaining it in a 3 part series.

My boss used to own a rig, so he drilled and cased a 500 foot hole in his yard. He stuck a U shaped tube there, then pumps down glycol in a closed loop, the earth heats it, it comes up, and it enters a heat pump*

Brief sidetrack explanation in case people aren't familiar: This is basically no different than the back side of your fridge or AC. Neither "makes coolness" rather it just takes the heat that was originally in your fridge or house, then "moves" it to the back of fridge or the outside. The upside here in the fridge example, is that lets say your fridge uses 100W of power. Your room might actually heat up by 200W, because in addition to the 100W of electricity you paid for and ultimately becomes heat, you also moved 100W of heat from the inside box, to the outside of your fridge.

So in this case the "cold" is the 25 degree glycol coming up from the ground. Heat is moved from that to water, which ups it's temp to 60C or which then can either be used to heat your home directly, or transferred to air/duct work.

Cold glycol side of loop gets sent back down, heat up again, and the wheels go round and round.

In the summer the opposite happens, you capitalize on the 5 degree water, but here you send the some of that 60 degree water to your hot water tank, and the glycol loop goes down at 55C or so to be cooled back down to 25 or so. So instead of paying to cool, and paying to heat, you're just "paying to separate", which is massively more economical than energy itself. Anyways, probably a 2500 sq ft, 4 br house, and he says he spends $1000 a year in heating/cooling.

The benefits over air source heat pumps are you have a far more stable, mid range temp which makes it easier for the heat pump. You're not trying to pull heat out of -20 air, or reject heat to +35 air in summer. Additionally fluid heat transfer and capacity is far more efficient than air, which leaves you with an all around better performing system.

#1 downside is the cost. It's not cheap to drill a hole 500 feet deep. but once it's there it should be good for 100 years. #2 as you mentioned, it's not suitable everywhere - climate and local geology play a role. #3, on a large scale, heat depletion can become an issue, in that you actually start to cool the rock, and unless you stop pumping, it won't have a chance to replenish itself. As mentioned this is a bigger issue, and on larger projects my boss worked on with roughly equal heating and cooling loads, it was helped by rejecting heat in the summer, and since it dissipates slowly, merely making use of a slightly hotter heat source in the winter.

Anyways, it just blows me away there isn't a bigger push for things like this or even a willingness to look at nuclear or other alternatives. Oil will always have a place. Ethanol is an okay substitute, but unless you're growing sugar cane in Brazil its a net energy loser. It's just "carbon tax for everyone!* (except the Chinese, Indians, or Africa). The likely path of outcomes on their current energy policy trajectory is as obvious as it was with what happened to Germany when they decided to shut down most generation other than Russian gas because muh environment.
 
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