The crime wave in America

Parmesan

Pelican
Other Christian
At the end of the day Walmart is a business and this is nothing more than a business decision. Beancounters are rarely ideologues.
Maybe 10+ years ago, but I wouldn't bet on it now. Look what has happened to every career that is traditionally gate-kept via academia. Doctors now reject basic human anatomy in fealty to liberal politics. Yes, there are obvious money incentives for closing these stores, but by closing them, they also get to reject reality in a way, because the rampant theft and likelihood of violence in these stores also doesn't fit the preferred narrative. Again, if pressed, I almost guarantee you WalMart would absolutely defend and promote the liberal plantation that keeps blacks acting like fools in all these deep blue cities.
 

Samseau

Peacock
Orthodox
Gold Member
Maybe 10+ years ago, but I wouldn't bet on it now. Look what has happened to every career that is traditionally gate-kept via academia. Doctors now reject basic human anatomy in fealty to liberal politics. Yes, there are obvious money incentives for closing these stores, but by closing them, they also get to reject reality in a way, because the rampant theft and likelihood of violence in these stores also doesn't fit the preferred narrative. Again, if pressed, I almost guarantee you WalMart would absolutely defend and promote the liberal plantation that keeps blacks acting like fools in all these deep blue cities.

Yes, easily. They will come up with spin that put the blame at Whites, "Oh, hipsters don't like WalMart" or some other nonsense.
 

Parmesan

Pelican
Other Christian
Liberals don't actually care or comprehend those kinds of questions. They live in a bubble of safety in their wealthy neighborhoods.
That's just limo liberals. Most liberals actually do understand what is going on (why do you think virtually none of them choose to live in black neighborhoods or send their kids to the heavily black/latino urban schools), but it's still more valuable to make violent minorities your "allies," because the true intentions of all this are that "beta" whites largely despise "alpha" whites who have out-competed, out-socialized, and/or out-mated them. They would rather be white saviors among urban squalor than exist in the shadow of more productive and successful whites.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
Maybe 10+ years ago, but I wouldn't bet on it now. Look what has happened to every career that is traditionally gate-kept via academia. Doctors now reject basic human anatomy in fealty to liberal politics. Yes, there are obvious money incentives for closing these stores, but by closing them, they also get to reject reality in a way, because the rampant theft and likelihood of violence in these stores also doesn't fit the preferred narrative. Again, if pressed, I almost guarantee you WalMart would absolutely defend and promote the liberal plantation that keeps blacks acting like fools in all these deep blue cities.
There is a limit to the Bolshevik ideology that is rampant in our country, at this time

Sure, Blackrock and their Wall Street friends can force dieversity on to the hundreds of corporations/banks they control. If Wal-Mart doesn't do as told, they lose their ability to finance and they shut down tomorrow. But it is within some reason. They might be forced to support LGBTQ/Trans/BLM and lose 2% of their business, but that can be afforded. I am sure they ran the closing of these stores down, by their Wall Street masters, and the loss was simply large enough to allow it.

Wal-Mart can afford to lose sales and make up for it in other ways. They can't afford to lose $10's of millions a year in theft + have the reputation of being a violent/unsafe place to shop + eventually be targeted by the BLM coalition because they try to stop theft in these stores + eventual and predictable large lawsuits.

Chicago's violent situation is so over the top, it allowed them to have an out.
 

DanielH

Hummingbird
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I can't figure out if this data is for African Americans only or if this is worldwide/cross-country. Note the obvious clear cultural differences between Carribbean blacks and African American blacks.
According to this data, 4.5% of black men will have murdered someone in their lifetime. That's 1/22 black men. For white men it's about 1/365.
The table is slightly misleading, it's more like in a population of 100,000 black men, there will be 4500 murders perpetrated by the men in that group.
 
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Parmesan

Pelican
Other Christian
According to this data, 4.5% of black men will have murdered someone in their lifetime. That's 1/22 black men. For white men it's about 1/365.
The dramatic degradation of black culture is astounding, but it’s been so normalized and ignored for several decades that most of us don’t even comprehend it, and most blacks are in pure denial themselves. 4.5% is absolutely insane in a first world country. If this were any light skinned race this would literally be a national emergency. It’s likely going to get much worse as current generations are being raised with even more degeneracy and less structure in the home. It seems blacks have the same problem as Whites… I rarely see any strong black men anymore, at least back in the 90’s criminals looked like boxers and linebackers. These days most gangbangers and carjackers look like special needs kids. There are no leaders in their culture to stop any of this.
 

Pole85

Pigeon
Catholic
According to this data, 4.5% of black men will have murdered someone in their lifetime. That's 1/22 black men. For white men it's about 1/365.
Probably more likely someone that murders ends up murdering more than one person. So it's probably more like 1-2% of black men in the US murder.
My friend 'Z' and I used to both go to a weekly Life Coach meeting led by a black man. Recently I told Z about Scott Adams remarks and that I think I might agree. He called me a racist. I asked him what kind of racist pays a black man for life coaching for a year... He didn't respond and hasn't since.
 

DanielH

Hummingbird
Moderator
Orthodox
Probably more likely someone that murders ends up murdering more than one person. So it's probably more like 1-2% of black men in the US murder.
You're right, I just ran the math and edited my last post. Still, blacks are committing more than an order of magnitude more murders per capita than whites, and you can't square that with socioeconomic factors.
 

Samseau

Peacock
Orthodox
Gold Member
Also keep in mind 80% of the murders are Blacks against each other, most Whites will never be exposed to the violence. This is also of course because Whites stay away from ghettos, but at the end of the day it's still ~1000 Whites slain per 100K per year. Vast majority of Blacks won't hurt Whites, but the huge criminal element is a serious problem that cannot be ignored.

But again, ultimately this is a spiritual problem - Whites don't care about each other, or other victims of murder. Instead they'd rather fit in, so they keep their mouth shut.
 

Seadog

Kingfisher
According to this data, 4.5% of black men will have murdered someone in their lifetime. That's 1/22 black men. For white men it's about 1/365.
The table is slightly misleading, it's more like in a population of 100,000 black men, there will be 4500 murders perpetrated by the men in that group.

Yeah, the data is opaque with that regard and heavily open to misinterpretation. Obviously it doesn't say anything good, but it seems to be being interpreted in a way to drive a certain narrative - which shouldn't be more acceptable just because it's your "side".

It does say "murderers" which alone isn't super helpful - because victims are a lot easier to count than perpetrators. Convictions? Suspects? Arrests? Given how many murders go unsolved, it would be a hard sell to convince me the accuracy of those numbers.

But lets assume they are accurate. Very likely it follows a sort of Pareto distribution, much like 80% of crimes are committed by 20% of people, or 80% of women get bagged by 20% of men, I'd highly suspect that 80 (or 90%) of murders are committed by 20 (or 10%) of men.

Even 1/365 for whites seems high. I went to high school with several murderers? I have several murderers on my FB friends?

The true stats probably wouldn't be that hard to get a ball park on. How long would the average charge for various types of homicide be? 10 years? How many people in jail at any one time, multiply by 7 to get an approx life time ball park.

I found this:


which says ~10k black murderers in 2019 (after you attribute all of the unknown category to blacks)


then this:


Which also says about 10k black victims per year.

Don't become that which you detest. Sloppy reporting, half truths, and bad statistical analysis. The numbers, even with the most favorable assumptions possible still look pretty bad, so why not just go with that.

Of course, this assumes some integrity and good faith dealing on both sides to the scientific process, and welcoming criticism and hard questions from the opposition to defend your position - which obviously hasn't been the case through global warming/covid/sex relations/gender anything. So propagandize away I guess? Because if literally hundreds of videos of roaming packs of ferals looting and smashing everything within reach didn't do it for the various sympathizers, an "Aha! but look at this report!" probably won't do it either.
 

Seadog

Kingfisher
Also keep in mind 80% of the murders are Blacks against each other, most Whites will never be exposed to the violence. This is also of course because Whites stay away from ghettos, but at the end of the day it's still ~1000 Whites slain per 100K per year. Vast majority of Blacks won't hurt Whites, but the huge criminal element is a serious problem that cannot be ignored.

But again, ultimately this is a spiritual problem - Whites don't care about each other, or other victims of murder. Instead they'd rather fit in, so they keep their mouth shut.

This math doesn't work. 1000 whites per 100k per year? That means literally 1% of everyone I know should expect to die each year - roughly 5x the rate of car crashes. Over 20 years, I've known probably 4-5people (loosely) who died in car crashes. No one who's been murdered.

Also, the second link I posted quotes 7000 white murder victims in 2020. I'm pretty sure the white population of the US is higher than 700,000.

The real numbers would be along the lines of 300m/7000 or about 3/100k. This is in the ballpark of the posted data too.
 

DanielH

Hummingbird
Moderator
Orthodox
Also keep in mind 80% of the murders are Blacks against each other, most Whites will never be exposed to the violence. This is also of course because Whites stay away from ghettos, but at the end of the day it's still ~1000 Whites slain per 100K per year. Vast majority of Blacks won't hurt Whites, but the huge criminal element is a serious problem that cannot be ignored.

But again, ultimately this is a spiritual problem - Whites don't care about each other, or other victims of murder. Instead they'd rather fit in, so they keep their mouth shut.
The vast majority of whites will never be exposed to black violence? My 95% white home town of fewer than 9,000 had the local Walmart board up because of the George Floyd riots. Many other stores nearby did as well. The only murder in my town in decades was perpetrated by a black from like two towns over. That was at a deli my best man's mom worked at. My mom and my wife have been stalked by blacks. When I was in high school, they imported blacks through “school choice” and they, being only about 2% of the school population, were easily involved in 50% of the fights, particularly among the girls.

Blacks are at least an order of magnitude more murderous than whites- the data proves that - and it's even worse in comparison to east asians. Add them to a white society they've been trained to hate through their own “community” and white “saviors” who lecture them about how victimized by whites, and many of them are more than happy to victimize whites based solely on the fact that they are white and are perceived as easy targets.

In 2005, more than 100 white women were raped or sexually assaulted by black men every single day. For all of 2005, not one black woman was raped or sexually assaulted by a white man according to government statistics. For obvious reasons this is a metric no longer recorded. There isn't even a way to pad that data.

Blacks need their own communities to work on their own nation. They will never improve while being taught to be victims and given a steady income for not doing anything. But that's really just an excuse for me to say I want blacks away from my society and my women, and I want the people foisting “diversity” upon my community in an attempt to destroy my nation through miscegenation, demoralization, and outright murder, I want them removed from office, at the least.
 

Pole85

Pigeon
Catholic
I think the chart causing this recent discussion is lifetime stats, not per year. Obviously the numbers wouldn't add up if looked at per year.

However, the 80/20 point is a good one. I based my assumption off a murderer killing atleast 2 people. But considering how often there are multiple murders at one party, car, or drug scene gone bad, and how often murders go unsolved and probably lead to more murders by the same person later, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that a typical killer kills 3, 4 or 5 people.
 

fokm

Kingfisher
Protestant
Gold Member
@Seadog is falling prey to his own fallacy. He cites numbers and then says, "I went to high school with several murderers?"

I'm going to guess you didn't ever attend inner city schools. But if you did, then yes, it's likely you went to high school with several murderers.

In any case, unless numbers are just overwhelming, you're probably not going to notice on a personal level. But to counter you, I live in a nice suburban area that is pretty diverse. I live literally a 3 minute drive from my in laws.

When I moved in, I had black neighbors across the street. One day, there was a bullet hole through their front door (and my 3yo daughter's room was facing their house -- I was not happy)

When I moved in, my in-laws had Black neighbors. They had all sorts of weirdos coming by at all hours. Eventually one of the neighbors died in the house and it was discovered it was a drug dealer den.

I should move right? Or I'm misleading about the neighborhood in which I live. Well, the average price of a home where I am at is over $500,000 (and that was pre-COVID).

In any case, there's a reason that anecdotal data doesn't count as statistical data. In any case, humans live on heuristics, and it's served me well to be safe than sorry. If only the rest of society would follow suit, perhaps I wouldn't have to worry about a shootout on my street while my 3yo is sleeping. What's worse is I've literally worked my butt off for decades to afford my life, culturally it's not even much of a step up from when I grew up.
 
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