The crisis of masculinity

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Sparrow
Orthodox Inquirer
This is the message I get when I try to open those videos. Absolutely ridiculous hahaha:

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Hey, if you have the link to the bitchute video just copy paste it here:

So if you see the video on the bitchute feed you can clik on it to get the url, then copy paste it and download it.

But to view the channel you have to use a vpn like Nord VPN and choose a country outside of europe. Any bitchute channel that shares the truth about the jews is not allowed in Europe.
 

DavidKnight

Pigeon
Catholic
Some of the insane and rage-filled ramblings published by the self-elected president of the manosphere. See the first one in which he dumps on men who found God.
I don't think Anthony has moved on from his anger over marrying an actual prostitute. The sad part is that these dudes turn into self-destructive role models for younger guys while simultaneously doing more damage to themselves. Raging about women and supposedly weaker men 24/7 is not going to make you a better person. Same thing with MGTOWs.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer

A great article by one of my favorite authors.
The problem with conservatives is that they don't conserve anything. And if you ask them to what time do you actually want to go back? What do you want to conserve? Often what they want to conserve are the liberal values of vague and meaningless ''freedom''. They're always reacting, never playing ball.
 

Blade Runner

Hummingbird
Orthodox
People don't want to hear this, but we have had a lot of people born into the world in a dysgenic manner, precisely because things were so good materially and with medical innovation and treatment. What's more, Christian faith disappeared, for the most part, from "normal" life at least as early as 40 years ago. I think everyone understands this and it is the root of not trusting many people on the internet (including here) and telling them to just man up and self improve.

The modern dilemma, and what I see this site as always being about (even now), is that we have material lives of convenience and little concern for safety and survival, though that may be starting to change now. With that, and even being successful and fit (physically in shape), it has given the idea that we should fairly easily (since men who did well got this in the past, for certain) get a good woman. The problem is that there are so few high quality women anymore, and certainly not according to men's commitment and what they find attractive biologically, which is a set in stone reality (women aged 18-23). The last thing I'll point out is that because male "attractiveness" is far more malleable (theoretically) for women, guys who are average (and might have a good job even) think they have a shot with a decent looking woman nowadays (I'm talking about America now since I'm from the USA). The simple fact is that they don't. Sadly, there are many that are 2 points higher than these on the scale that can barely meet a 7 in real life, let alone entice her to a relationship, in this day and age.
 

Anomaly

Sparrow
Trad Catholic
People don't want to hear this, but we have had a lot of people born into the world in a dysgenic manner, precisely because things were so good materially and with medical innovation and treatment. What's more, Christian faith disappeared, for the most part, from "normal" life at least as early as 40 years ago. I think everyone understands this and it is the root of not trusting many people on the internet (including here) and telling them to just man up and self improve.

The modern dilemma, and what I see this site as always being about (even now), is that we have material lives of convenience and little concern for safety and survival, though that may be starting to change now. With that, and even being successful and fit (physically in shape), it has given the idea that we should fairly easily (since men who did well got this in the past, for certain) get a good woman. The problem is that there are so few high quality women anymore, and certainly not according to men's commitment and what they find attractive biologically, which is a set in stone reality (women aged 18-23). The last thing I'll point out is that because male "attractiveness" is far more malleable (theoretically) for women, guys who are average (and might have a good job even) think they have a shot with a decent looking woman nowadays (I'm talking about America now since I'm from the USA). The simple fact is that they don't. Sadly, there are many that are 2 points higher than these on the scale that can barely meet a 7 in real life, let alone entice her to a relationship, in this day and age.
This is why the notion that all incels are basement-dwelling manchildren or wannabe fornicators is false.
 

Anomaly

Sparrow
Trad Catholic
I agree with this general premise, but can you explain what stands out to you most as to why your point is correct?
It’s a matter of sheer numbers.

To expand:

  1. Because of an unregulated sexual market, hypergamy is unrestrained. Therefore some or many women seek high status, alpha, or thrilling men—who are becoming fewer in number—and in some cases, when they cannot obtain such men or get them to commit, they will not “settle” and rather be alone indefinitely than be with an ordinary man.
  2. For some of those that have huge social-media followings, there is plenty of money to be made, and the sheer amount of attention and validation shown from a gorillion likes, donations, comments, and DM’s take the place of companionship and attention from men IRL.
  3. Some big-city careerist women have social lives that are jam packed with events, traveling, and various surrogate activities with their friends. Men do not fit into this.
  4. Some, perhaps many, aim to pile on the accolades and career ascension before they find a man. For that time being, men aren’t in the equation. That time is also when they’re the most fertile and attractive. And because of the aforementioned decreasing pool of high status men, and college-educated men, some cannot find a man equal to or above them in status.
  5. There is now an appreciable amount of single moms. Many men do not prefer this situation.
  6. Some men have been no-fault divorced by their wives, and because of a gynocentric court system, have been fleeced of their money and assets, making them a poor prospect for other women.
  7. I’ll go out on a limb and say many women, because of the unregulated market coupled with no male authority in some homes, start racking up a list of sexual partners and “relationships” starting in the early teenage years. By the time they are through with these thrilling and tumultuous years (from my real-life experience the ones who start this early have a penchant for “bad boys”, actually bad in some cases), their pair-bonding ability is shot!
  8. Some women do not need men, period, including for child raising, because they have plenty of their own money, or if not, welfare or donations from the state and family.
  9. Infantilization, arrested development, mental illness, immaturity, and/or feminization of many men (this includes my former self).
  10. Mass immigration of foreign men.
 
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Anomaly

Sparrow
Trad Catholic
So given this overall problem of numbers, many normal men will be out of a woman!

Let’s also add that 60 percent of college campuses and law schools are women! Some men have thought, “No biggie! Men will just go into trades!”

Uh, not so fast! Many men are not suited for trades or have particular talents that can only be used in professions. And with plenty of status-hungry women around with college degrees, many, perhaps most look down on “uneducated” men, even if they earn decent livings.
 

MartyMcFly

Pelican
Other Christian
The problem with conservatives is that they don't conserve anything. And if you ask them to what time do you actually want to go back? What do you want to conserve? Often what they want to conserve are the liberal values of vague and meaningless ''freedom''. They're always reacting, never playing ball.
This is often something Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh comment about and why they both like DeSantis as well (he is not perfect-but he is definitely better than many politicians). The culture war is waking more and more people because it is not as easy to just say 'you do hat you like and I do what I like' as it used to be.

I agree 100% with point #1 about protecting marriage and parental authority.

Point #2 I am not 100% in agreement with. I would be more supportive if the US military only focused on protecting the USA and not other nations. I can't support a draft just to have soldiers invade Iraq or Afghanistan (while pretending they are protecting these nations). I think it would be fine to require military reserves or national guard or possibly border defense as options but perhaps with a 4-6 month full-time service requirement with an additional 1.5-2.5 year part-time commitment.

In my experience, the army was a negative influence. People outside the military have a false impression of honor, courage, and teamwork; I was naïve as well before joining. There was better teamwork as well as few people with gangster attitudes in my job at McDonald's than there was in the military. There were issues with drugs, theft, vandalism, domestic violence, affairs, and alcoholism as well as bad leadership and females getting special treatment. The military base I was on felt like living in a small city ghetto. Surprisingly, racism was not a major issue though despite a lot of diversity-maybe that has changed though. Every unit is different though, maybe I was just in a bad unit. I am curious about the author's military experience (if he was in). He would have a better impression if he were in a well-organized unit with good leaders.
 

MartyMcFly

Pelican
Other Christian
Salty Grunt (blanket language warning) weights in here:

I disagree. Perhaps they would be too weak to be marine infantrymen or Army rangers, but they could easily handle being supply specialists or cooks. Also, after a few weeks, they would adapt and be fine. The key is fair and knowledgeable leadership. People can respect a tough leader as long as he is fair and knows what he is doing.
 

Anomaly

Sparrow
Trad Catholic
This is often something Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh comment about and why they both like DeSantis as well (he is not perfect-but he is definitely better than many politicians). The culture war is waking more and more people because it is not as easy to just say 'you do hat you like and I do what I like' as it used to be.

I agree 100% with point #1 about protecting marriage and parental authority.

Point #2 I am not 100% in agreement with. I would be more supportive if the US military only focused on protecting the USA and not other nations. I can't support a draft just to have soldiers invade Iraq or Afghanistan (while pretending they are protecting these nations). I think it would be fine to require military reserves or national guard or possibly border defense as options but perhaps with a 4-6 month full-time service requirement with an additional 1.5-2.5 year part-time commitment.

In my experience, the army was a negative influence. People outside the military have a false impression of honor, courage, and teamwork; I was naïve as well before joining. There was better teamwork as well as few people with gangster attitudes in my job at McDonald's than there was in the military. There were issues with drugs, theft, vandalism, domestic violence, affairs, and alcoholism as well as bad leadership and females getting special treatment. The military base I was on felt like living in a small city ghetto. Surprisingly, racism was not a major issue though despite a lot of diversity-maybe that has changed though. Every unit is different though, maybe I was just in a bad unit. I am curious about the author's military experience (if he was in). He would have a better impression if he were in a well-organized unit with good leaders.
I’m unsure if you are familiar with Z Man. In a recent podcast he want over something related to this: libertarians, nationalists, and conservatives never think about the cold-hearted questions, “What are we going to do about this?!,” and “How can we implement this?!”

It is all talk, complaining, and navel gazing. Libertarians simply dream of a libertarian society. They don’t realize that to get that, there would need to be a violent Revolution to get it started, not waiting for every non-libertarian to die!

WN’s talk of an ethnostate, hardly ever speaking about what would have to happen to establish that in the US!

Conservatives, well, they just whine and bend the knee to women and leftists!
 

Easy_C

Peacock
I disagree. Perhaps they would be too weak to be marine infantrymen or Army rangers, but they could easily handle being supply specialists or cooks. Also, after a few weeks, they would adapt and be fine. The key is fair and knowledgeable leadership. People can respect a tough leader as long as he is fair and knows what he is doing.
Right. Except basic training is "after a few weeks" and they're failing to adapt and be fine. In fact they're getting stress fractures just from the physical activity in basic training (which is a pre-requisite to being a supply specialist or cook, because sometimes they end up having to fight too).
I’m unsure if you are familiar with Z Man. In a recent podcast he want over something related to this: libertarians, nationalists, and conservatives never think about the cold-hearted questions, “What are we going to do about this?!,” and “How can we implement this?!”

One guy did, but I hate to admit it......he was probably a glow.
 

MartyMcFly

Pelican
Other Christian
Right. Except basic training is "after a few weeks" and they're failing to adapt and be fine. In fact they're getting stress fractures just from the physical activity in basic training (which is a pre-requisite to being a supply specialist or cook, because sometimes they end up having to fight too).
In my experience, most people adapted within 1-2 weeks. Of course, this is a mostly voluntary military and the draft will take in more rebellious types. I can't imagine people being much physically weaker and it is not like we had to do extreme exercise. I know knee problems are common (mostly among those that have been in 10+ years) and one issue might be running in formation because this is unnatural for the body. My basic training was 50% female; I believe it was made easier to accommodate them. Maybe the 100% male basic training is a lot harder and injuries are more common.

Yes, even quartermasters may have to fight. However, if you can pass a PT test, that should be enough. The only thing the army would need to do for very weak or obese people is to have an extra month or so of pre-basic training to get people in shape. This would be mostly physical conditioning (gradually increasing the amount of exercise), a very strict diet, and some basic army values training. The key would be to alternate exercises to avoid muscle strain.

Perhaps the military can provide 'safe spaces' and stress cards for those that get stressed easily or perhaps relaxation pods will allow them to meditate so they can better focus after calming down.
 

Nick

Chicken
Orthodox Inquirer
I heard a joke that the earliest example of writing we have artifacts for is basically an old man's screed on a clay tablet complaining about how the younger generation of men are a disappointment.

"Back in my day! Men were Men!"
-Krod Stonemasher
September 19th, 3278 B.C.
 

Anomaly

Sparrow
Trad Catholic
Another old gem from Dr. Pierce in which he discusses the social pathologies in both black and white men caused by loosened societal norms, standards, and institutions over time, resulting in our ever-growing prison population.

What he fails to mention is that over the same course of time, fatherlessness and divorce greatly increased too. Fatherlessness is correlated with crime and anti-social behavior.

 

Blade Runner

Hummingbird
Orthodox
So given this overall problem of numbers, many normal men will be out of a woman!

Let’s also add that 60 percent of college campuses and law schools are women! Some men have thought, “No biggie! Men will just go into trades!”

Uh, not so fast! Many men are not suited for trades or have particular talents that can only be used in professions. And with plenty of status-hungry women around with college degrees, many, perhaps most look down on “uneducated” men, even if they earn decent livings.
So what is the fix? Is there one? Or will the decline last too long ... or will male authoritariansim never once again take hold (we're coming to the end)?
 

Anomaly

Sparrow
Trad Catholic
So what is the fix? Is there one? Or will the decline last too long ... or will male authoritariansim never once again take hold (we're coming to the end)?
I am unsure. But what I do know is that a matriarchal society is unmanageable. Only a total male revolt can correct this and if these current circumstances existed without sedatives like porn, drugs, alcohol, therapists, social media and 24-7 entertainment, there would have been one, I think.
 
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