The Dangerous Women Of Wisconsin

Durden347

Sparrow
Try being an attractive, Alpha male in America, born to Boomer parents, and want NOTHING that modern woman has to offer. Then add Christianity to the mix, with firm Christian based limits on age gaps, and you're in for a real Hell of a life!

- Parents obsess that you aren't having sex, which makes you want to have sex even less
- The world calls you "gay"
- Feminists call you a "bitter mysogynist"
- Liberals call you an "incel"
- Lolbertarians blame "porn and video games" and accuse you of being a "chronic masturbator"
- Cuckservatives call you a "beta" and to "man up" and to "provide"
- Women try to end your life for not sharing your "resources" and seed with the sisterhood
- So called red-pilled delusional betas shriek and call you a "jealous woman" when you tell them that desiring younger women is part of the feminist plan to secure "resources" from men
- Your friends and family eventually disassociate with you because it's "strange" for a man to have goals that don't include sex
- "Christians" literally condemn you to Hell for celibacy, as Paul calls us all to be
- You are overlooked for better jobs and promotions in the workplace because married men with children are more "reliable"

I'd LOVE to be ugly just to get everyone off of my damn back!
It is because you are not truly free when attractive. The reason why you are liked is because you have something to offer to them. They don't value you as a person but your attractiveness as a man that can be used by them. The world truly does not care about anyone but what anyone can offer to them.
 

Kuma

Chicken
It is because you are not truly free when attractive. The reason why you are liked is because you have something to offer to them. They don't value you as a person but your attractiveness as a man that can be used by them. The world truly does not care about anyone but what anyone can offer to them.
Unfortunately this is very true. When I hit a low point in my career about eight years ago (released from my contract as mid-level, tenured college professor due to university downsizing--the one way they could get around tenure rules), I entered a low point for several years of soul-searching. It was almost impossible to even make a friend.

Once I had retooled, gathered my resources, swore off academia, and began starting businesses which have now become prosperous, acquired some rental properties, aircraft, etc...suddenly "friends" are very easy to acquire (trouble is, I don't want them as much anymore).

Looks I believe are more important to a man's perceived attractiveness early in life, as time moves on, appearance wanes and money/status/wits become more important. Giving off a Sean Connery vibe of assertiveness and humor combined with at least perceived wisdom scores big with a lot of people.

Finding Christ was also a key part of this mental turnaround...now I just have to find the right church. Can't stress the importance of trusting in God and his plan enough, even when our human wills and ego want to do our own thing.

A good woman was also key. And by good I mean smart, helpful, cooperative, and industrious but not overbearing, leaching, overly pushing her own agenda, or trying to impose limits on mine.
 
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JohnQThomas

Woodpecker
Why do people still think women respond positively to masculine men? They don’t! You can try to pretend all you want that these women were “attracted” to you because of “limited masculinity of the men of Madison”, but that’s simply not true.

They responded positively to you (non-sexually) for two reasons:


  1. You look as if you are homeless and don’t give a damn about it. Therefore, “confidence”.
  2. As a Silver Fox, you could be poorer than dirt, but her Marxist hypergamy assumes wealth with age.
No question in my mind that these girls flirted with you. But Millennial and Gen Z women haven’t got a clue what real flirting actually is. They claim that a man cracking jokes out of sheer boredom at work is “flirting”, thus he is “leading her on” and has “no confidence” if nothing progresses further. I personally have a lifelong reputation as being a “flirt”, but I assure you, I have never once flirted in my life with anybody. But when a woman is actually flirting with a man and is loose and laid back and warm, she claims that’s she’s just being “polite”.
100% guaranteed that the women you think were open to sexual encounters just simply were not.

As for being more masculine than men in Madison. This may be true. In fact, it probably is. But it’s beyond foolish to pretend that Millennial and Gen Z women are attracted to masculinity today as women of generations past.

Let’s assume that you are correct and that these young women were truly ready to have sex with you. Their respect for you died instantly because you hadn’t even made the attempt. They now view you has having “no confidence” and “low testosterone”. Because feminism has taught women that a man’s purpose is ejaculating and nothing more. Much of the so-called “red pilled” community agrees with this, as they use leftist bullshit like “evolution” to make their argument.

Women today want to be worshipped. They claim to want to be “pursued” and to “feel wanted”, but they never reward the man who “steps up to the plate” and “man’s up” in his pursuit. They do not reward the “approach”.

Instead, they fantasize over the “dark” and “mysterious” guy that isn’t paying her any attention. This is why every guy knows that you never flirt with the girl you like initially, but instead focus on her friend. It’s become a universal truth. A woman doesn’t have her own individualized opinion of you; she forms it based on groupthink. She will call you “ugly” once you piss her or her friends off, but if she sees you as the life of the party in a more dominant group, she reconsiders what is “ugly” very fast.
The problem is, thanks to feminism, they eventually classify the “dark” and “mysterious” man as “weak”. Because he isn’t “hunting”. He isn’t “going after what he wants”. Women today think a tight ass and perky tits is plenty to attract a quality man. They don’t want to put in real effort. They don’t want to give out any sign of interest at all that they are interested in a guy. A “real man” must assume and hope to guess right and not get slapped with a sexual harassment/assault charge. In the animal kingdom, it is the female that puts out a mating call while in heat, inviting the males to “approach”. The modern woman won’t make eye contact with a man. They certainly won’t smile at a man. Instead they will bury their heads into their phones and cry about how there aren’t any “real men” any more, and cry into a box of wine and a pint of Haagen-daas. It’s no wonder that in the 10 years since college, I’ve only physically seen women at a handful of NFL games and two Trump rallies. They literally do nothing to attract men to them. Sure, women may be “everywhere” like what is claimed. But they do nothing to make themselves stand out and for men to take notice.

Young women pick beta losers in college. The settle for the weak man that is overly sexual, regardless of their looks. Because in current year, being thirsty for sex and doing whatever you can to have it is “confidence” to this generation of women. A man who can take it or leave it only if the opportunity presents itself isn’t a “real man”.

After college, women realize that these are not real men, so they condemn all men their own age and they waste their 20s with older men who promise them “something real”, only to discard them when they reach 30 for someone much hotter and younger. At 40, they finally want an actual man again like they did in high school. But we actual men don’t want them, for we are only interested in debt free virgins without tattoos. A man’s prime is not 35, but 27. Which is why men retire from sports in their 30s. Unless already married, a man past his prime has absolutely no need nor interest in women. The companionship a man naturally seeks that modern women are not at all willing to give can be best found in getting a dog. A man at that stage who still has a need to get his rocks off has some severe developmental disorders and high estrogen levels.

Notice too after finding Christianity how much more difficult you have found women to be. You made the hilarious claim that Christian women are not into pre-marital sex. LOL man, I can tell you countless stories about Christian men who lost the “Christian conservative” woman that they thought they were going to marry because they never once made sex a topic of discussion. I have encountered hundred of so-called “Christian” women who claim to be virgins and insist on no sex before marriage, but then insist that their future husbands be “real men” and “moderately experienced” in bed, because they don’t want to “teach them sex” and “how to be a man” on their wedding night. His soul be damned. “Christian conservative” women are the absolute worst kind of woman, with the most unrealistic financial expectations, distorting the Bible to justify expecting men to all be rich in order to “provide”.

Tell one of these “Christian conservative” women that you agree with no pre-marital sex, and their respect for you will diminish instantly. They want the power of denying your advances. Your advances is what gives them their value. ONLY if other women want you however, as expressed entirely to them by your sexual experiences.

I’m interested in reading this book. But your analysis on Madison men and what women really want is simply way, way off. Women of my generation and younger are too far gone, and you are making conclusions based on women of your generation and older.
Agree with much of this—and especially about the value of dogs.
(Want unconditional love, admiration, and respect? Get a dog!)
 

JohnQThomas

Woodpecker
Try being an attractive, Alpha male in America, born to Boomer parents, and want NOTHING that modern woman has to offer. Then add Christianity to the mix, with firm Christian based limits on age gaps, and you're in for a real Hell of a life!

- Parents obsess that you aren't having sex, which makes you want to have sex even less
- The world calls you "gay"
- Feminists call you a "bitter mysogynist"
- Liberals call you an "incel"
- Lolbertarians blame "porn and video games" and accuse you of being a "chronic masturbator"
- Cuckservatives call you a "beta" and to "man up" and to "provide"
- Women try to end your life for not sharing your "resources" and seed with the sisterhood
- So called red-pilled delusional betas shriek and call you a "jealous woman" when you tell them that desiring younger women is part of the feminist plan to secure "resources" from men
- Your friends and family eventually disassociate with you because it's "strange" for a man to have goals that don't include sex
- "Christians" literally condemn you to Hell for celibacy, as Paul calls us all to be
- You are overlooked for better jobs and promotions in the workplace because married men with children are more "reliable"

I'd LOVE to be ugly just to get everyone off of my damn back
The so called feminist plan to secure resources from Men because Men desiring more neotenous and more fertile women who would be younger is total hogwash that sounds like its made up.

And the assumption that Celibacy is a calling for all Christians.

Sorry its either delusion or a troll.
Celibacy is a valid calling for some Christians—but not all denominations are equally hospitable to it. If a man is sure that marriage isn’t for him but his church friends insist otherwise, maybe he’s in the wrong church.
 

JohnQThomas

Woodpecker
Ha, ha, nice spin but no. Jacob went to Rachel's father to get her and was willing to work 7 years to get her. After 7 years the father reneged on the deal and gave him Leah. He then had to work another 7 years to get Rachel. Rachel really had no power in the situation at all.

David saw Bathsheba naked because he was on a higher floor looking down on her and knew he had to have her. David sent her husband Uriah to the front lines knowing he would be killed so he could get Bathsheba.

The women in those examples did not pursue the men. In biblical times men purchased women to be their wives. The social dynamics were completely different from those today. This is why so many people fail at marriage today in the church. They say they are relying on the Bible as their handbook when that is not even possible in today's culture. In those times if your wife committed adultery she was stoned to death. Today she leaves you and gets at least half of your stuff plus alimony.
And not every action described in the Bible is even presented as a model of ideal conduct. (For instance, David getting Uriah killed so he could have Bathsheba.)
 

Lionheart

Sparrow
The New Testament is the Bible. And the Old Testament is the Bible. Unless you reject the New Covenant and Christianity in general.

There is no reason why the Gospels and the writings of the Apostles isn't Scripture.
It's not the Bible in question but some of the modern interpretations. Again, people take modern culture and way of life and try to compare that with biblical culture and way of life. First and second century culture was also way different than today.
 
It's not the Bible in question but some of the modern interpretations. Again, people take modern culture and way of life and try to compare that with biblical culture and way of life. First and second century culture was also way different than today.

The commandments of God via the Scriptures especially that which is set down in the 1st and 2nd centuries aren't just for that time and place but for all time until the 2nd coming.

I don't see any time restrictions in the text for those imperatives.
 

Blade Runner

Pelican
I never said the church said polygamy was accepted I said the Bible said so.
It's likely more on the spectrum of Christ saying "Divorce was permitted because of the hardness of your hearts". Your point on the cultures being different is absolutely true and this is still a critical reason why people struggle so greatly in understanding both new and old testament scriptures in a complete way. Unless they have the Church to guide them - and even then it is hard because so few have a good grounding in what the context of the times and letters really was.
 
It's likely more on the spectrum of Christ saying "Divorce was permitted because of the hardness of your hearts". Your point on the cultures being different is absolutely true and this is still a critical reason why people struggle so greatly in understanding both new and old testament scriptures in a complete way. Unless they have the Church to guide them - and even then it is hard because so few have a good grounding in what the context of the times and letters really was.

Our Lord declared all Food's clean ever since the New Testament. I'd think that it was also with marriage. That while Polygamy was permitted for a time. No longer is it the case in the New Covenant.
 
Reminds me of the saying "Are not all blessings also curses? And all curses also blessings?" Aquinas? Augustine?
It's like seeing that particular doors closed to you but open to others excludes the fact that there are doors closed on others are open to you.

It's what one deals with the hand one is dealt with which will have eternal implications. Likewise one may be shielded from particular spiritual dangers that others will have to endure.
 

Farmlegend

Chicken
It's what one deals with the hand one is dealt with which will have eternal implications. Likewise one may be shielded from particular spiritual dangers that others will have to endure.

At the risk of blasphemy, carve this comment into the granite, place the tablet in Moses’ hands, and behold the burning bush - your words here are perfect. In my journey, this is precisely what I have concluded but never articulated this well.
 

Joe316

Sparrow
But with the Millennial and at least what I perceive even younger generations of girls, the thing I notice about them is that they seem far too wrapped up in their 7 second attention spans to even be able to show any interest to a guy either. Most of them do not seem to notice Men whatsoever and just view Men as to be some kind of entertainment utility and then the next moment they get bored, they need something or someone new to entertain them, so you can't even keep up with them.

I also noticed that there is a distinct generational difference between women my generation (mid 30s and older) and younger (24-29).

If have no problem connecting with older women by just being a masculine man. It creates good chemistry without any effort and both enjoy the interaction. It won't go anywhere, because these women are actually off the market (Christians: married with children, non-Christians: single moms etc.).

However once I turn to unwed women with no children, things become strange really fast when I run conventional game. The more "spark" there is, the less interested they are in moving things forward. Only if the goal is exclusively fornication without any emotional attachment, things go the farthest, before I stop them. This is no different in devout church women I met. I attribute this to all of them watching pornography on a daily basis. What amuses me to no end, is when "Christian" couples on YouTube tell their story how they met: She swiped him on Tinder. The backstory is always the same: She made that account only as "joke" and of course never intended to fornicate (yeah, sure!)

That finding is why I'm not really concerned about authors pulling "pickup artist" guides from the market, because in the end these are entirely outdated and don't reflect post-covid reality, where you swipe your Christian tradwife on Tinder.
 
I also noticed that there is a distinct generational difference between women my generation (mid 30s and older) and younger (24-29).

If have no problem connecting with older women by just being a masculine man. It creates good chemistry without any effort and both enjoy the interaction. It won't go anywhere, because these women are actually off the market (Christians: married with children, non-Christians: single moms etc.).

However once I turn to unwed women with no children, things become strange really fast when I run conventional game. The more "spark" there is, the less interested they are in moving things forward. Only if the goal is exclusively fornication without any emotional attachment, things go the farthest, before I stop them. This is no different in devout church women I met. I attribute this to all of them watching pornography on a daily basis. What amuses me to no end, is when "Christian" couples on YouTube tell their story how they met: She swiped him on Tinder. The backstory is always the same: She made that account only as "joke" and of course never intended to fornicate (yeah, sure!)

That finding is why I'm not really concerned about authors pulling "pickup artist" guides from the market, because in the end these are entirely outdated and don't reflect post-covid reality, where you swipe your Christian tradwife on Tinder.

Unfortunately consequence of promiscuity made to look fun and enjoyable and marriage made to look boring, sexless and stodgy.

And the dynamics reinforce each other as marriages as sabotaged in those ways as much as promiscuity is being promoted.
 

Joe316

Sparrow
Unfortunately consequence of promiscuity made to look fun and enjoyable and marriage made to look boring, sexless and stodgy.

And the dynamics reinforce each other as marriages as sabotaged in those ways as much as promiscuity is being promoted.

Previously gaming women was mostly about teasing commitment while tricking them into fornication (the famous "pump & dump").

Now it seems to be other way around, where players have to tease that the naughty stuff is just waiting behind the next corner while tricking women into marriage. :laughter:

How is a Christian man even going to get anywhere, when "dating" essentially turned into performing a porn script?
 
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