The Dangerous Women Of Wisconsin

JohnQThomas

Woodpecker
- You are overlooked for better jobs and promotions in the workplace because married men with children are more "reliable"
Too many people assume that an unmarried man is an irresponsible playboy who chooses to devote himself to promiscuity. (An idea they may have gotten from PUA/MGTOW/“game” media, as well as from the actual existence of many such men.) Mainstream society is unfamiliar with such concepts as voluntary chastity and single blessedness. These options should be better publicized—just as “game” once was—through blogs, books, podcasts, and so forth. Maybe some mature man who has found God and isn’t really interested in marriage will lead the way. An established writer might make this the subject of his next book. (Suggested titles: “Single Blessedness Game”, “Celibate and Loving It”, “Happily Single”, “Married to God”, or “I Kissed Kissing Goodbye”.)
 
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JohnQThomas

Woodpecker
However once I turn to unwed women with no children, things become strange really fast when I run conventional game. The more "spark" there is, the less interested they are in moving things forward. Only if the goal is exclusively fornication without any emotional attachment, things go the farthest, before I stop them. This is no different in devout church women I met.
Maybe what (genuinely) Christian women want in a husband is something more substantive than “conventional game” or “spark”. Maybe sensible Christian women actually ARE looking for that “boring beta” we’ve long been saying they “should” prefer.
 

TexasJenn

Sparrow
Woman
Maybe sensible Christian women actually ARE looking for that “boring beta” we’ve long been saying they “should” prefer.
I think a woman with any sense is turned off by a guy "running game" on her. Nobody with half a brain and any vision responds well to manipulation attempts.
 

stugatz

Pelican
I think a woman with any sense is turned off by a guy "running game" on her. Nobody with half a brain and any vision responds well to manipulation attempts.
If it looks like it’s cannned and not a genuine icebreaker, sure.

But a lot of what was described as “daygame” recently was men finding ways to introduce themselves to women they would normally not be able to say hi to without making it strange (in line at the bank, at the gym, etc). Having a gift of gab is very key.
 

TexasJenn

Sparrow
Woman
I agree that friendly conversation is always a good thing. But if a guy's trying too hard to manufacture "spark," discerning women will be suspicious and guarded.
 

Joe316

Robin
Maybe what (genuinely) Christian women want in a husband is something more substantive than “conventional game” or “spark”. Maybe sensible Christian women actually ARE looking for that “boring beta” we’ve long been saying they “should” prefer.

The reality is that the surrounding culture determines mating rituals. That was already true in the Old Testament, where polygamy was a cultural fact even God's people practiced. In today's culture fornication is a fact. And it's going to get much worse down the road.

The western woman looks for a male, who submits to her and her sexual desires (against everything the Bible teaches). That's how the modern Christian marriage works, which can be observed in Western churches. However I hoped nobody here would call this model "sensible".

I think a woman with any sense is turned off by a guy "running game" on her.

I remember the times when this forum was men-only, because that's as blue pill as it gets.
 
I think a woman with any sense is turned off by a guy "running game" on her. Nobody with half a brain and any vision responds well to manipulation attempts.
In actual fact „running game“ is very succesful, as the example of this forum‘s earlier purpose displays. Game is not to just have a one fit method to interacting with women, but rather a redpilled view of women and a kind of smoothnes and trained conversation skills. Pair that with good looks(not even required) and confidence and in our fornicating social most women are hooked immediately.
 

Joe316

Robin
In actual fact „running game“ is very succesful, as the example of this forum‘s earlier purpose displays. Game is not to just have a one fit method to interacting with women, but rather a redpilled view of women and a kind of smoothnes and trained conversation skills. Pair that with good looks(not even required) and confidence and in our fornicating social most women are hooked immediately.

Exactly. Once you ingrained the pill, you can't go back to simping, which became the social norm in the West.

Masculine men tend to go after things, which provide a challenge and are hard to acquire. It used to be that young men with testosterone levels much higher than today invested a lot of effort into hunting down porn magazines, film rolls and later tapes. Nowadays men put the same effort into abstaining the curse of omnipresent digital pornography. It's the same with fornication: It's not slightest challenge anymore to sleep with women (it was two decades ago) - it's harder to stay chaste while everyone puts out in their yoga pants.

Commitment and passing on your genes is where they real hard challenge lies. At some point the question comes up how far you want to go into the established practices of your surrounding degenerate culture as means to a sacred end. Looking at Old Testament examples, where Jacob just wanted to marry Rachel and was essentially forced into polygamy by Laban contrary to God's design of marriage, doesn't provide much hope, that you're able to escape the surrounding culture.
 
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In actual fact „running game“ is very succesful, as the example of this forum‘s earlier purpose displays. Game is not to just have a one fit method to interacting with women, but rather a redpilled view of women and a kind of smoothnes and trained conversation skills. Pair that with good looks(not even required) and confidence and in our fornicating social most women are hooked immediately.
Edit: „in our fornicating social sphere“
 

TexasJenn

Sparrow
Woman
It's not slightest challenge anymore to sleep with women (it was two decades ago) - it's harder to stay chaste while everyone puts out in their yoga pants.
Personally, I've always respected and been drawn to men with greater vision than the next dopamine hit, been just as repelled by promiscuous men as many of you guys are repelled by promiscuous women.

I've been hoping for a long time that more men would start waking up to the fact that the playboy lifestyle is a dead end, happy to see the tide slowly turning. I applaud and celebrate those of you taking this "narrow way." Our future depends on it.

I'm considering looking for a romantic partner soon, and I won't consider any kind of man but this one. Yes, I know you're still needles in a haystack. I'm good with that.
 
I agree that friendly conversation is always a good thing. But if a guy's trying too hard to manufacture "spark," discerning women will be suspicious and guarded.

It started as canned lines. But it has been field tested again and again. So now its would be hard to spot when done well.

It would look organic. Likewise what women say and the Men they actually end up with are often at odds.

Like those who say they want "nice, sensitive Men" actually are attracted to and end up with "Bad boys". Guys in leather riding motorcycles for example. Or Chad.
 

Sparkaii

Chicken
Woman
Feminist ideology is affecting young men today and making them more effeminate. The young men these days want to be women. Bring back masculine men, who are assertive, confident and want to take leadership!
 

Joe316

Robin
Feminist ideology is affecting young men today and making them more effeminate. The young men these days want to be women. Bring back masculine men, who are assertive, confident and want to take leadership!

These men exist, it's just young women don't want them, as they want to lead (or more bluntly spoken control) men.
 

aogilmore

Chicken
Actually to be honest, my own experiences where I've been told that a certain girl likes me, were actually people trying to taunt me and create problems, they were lies setup to trap me or humiliate when trying to pursue the girl. So I wouldn't have much to speak on about it.

I had that happen only once when I was like 13, and the girl was like 14. Adolescent girls can get wild and unaccountably mean. She got off on luring me with her friend (who as I remember was a minor attraction) and then cancelling and telling me that her friend didn't like me after all. Sick burn! Haha
 
An old country song goes like this:

Always marry an ugly girl
That's the only kind
She'll never ever leave you
And if she does you won't mind!

Pretty funny. But not good advice at all. Either go for passable and with good enough character or not at all if one has to make a choice. Of course the better looking, healthy with good character is better and should be preferred.
 
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