The Dangers of Becoming Obsessed with Jewish Perfidy, Black Crime, and Similar Issues

Aboulia

Woodpecker
The New Testament does not support this theology, I suggest the entirety of Romans 11 rebuts this exact thinking that began to creep in to the early Church.

*I edited my reply as the more I read your response, the more I see there is some truth to it. Some Jews did indeed convert, and the Church has done a far better job of spreading the Gospel than the Jewish nation ever did. But, the Church absolutely DID NOT replace the nation of Israel and the covenants God established with them in the Old Testament.


They were "chosen" to bring forth Our Lord, God, and Saviour Jesus Christ. That's it. That's the entirety of their "chosen" status, because God has this strange way of exalting the weak over the strong, the poor over the rich, and the insignificant over the well known, so it only follows that he bring forth the perfect man and perfect God from the most morally disgusting people known today. If Jesus Christ can come from the Jews, what's everyone else's excuse?

I suggest you go back a few pages and read Romans 2:28-29, then Romans 4, and if you still insist, go read Matthew 3:7-12, paying close attention to verse 9, it's a good one, then ponder on the Parable of the Vineyard, follow up with reading the entirety of Galatians.

They don't have a temple anymore, they couldn't practice Old Testament Judaism even if they wanted to, their only option is Christ

Point is, God doesn't care which group you are born into, he cares how you act with what you've been given.
 
Hey OP, if you want to defend a bunch of baby-murderers, pornographers, and servants of the fallen angels, thats on your conscience, and inevitably your soul. I won't. I won't actively try to destroy them like the moosies are, but they won't get an ounce of help from me until they convert to Christ. Whenever someone starts cucking for that little patch of desert it makes me cringe. The scripture talks about the church, the body of Christ, the people who believe in the Son of the Father, not talmudic rabbinical extremists that hang on to the same earhly dogma from before Christ's walk on this earth. God's chosen are the wellspring of life, not those who poison its roots. I'm reminded of this:

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In addition to what I said earlier, it is also important to remember what the Bible teaches about nations and their downfalls. Throughout the Old Testament, there is only ever one reason why God's chosen people fall into slavery, plague, famine, or oppression: they apostatized from God. When that happens, God destroys them in any number of ways in order to bring them to their senses; which is to say, repentance. When Israel turned from God, He raised up their enemies to crush them: "I will bring a distant nation against you - an ancient and enduring nation, a people whose language you do not know, whose speech you do not understand" (Jeremiah 5:15). He will raise your enemy's army to utterly destroy your nation unless and until you repent and turn back to Him, and this is perfectly in line with both His justice and His mercy.

Too many people are getting the order wrong, they say "our enemies are conquering us and thus, our faith has become weak." The Bible says the opposite: your faith has become weak, and so your enemies are conquering you. Every single time, the answer is the same: repent, stop sinning, and turn back to God. Then He will grant you and your nation health instead of giving power to your enemies. God does not "spare the rod" to spoil you, and the conquest of a nation is nothing but His way of trying to correct their wicked ways and bring them back to Him.
 
This is the position of the Catholic Church:

The Jews are the chosen people.

Christianity is the fulfilment of the Jewish religion.

Jesus won't return until the Jews (as a group) accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah.

"The glorious Messiah's coming is suspended at every moment of history until his recognition by 'all Israel,' for 'a hardening has come upon part of Israel' in their 'unbelief' toward Jesus [Rom 11:20-26; cf. Mt 23:39]. The 'full inclusion' of the Jews in the Messiah's salvation, in the wake of 'the full number of the Gentiles' [Rom 11:12, 25; cf. Lk 21:24], will enable the People of God to achieve 'the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ,' in which 'God may be all in all" (Catechism of the Catholic Church).
 

Grow Bag

Kingfisher
Too much focus on Jews as villains? It's quite the opposite.

Look, the reality is there are plenty of evil, bad, satanic, degenerate, cheating, lieing white people.
Just as there are in any society, bad members of that society.
If we eliminated the foreign leech, we would have plenty of our own problems to deal with.

The narrative is not that Jews are the villains of the world, but instead that Jews are hated for no reason whatsoever, just hatred of them, and that their behavior has nothing to do with it, when in fact their destructive and satanic behavior is universally disliked in every culture in the world (even to some extent in Israel itself!)

Yes, you can ignore them. It is probably good for a lot of people to ignore a lot of the stuff going on. It's not good to think a lot about child drag time library hour for example (organized by Jews BTW), but you don't really need a thread about it. Just tune out. Find a good wife. Find some good positive hobbies or interests. Ignore the negative stuff. The best pastor I ever had, said "Take the Good, and Leave the rest behind" which is the best philosophy I have heard for life.

But there will be others that will call out, criticize and fight evil, and not ignore it. Those that will sacrifice their lives the way Morpheus did, to continue the analogy, in the fight for good, and these are heros and should be commended.
You've missed the point of my post, maybe I should flesh it out a bit. I agree with what you've written, but my point was not to ignore Jewish shenanigans, but to understand them. As a rule Europeans and Jews are so different morally, that it makes it easy for us to have an aversion to the way they operate and view them as our main enemy. Jews are pragmatic and utilitarian, if it works, no matter how morally repugnant, they'll do it. Europeans, especially northern Europeans, still have notions of fair play, etc., but we've also assimilated this Jewish immorality to great degree because as people we've lost our faith in God and placed it in man. Even though we still don't like injustice, cheating, lying, the sucker punch etc., because we still have the vestiges of a moral compass, we're still losing it fast by adopting many Jewish traits. As we well know, Jews, in the main, only pretend to fight for justice, when in reality they're simply using it as a vehicle for their own ends. Granted, most of them are unaware of the contradictions in their behaviour, but that's because the blind is down.

Using Alex Ferguson as an example, my point was winning by any means necessary is now entrenched in European behaviour. Jews aren't the problem, we are. By abandoning Christian virtue piecemeal, we've sunk into the mire and instead of pointing the finger at the culprits, maybe we ought to focus on getting out of the swamp by taking responsibility for our own shortcomings. The villain isn't the Jew, it's the lack of Christian virtue in us as a people. If we took care of our own spiritual wellbeing and had the courage of our convictions, we'd be standing on solid ground now. By constantly focusing on what the enemy are doing, we're inadvertently giving them way too much credit, something I'm all too guilty of myself. Instead of red-pilling people on the JQ, we should be rebuking each other for our own failings. Sin is sin, not matter who is committing it and sin leaves the door open for the devil to play. In being preoccupied by temporal issues, we've lost sight of the spiritual struggle.

One only has to look at the mammoth Election thread to see this. Trump was never any kind of saviour, only Christ saves, but look at how many Christians placed their faith in Trump and were crestfallen when he lost. I understand that, I got caught up in it myself, but I do wonder how many of us would've strongly objected if Trump had cheated his way back into office. My bet is that many would've just shrugged and rationalised the affair. The thing is if Trump had drained the swamp in himself he would've come last temporally, yet first spiritually.

I don't believe in soap box evangelism, we attract by being attractive. Few words and strong principles is the strength the lost are looking for. They will soon come to understand the light shining in a man due to his faith in Christ and will find the gospel themselves. Missionaries were running around the world looking for converts, not seeing that the mission was far from complete in their own backyard, in many cases in themselves in fact. Roosh's American tour was a case in point. The mission is here, not there. It's mainly with me, not you and I'm not doing all that well right now.

Just my thoughts.
 

Steiner

Sparrow
This is the position of the Catholic Church:

The Jews are the chosen people.

Christianity is the fulfilment of the Jewish religion.

Jesus won't return until the Jews (as a group) accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah.

"The glorious Messiah's coming is suspended at every moment of history until his recognition by 'all Israel,' for 'a hardening has come upon part of Israel' in their 'unbelief' toward Jesus [Rom 11:20-26; cf. Mt 23:39]. The 'full inclusion' of the Jews in the Messiah's salvation, in the wake of 'the full number of the Gentiles' [Rom 11:12, 25; cf. Lk 21:24], will enable the People of God to achieve 'the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ,' in which 'God may be all in all" (Catechism of the Catholic Church).

Catholics do not believe the modern day Jews to be God's chosen people (although Vatican 2 muddies all of this up). They are not the same Jews as the Old Testament Jews. They believe in a New Covenant, encompassing everyone - like you quoted all Jews and Gentiles. The Catechism is a very complicated document that really can't be cherry picked. It needs to be read fully to understand at all. I will say in decades of attending Catholic church I have never heard any Priest refer to Jews explicitly as chosen people, outside of quoting our Old Testament readings. Just posting this to illustrate what I am saying:

"5. From the very beginning, the Lord Jesus "called to Himself those whom He wished; and He caused twelve of them to be with Him, and to be sent out preaching (Mark 3:13; cf. Matt. 10:1-42). Thus the Apostles were the first budding - forth of the New Israel, and at the same time the beginning of the sacred hierarchy. Then, when He had by His death and His resurrection completed once for all in Himself the mysteries of our salvation and the renewal of all things, the Lord, having now received all power in heaven and on earth (cf. Matt. 28 18), before He was taken up into heaven (cf. Acts 1:11), founded His Church as the sacrament of salvation and sent His Apostles into all the world just as He Himself had been sent by His Father (cf. John 20:21), commanding them: "Go, therefore, and make disciples of a nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit; teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you" (Matt. 28:19 ff.). "Go into the whole world, preach the Gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he who does not believe, shall be condemned" (Mark 16:15ff.)"
 

FactusIRX

Kingfisher
This is the position of the Catholic Church:

The Jews are the chosen people.

Christianity is the fulfilment of the Jewish religion.

Jesus won't return until the Jews (as a group) accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah.

"The glorious Messiah's coming is suspended at every moment of history until his recognition by 'all Israel,' for 'a hardening has come upon part of Israel' in their 'unbelief' toward Jesus [Rom 11:20-26; cf. Mt 23:39]. The 'full inclusion' of the Jews in the Messiah's salvation, in the wake of 'the full number of the Gentiles' [Rom 11:12, 25; cf. Lk 21:24], will enable the People of God to achieve 'the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ,' in which 'God may be all in all" (Catechism of the Catholic Church).
This is not the position of the Catholic Church at all. Where are these people coming from?
 

Steiner

Sparrow
This is not the position of the Catholic Church at all. Where are these people coming from?
They come out of the woodwork whenever these subjects come up. The traditional Catholic church was literally one of the most "Anti-Semitic" institutions the world has ever seen. They get attacked by the left for killing tons of Jews, and attacked by fringe-right for somehow worshiping them :laughter:
 

FactusIRX

Kingfisher
They come out of the woodwork whenever these subjects come up. The traditional Catholic church was literally one of the most "Anti-Semitic" institutions the world has ever seen. They get attacked by the left for killing tons of Jews, and attacked by fringe-right for somehow worshiping them :laughter:
That's the life of the Catholic Church. Enemies attack it on all fronts. The secular left calls it anti-Semitic. The fascist right attacks it as undermining European heritage and worshipping a dead Jew. The protestants attack it. The Orthodox attack it. Islam hates it. Orthodox Jews hate it. The heretical modernists within the Catholic Church try to undermine it. Heck, even the traditional Catholics as sedevacantists try to delegitimize it. And that's just in recent memory. I don't think there has been any institution on the planet that has so many enemies that want it gone, and, yet, She perseveres.
 

Max Roscoe

Kingfisher
The villain isn't the Jew, it's the lack of Christian virtue in us as a people.
Fully agree with this, but at the same time I'm not sure any society can survive under Jewish influence. There's a reason 109 countries kicked them out. Say whatever you want about the high crime rates we suffer under with blacks, or the shenanigans of the Italians and the weird antics of whatever mideastern race, no one ever talks about expunging them completely from society. Jewish influence is so perfidious that they are routinely pogrommed or killed throughout history, and it is because the threat to the host civilization is so enormous.
 

Pantheon

Sparrow
When you think of it from a spiritual perspective, you can't help but to think there is something uncanny about the chosen tribe. They almost seem alienated from the rest of humanity, which ultimately goes back on their rejection of Jesus Christ. Thus, their religion has not universalized, and they remain circumsized from the rest of the world. In any case, most secular, right-wing hatred and paranoia towards them is just bathshit insane.
 

Topo

Chicken
When you think of it from a spiritual perspective, you can't help but to think there is something uncanny about the chosen tribe. They almost seem alienated from the rest of humanity, which ultimately goes back on their rejection of Jesus Christ. Thus, their religion has not universalized, and they remain circumsized from the rest of the world. In any case, most secular, right-wing hatred and paranoia towards them is just bathshit insane.
Is that so?
 

jollycynic

Sparrow
Good thread. While I love this forum, I think it teeters dangerously close to anti-Semitic attitudes sometimes, which is a sure fire way to have God's wrath directed at you. While all the negatives associated with what they are doing to this country has some merit, they are still God's people and he will preserve them to the end times as he has promised. Condemn their actions, but be careful about condemning the people.
Are a people so degraded that only 144,000 of them will be saved in the end times really still His people?
 

Mikhail

Chicken
Hey OP, if you want to defend a bunch of baby-murderers, pornographers, and servants of the fallen angels, thats on your conscience, and inevitably your soul. I won't.
This is not what OP is suggesting. Even though the so-called Jews of today are in the Synagogue of Satan due to their rejection of Christ and acceptance of evil, there is far more to evil. He is suggesting that "harping on the Jews" has become an obsession for some, and that the energy spent on it could be better used elsewhere. While we should all be aware of and be willing to combat the evils of the world, we also need to take a look inward at ourselves and square away our own issues.

People like EMJ focus and harp on the Jewish/Zionist issue out of love for the truth. Others focus on it out of pure hatred. There is a big difference, and the latter is unacceptable.
 
When you think of it from a spiritual perspective, you can't help but to think there is something uncanny about the chosen tribe. They almost seem alienated from the rest of humanity, which ultimately goes back on their rejection of Jesus Christ. Thus, their religion has not universalized, and they remain circumsized from the rest of the world. In any case, most secular, right-wing hatred and paranoia towards them is just bathshit insane.
I recommend you to watch next Roosh Hour and put your glasses on. I'm curious about your position afterwards :)

 

Philonous

Pigeon
Not to worry about Jews having undo influence over your civil government, nor of blacks committing disproportionate acts of violence against non-blacks (especially against whites—and often with the taciturn or overt approval of Jews)?

Not to even have enough human concern over this topic to regularly discuss it?

Well, it seems to me if your focus is entirely on yourself or your own family, and your only interaction are with similarly solipsistic conservatives, then I don’t think it much matters (((who))) are the greatest influencers/controllers of your civil government, nor whatever dark-skinned demographic such overseers manipulate to enforce their will, seeing as you’re not going to be doing anything to effect a change in that government anyway. You’re basically a human remora fish that rides along the body of the larger society, but in no way impacts its course of its direction.
 

eradicator

Peacock
Gold Member
I do not have a problem with Jews, just the (((deep state)))

99% of the Jews are totally fine and most probably understand that the (((oligarchs))) and (((deep state))) puppet masters don’t actually have their best interests in mind even though they are all (((Jews)))
 
The Jews want you obsessed with them because when you chimp out it justifies keeping the toxic dynamic going.

This is classic narcissist manipulation.

The reality is that most on-the-ground Jews aren't close to the levers if power and a few of those may even be inquirers to the true Christian religion. If we reject them solely on a genetic basis, it could scandalize them back into the rabbinical fold.

They want "anti-semitism" to ensure group cohesion. What better way to ensure they act as one man than by encouraging a victim mentality and ensuing behaviors in such a way as to get others to hate them.

Persecution is the glue of their group. Otherwise they cease to be one collective man.
 
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