The David Icke thread

kingtufti

 
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He's a massive faker. The only uncertainty is whether he's just a wee con artist, or someone much more sinister.

I dunno... if he's a 'faker' he's been holding up a pretty strong act for three decades+...

I think more likely he was played in the early days... given LSD laced tea and then set loose on Wogan?

If you speak to anyone of my fathers' generation in the UK, and drop the name 'David Icke'... any credibility to your argument is lost in an instant... so either way, that Wogan appearance did the job.

You think he's controlled oppo?

If so he's a fantastic actor, who hasn't broken role (or been caught out) for 30 years...

If you ask me, he was just way ahead of the curve and talking publicly about deep philosophies before the world was ready.

And who's to say reptillians don't run the world? It would certainly explain a lot.

I do see your view though... if you were going to have someone out there voicing 'truth', it's a perfect mix of 90% real and 10% 'the moon is made of cheese'...

And there is a pattern (it seems to me) of disclosing deeper and deeper truths just behind the curve, as dark secrets are revealed elsewhere...

I dunno... and how has he not been off'd?

Maybe Occam's razor... he's a widely perceived fruitloop, who actually plays into normie refrains of "what else do you believe in?? Flat earth!? The Queen's a lizard!?"))
 
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Geo Martin

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I do hold a soft spot for Icke, as I do for Alex Jones, Alan Watt and Bill Cooper. A decade ago they blew my mind as I took a crash course in conspiracies, all those rabbit holes man, fascinating. Things I'd always been wary and suspicious about started to make sense, well at least I wasn't the only crazy one not buying hook line and sinker the officialdom's versions for everything.
I don't follow much what they do anymore, but from time to time I come across some of what Icke and Jones are into as they are still active, well at least they are coherent albeit a limited hangout.
They are useful as a counter act to the official govt corp media which is great but only on a worldly level. On a spiritual level and as a Christian those are not the people I want to listen to.

Another interesting point is that Icke got denied entry to Australia to give a lecture or performance not long before the covid era, maybe in 2018 I'm not sure.
Knowing now that Icke called out the lie from the beginning and how Australia has gone batshit tyrannical, is evidence that in that country a totalitarian system was already in the making.
 

Lawrence87

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Orthodox
My impression is that David Icke is a nice man, but it seems like he is too credulous for his own good. He's on the money in some regard, then he goes totally off the rails in others. Some might posit that this is due to him being some kind of agent to discredit conspiracy theorists, by mixing the legit with the insane. However my genuine impression of the man is that he is a decent person, but he is extremely credulous, and maybe he gets fed stuff to put him in the position of discrediting conspiracy theories, but I don't think he'd willingly put himself in that position. The reason I say this is based on this clip where Karl Pilkington goes to meet him:


The way he speaks to Karl (who often gets maligned for being simple) just gives me the impression that he's a decent, well meaning person.
 

El Draque

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Orthodox
My impression is that David Icke is a nice man, but it seems like he is too credulous for his own good. He's on the money in some regard, then he goes totally off the rails in others. Some might posit that this is due to him being some kind of agent to discredit conspiracy theorists, by mixing the legit with the insane. However my genuine impression of the man is that he is a decent person, but he is extremely credulous, and maybe he gets fed stuff to put him in the position of discrediting conspiracy theories, but I don't think he'd willingly put himself in that position. The reason I say this is based on this clip where Karl Pilkington goes to meet him:


The way he speaks to Karl (who often gets maligned for being simple) just gives me the impression that he's a decent, well meaning person.

Bizarre as it may sound, i think Icke's quite a down to earth bloke underneat it all.

I very much think he is working a gig. Whether this was always the case or not i don't know, but clearly he's done very well out of it all, by accident or design.

Whether you want to ascribe a malign intent on his gig (eg GCHQs way of pissing in the well of the wider Truth movement), keeping people away from Christianity, I dont know.

I have to have my doubts of a man who's been in this deep for 30 plus years, and still isn't Christian. How can you not see this as a spiritual war, in which Christ is the redeemer? He talks about 'energies' and 'vibrations' and other New Age concepts, and always has. Its this that concerns me about him. Again, whether thats a malign, trickster intent, or just a Boomer hippy, who knows.
 

Geo Martin

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Catholic
Bizarre as it may sound, i think Icke's quite a down to earth bloke underneat it all.

I very much think he is working a gig. Whether this was always the case or not i don't know, but clearly he's done very well out of it all, by accident or design.

Whether you want to ascribe a malign intent on his gig (eg GCHQs way of pissing in the well of the wider Truth movement), keeping people away from Christianity, I dont know.

I have to have my doubts of a man who's been in this deep for 30 plus years, and still isn't Christian. How can you not see this as a spiritual war, in which Christ is the redeemer? He talks about 'energies' and 'vibrations' and other New Age concepts, and always has. Its this that concerns me about him. Again, whether thats a malign, trickster intent, or just a Boomer hippy, who knows.
The thing is those forces can manipulate someone without that someone even being aware. So they could go, right this fella Icke sounds like a total whackjob to the normies, we can use him to discredit the truth movement. We don't even need to pay him, but misquote him, set him up etc.
Look what happened with that bloke Nick Griffin and his BNP, how they used him and that banner to obliterate the idea of a genuine British movement. Whatever one thinks about him personally, I never heard him say anything racist at all, to say that an african is not ethnically british is an accurate fact of nature, but explain that to the snowflake BBC swallowing brigade. Africans know this is true, they can say it and be praised, but we say it and are called racist.
Anyway the point is they can use anyone for character assessination and public misperception of the truth.
 

El Draque

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Orthodox
The thing is those forces can manipulate someone without that someone even being aware. So they could go, right this fella Icke sounds like a total whackjob to the normies, we can use him to discredit the truth movement. We don't even need to pay him, but misquote him, set him up etc.
Look what happened with that bloke Nick Griffin and his BNP, how they used him and that banner to obliterate the idea of a genuine British movement. Whatever one thinks about him personally, I never heard him say anything racist at all, to say that an african is not ethnically british is an accurate fact of nature, but explain that to the snowflake BBC swallowing brigade. Africans know this is true, they can say it and be praised, but we say it and are called racist.
Anyway the point is they can use anyone for character assessination and public misperception of the truth.

Yes, essentialy a Useful Idiot is a lot more likely than some sort of openly two-faced 'agent', that would require round the clock acting / undercover work. Easier to just waft up a nut-job. Give them enough rope to hang the whole movement, at least in NPC eyes.

That said i'm certain there's files on the likes of Icke at GCHQ and all sorts of agencies will have tabs on him. They will likely interract with him by degrees too.

If we are to be conspiratorial here (no pun), then there's that New Age trust he's involved with, which is quite clearly fruit from the Lucis Foundation Luciferian root. All typical 'auras and energies' style guff on the outside, but quite categorically malign from its core.

Also that picture of him sitting on that 'throne' or whatever it is, that is clearly Masonic. Maybe he thought he was thumbing his nose to them by doing so, but it looked pretty dodgy, and from the article i recall reading that quoted it, was one of many tells that he may be a knowing dis-info agent for the Freemasons.

Frankly, who knows. I dont really consume his content, i find it soul-sapping. Which is exactly what all this stuff is, if its not framed within a broader Christian perspective.
 

Geo Martin

Woodpecker
Catholic
Yes, essentialy a Useful Idiot is a lot more likely than some sort of openly two-faced 'agent', that would require round the clock acting / undercover work. Easier to just waft up a nut-job. Give them enough rope to hang the whole movement, at least in NPC eyes.

That said i'm certain there's files on the likes of Icke at GCHQ and all sorts of agencies will have tabs on him. They will likely interract with him by degrees too.

If we are to be conspiratorial here (no pun), then there's that New Age trust he's involved with, which is quite clearly fruit from the Lucis Foundation Luciferian root. All typical 'auras and energies' style guff on the outside, but quite categorically malign from its core.

Also that picture of him sitting on that 'throne' or whatever it is, that is clearly Masonic. Maybe he thought he was thumbing his nose to them by doing so, but it looked pretty dodgy, and from the article i recall reading that quoted it, was one of many tells that he may be a knowing dis-info agent for the Freemasons.

Frankly, who knows. I dont really consume his content, i find it soul-sapping. Which is exactly what all this stuff is, if its not framed within a broader Christian perspective.
No, I agree, it's quite obvious he poses no threat to the establishment behind the scenes. I'm not saying one should be martyred to be believable but the wayward rock star status, including the chance to address the masses at a few of those London protests should be enough give away.
But again I think Icke has been riding the wave he's been allowed to ride, he's not daft so I assume he knows this and plays the game to a tee.
Finally, as soon as someone's message, as useful as it may be, is contrary or ambigious to that of Christ, it's to be avoided like the plague, or should I say like the vax. I'm sure that's why he's let loose, nothing changes from his exposes, the elite are not quaking in their boots, it's all business as usual. Only when someone comes with the real Truth that only comes from God and is manifested in his son, that's when they get uneasy. New age stuff is absolutely welcome by the people of this world.

Anyway, I didn't know his involvement with a new age trust, interesting. I thought he was more like one of those typical boomers with 60s deluded ideas of ascended masters and the forces of the universe. But in his case it goes a little deeper than surface level boomerism.
 

El Draque

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Anyway, I didn't know his involvement with a new age trust, interesting. I thought he was more like one of those typical boomers with 60s deluded ideas of ascended masters and the forces of the universe. But in his case it goes a little deeper than surface level boomerism.

The whole of the 60s Counter Culture was driven by Occultists, and Freemasons. The Beatles especially are utterly Luciferian and always were.

That trust i'm trying to find the details of, perhaps it was in this thread, but it's very sus. The main protagonist / leader, is (((Usual Suspect))) and it effectively operates as a media org that propels these various 'energies and spirit guide' types into public eye.

I'll have a dig and see if can find it, but Icke was involved for sure.
 

Geo Martin

Woodpecker
Catholic
The whole of the 60s Counter Culture was driven by Occultists, and Freemasons. The Beatles especially are utterly Luciferian and always were.
For sure. The Beatles were a creation of the Frankfurt school and Tavistock institute. I'm sure they were talented guys and all, just like many others. That's the allure for the public really. But all those dealings with people like Huxley, Tim Leary, the guru from India whatever his name was, their shennanigans in Laurel Canyon (excellent research on this by the late Dave McGowan in his book btw), vegetarianism, etc. They were instrumental in introducing non Christian paganistic ideologies into the west.
Also there's no coincidence like many others are introduced as wholesome nice people, family friendly, to then turn into devil worshipping ghouls, like more recently happened with that Miley Cyrus character.
Those guys denouncing satanism in popular music back in the 70s, 80s and 90s had a good point.
 

Grow Bag

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Orthodox Inquirer
Essential viewing.
I hadn't watched that before. I'm not at all surprised he's a Mason. As for his declarations that there is only infinite love, everything else is an illusion, I'll leave it to 33rd degree Mason Albert Pike to explain exactly what Icke means by that:

"Of that Equilibrium between Good and Evil, and Light and Darkness in the world, which assures us that all is the work of the Infinite Wisdom and of an Infinite Love; and that there is no rebellious demon of Evil, or Principle of Darkness co-existent and in eternal controversy with God, or the Principle of Light and of Good: by attaining to the knowledge of which equilibrium we can, through Faith, see that the existence of Evil, Sin, Suffering, and Sorrow in the world, is consistent with the Infinite Goodness as well as with the Infinite Wisdom of the Almighty."

Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike 1871
 

El Draque

Pelican
Orthodox
Lot of information on him here.

"So onto the ritual. Icke spoke of the lion sleeping no more, a common theme and the subtitle of one of his samey books. On freemasonry this refers to King Solomon, the Lion of Judah, and lions are a symbol of resurrection. The ritual is about the resurrection of the temple...
Which is the endgame of the New World Order - antichrist king of the NWO sitting on his throne in the rebuilt Solomon's Temple in, where else, Israel. So by joining in this ritual he gained people's consent via deception but also used revelation of the method to tell us
Freemasons use signs, symbols and codes to tell us what they do and of we do not resist then they assume we have consented. I really do not consent. Learning these codes and symbolism is crucial to understanding these 'elites' because they are all 33rd degree freemasons"

 

Geo Martin

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Catholic
I hadn't watched that before. I'm not at all surprised he's a Mason. As for his declarations that there is only infinite love, everything else is an illusion, I'll leave it to 33rd degree Mason Albert Pike to explain exactly what Icke means by that:
It's hard to understand why someone in that frame of mind could coherently argue against the 'great reset', the NWO, mass jab-ination and so on, when at the root of their beliefs there isn't ojective good and evil. The fundamentals of their tenets are that reality is in flux, evolving, it's created as we go. That implies that group consent is the basis for truth, not God.
So, according to those images and texts Icke is a mason, which begs the question whether he really is questioning the satanic system that's percolated all structures of power, or he is playing a part for them, or he's a raving lunatic allowed to roam around peddling confussion.

I fact, I must conclude that anyone in the alternative media who questions the current system from an athesitic, or paganistic stance is a fake, consciously or otherwise, no matter, they're part of the reason the system they themselves criticise is in place.
 

El Draque

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Orthodox
Not for an Orthodox, sorry. I made the mistake of watching two of his videos and in the second video he spouts blasphemy against the Theotokos.

Rejected and anathema.

I'm not interested in anything of his beyond that video in question, investigating Icke.

I dont know the nature of his previous work (feel free to expand on what he's said re Theotokos), but if you reject every bit of information that comes from someone, because you dont agree with them on a separate issue, i'd suggest that's a bit extreme.
 

NickK

 
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I'm not interested in anything of his beyond that video in question, investigating Icke.

I dont know the nature of his previous work (feel free to expand on what he's said re Theotokos), but if you reject every bit of information that comes from someone, because you dont agree with them on a separate issue, i'd suggest that's a bit extreme.
I don't want to repeat what he said, it's too vile.
As for the rest of his research, he is right about Icke and some of his research on ancient pagan gods is mixed.
On the whole, anyone who speaks such blasphemies is not guided by the Holy Spirit, which means he only has his own mind to work with with some demonic interference.
Hence, the mixed results. I don't think these types are what I should lean on for information, it will only confuse and poison.
 

newcomer

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I remember London Real doing interview with David Icke. It was deleted from YouTube day later. What followed were a series of videos by London Real acussing YouTube of censorship.
One of those videos showed up days later as a mid-roll ad to me (!), which was really strange.
 

Geo Martin

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Catholic
I don't want to repeat what he said, it's too vile.
As for the rest of his research, he is right about Icke and some of his research on ancient pagan gods is mixed.
On the whole, anyone who speaks such blasphemies is not guided by the Holy Spirit, which means he only has his own mind to work with with some demonic interference.
Hence, the mixed results. I don't think these types are what I should lean on for information, it will only confuse and poison.
I agree we should avoid unpalatable and profane styles as those polute the message. But we also need to use discernment to be able to find pieces of truth in different places, some of them very disagreeable with us.
There are extreme and obvious cases of deceit that should be avoided at all costs however, for instance I wouldn't spend a second of my time listening to the Russell Brands of the world and other pied pipers that in my opinion are out there to mislead. That's when discernment from true faith and God given wisdom come in handy. Unfortunately we live in times when our elders don't know any better and are in fact more deluded than the younger in most a cases.
 

El Draque

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Orthodox
I remember London Real doing interview with David Icke. It was deleted from YouTube day later. What followed were a series of videos by London Real acussing YouTube of censorship.
One of those videos showed up days later as a mid-roll ad to me (!), which was really strange.

Pretty sure that was some shady grift of Brian Rose. Cant remember details, but think he cried censorship, and then grifted donations to his "free speech video platform", which never materialised, but of course neither did the refunds.

Rose is probably worth his own thread tbh.
 

Geo Martin

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Catholic
Pretty sure that was some shady grift of Brian Rose. Cant remember details, but think he cried censorship, and then grifted donations to his "free speech video platform", which never materialised, but of course neither did the refunds.

Rose is probably worth his own thread tbh.
Total fed. He's too shifty even for the BBC though, otherwise he'd be presenting Panorama or something like that.
 
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