The decline of functioning society - What's going on?

Towgunner

Pelican
And now Mexico is getting in bed with China. This invites yet another serious situation for the US. Certainly, the optics alone spell doom, if, the country directly south of the US de-dollarizes etc. There has been talk about fighting the cartels, which would be a perfect excuse to, basically, invade Mexico and effectively punish them for their China-centric policy. That said, we'd have another insurgency/conflict a la Afghanistan on our own soil. Engaging with the cartels would be bloody and intense and prolonged. And judging by our performance in Afghanistan end in failure.
 

ISR92

Robin
More like 5-10 years. The Western world is in a death spiral, and with the massive government debts, de-dollarization (USD), unchecked immigration, and the recent introduction of AI, the normies are blissfully unaware of the fate that is about to befall them.
This prognosis is far too bleak. It was only a couple of generations ago that the majority of people had kids and were "more upstanding" than the current crowd. That will take time to dismantle, but it IS coming.
 

Douglas Quaid

Kingfisher
It always shocks me when I see young women and girls with their mid-riffs exposed in public. Some with bellybutton piercings. Wearing the most scandalous clothing you could imagine. How can anyone not see that this is eventually heading to the normalization of pedophilia if even the most sacred, innocent members of society are not out of reach of sexualization?

Alright, story time. We had a staff party recently. The guy who owns the restaurant I work at (trying not to say boss here) hosted it with the tips we accrued throughout the year. He has a great property. About an acre. It kinda looks like a mansion but smaller in scale. But still gleaming white. Immaculate lawns, and a large pool which we went to later in the afternoon.

After downing some beers, we, as a group, moved by the pool. To cut a long story short, two of the girls disrobed and got into the pool. They were wearing string bikinis revealing their buttocks RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE OWNER'S KIDS. I could not believe the audacity of these two. But yet it was probably not even audacity to them. It never occurred to them that some decency should be had, particularly in the presence of impressionable kids, but anywhere, too.

This country (Australia) is in for a world of hurt within the next 50-100 years.
I worked a job around a lot of Australian women, and they're even worse than American women. Masculine, crazy, dress/act like sluts, you name it.

I think several of the other Anglo countries are collapsing even faster than the US.
 
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Blade Runner

Crow
Orthodox
More like 5-10 years. The Western world is in a death spiral, and with the massive government debts, de-dollarization (USD), unchecked immigration, and the recent introduction of AI, the normies are blissfully unaware of the fate that is about to befall them.
What is about to befall them?
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
The hurt is today. The more sin the more pain. It doesn't matter what the girls think. Or anyone for that matter. Sin is sin. I don't know what the future brings, but we are in a very high state of lies, blasphemy, lust, gluttony, lack of courage, denial of God.

This is what pain looks. I find it intriguing many say, well it's doable now. Well is it? Look how many people are on drugs to cope with the pain they experience in the world. Isn't depression just hurt for your own sins and the sins of the world. Hope is very low in people.

We are like slaves. And we keep saying ah well at least we have to eat. Not like those hunger belly kids in Africa. Maybe that's propaganda...

I find that shocking how many people are saying we are ok. I think we are far from okay. Who obeys the law of God?

Well we have our bellies filled with corn and seed oil and have unlimited porn and drugs to cope with it.

What a life.
The pain of sin is universal. People are way more common in how they experience things than is portrayed in this individualist society, with the only notable difference that of men and women. But on a long enough timescale everyone realizes the meaninglessness of this lifestyle. Most people live through their early 20s in a daze of seeming fun then from 25 it goes down and at 30 a husk remains. Most just aren't able to find a way to bounce back from it, and just succumb to and unwillingly accept the 9-5 slave grind, while sedating themselves with entertainment and food. It's verily a low quality lifestyle when you think about it: it's utterly superficial and they will never move an inch deeper, whereas in the depth of the ocean you find the beautiful vegetation and wildlife. As you justly say - what a life. Incredible. What a sadness. And then imagining we are fashioned in the image and likeness of God, which makes the gap even greater.
 

paternos

Pelican
Catholic
And then imagining we are fashioned in the image and likeness of God, which makes the gap even greater.
Last week a young guy I know in his early 20s got baptized. I was so happy, God touched him and he dared to listen. A heartfelt Christian. Smart. Honest.

That's of a great beauty. And great hope. Less sin. Less pain.

And then when I think about the hospitals where everything is done and every drug is used to extend meaningless life 1 year more. The superficiality of travel, of sex for "pleasure", the gluttonous people on diabetes "medicine". The fancy restaurants serving sugar and fat in the temperatures to appeal to our senses. The never ending tax increases. The lies on TV.

In all that filth, young men are choosing to follow Christ, and choose God over sin, Hallelujah!
 

Ironclad

Sparrow
Orthodox Inquirer
This prognosis is far too bleak. It was only a couple of generations ago that the majority of people had kids and were "more upstanding" than the current crowd. That will take time to dismantle, but it IS coming.
Your statement actually supports my prognosis. Look how far the West has fallen in such a short period of time. Things are only going to accelerate from here on out.
 

holgerdanske

Woodpecker
Catholic
More like 5-10 years. The Western world is in a death spiral, and with the massive government debts, de-dollarization (USD), unchecked immigration, and the recent introduction of AI, the normies are blissfully unaware of the fate that is about to befall them.
I look around me wherever I go and all I see are people who are sleep walking. I agree, they have no idea what's about to happen to them just like in early 2020.
 

Towgunner

Pelican
There will be no utopia. One of the more, if not the single most, compelling appeals of the left is the assurance its giving to the lemmings, namely kids, that a utopia is right around the corner. Between their perceived "advances" in things like "equality" etc plus the amazing advances in technology, its easy, especially in a confined and cloistered environment such as a college campus or even public school, to create a convincing illusion that heaven on Earth is nearly upon us.

Who wouldn't want that? Obviously, this is appealing. These people, again mainly younger people and students, believe that they'll have all of their needs, wants, and desires sufficiently, if not overly fulfilled. They think work is going to be like Twitter was before Elon took it over. Robots will do all the dirty and undesirable things. And they'll be left to express their inner creativity and innovative spirit. Its short workdays, punctuated by snacks, lattes, yoga, naps, fun, and an occasional "meeting" to talk, plan and prepare for the next meaningless "meeting".

This eventuality wasn't going to happen even if weren't in the mess we're in right now. But, it will most certainly not happen given recent developments. For one thing, the demise of the dollar is going to fundamentally change our society and the world from this point forward. Among many other things, this alone will reduce the availability of capital, which is imperative for a lackadaisical lifestyle to exist.

There is no utopia coming. In fact, what's staring all of us in the face right now is a significant disaster and prolonged hardship.
 
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