The decline of functioning society - What's going on?

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
I got some interesting insight last night where I attended a strange dinner party.

The house was very large. Over 4500sqft, near 5000sqft. Many rooms were empty or just storage for boxes, including the front room where you'd want to show it off? Only a couple live there.

He had a lot of toys. I'm not talking about "guy" toys like a jetski/motorcycle/boat/4 wheeler... But marvel action figures, star wars, dinosaurs... toys for children. Literally a hundred of packing boxes full of toys in the basement (so you couldn't even see them). And he was quite proud of them. He's a corporate attorney. Our kids were allowed to walk around this large house and explore, except go down in the basement - where the toys were.

The wife (upper 30s/low 40s) had a lot of art and collectibles that had to do with skulls and death. Very macabre and goth feeling. She/they also had 3 cats.

They had a guest in town who was turning 40 and she was single. She was decently attractive and thin, but had many tattoos (that were all hidden at least). She said at least twice, "I'm an adult and can do what I want". Which ironically is very childish and immature sounding, even for a 20 year to say, much less 40. She has 3 dogs and said that one of her dogs wants a fish as a pet... She wants to nurture and be a mother, but completely on her 40 year old feminist and rather abrasive terms and can't seem to figure out why no guy would want to be a part of that.

Overall, they're still mentally children, who never grew up. They don't have kids so they didn't need to.

They've replaced God and family with materialism, feminism and death. This is what's being sold to them via the media, social media, and society.

They are materially adults.

Yet, Emotionally and Spiritually they are children.
You've very much nailed the tragedy of our times. At some point, we have to awaken from the Matrix and see the world for what it is, and unplug from the lies. What you describe are people who never unplugged, and this is the consequence at 40. Directionless, motionless, confused, stagnant, unaware.
 

Max Roscoe

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
The house was very large. Over 4500sqft, near 5000sqft. Many rooms were empty or just storage for boxes, including the front room where you'd want to show it off? Only a couple live there.

He had a lot of toys.

Yet, Emotionally and Spiritually they are children.
A 4,000+ SF home for 2 people? bizarre.
I was at a social event in a single dad's home recently. The guy looked late 40s. There was a bunch of Star Wars toys and I found out it was not his 10 year old son's stuff--it was the dads. Dad had some obscure cartoon tattoos on him as well, and cartoon artwork up on the walls. This was a nice 2 story house with a pool. Really weird.

As for things just not working. I had lunch today in an old family run restaurant run by an old Greek immigrant couple. Cash only. Decor has not changed in 40 years. Prices have but little else. These two young blacks came in to deliver Coca Cola syrup without the carbonated cannister. The woman said it's no good without the CO2. I can't serve customers flat soda. The young guys said "Yeah I know they just told us to come get your empty cannisters but we don't have any full ones to give you"

She looked at him confused and then said to me "Everything is going to hell"

Of course it makes no point to even deliver soda syrup if you are out of carbonation. A normal person would understand that, and not even make the delivery until they got some more (how do you run out of compressed air???).

She's in a kinda rough part of town...As I left, I told her to be safe, and she knowingly winked at me.
Imagine running your business for 40 years and you are facing this kind of South Africa level dysfunction in basic operations.


I watched this deleted scenes from a Waukesha documentary today (I haven't seen the actual film). The scene that really got to me is where the guy sees a giant HATE CRIMES? CALL 1-800-FBI sign on the side of a bus in Waukesha, so he calls and this condescending FBI woman hangs up on him as he is reporting the Christmas killing as a hate crime (which it unarguably was).



I mean, I know the FBI is not our friend, but I do expect them to grungingly go through the motions when someone blatantly violates a law they are sworn to uphold. It was incredibly demoralizing hearing them just abandon us. I think demoralization is the key to so much of the decline we see. There is just so little to be hopeful for in this world. People were so desperate for this they actually found a New York billionaire in 2018 to be a relatable person.... It's all so tiresome.
 

magaman

Kingfisher
Orthodox Inquirer
A 4,000+ SF home for 2 people? bizarre.
I was at a social event in a single dad's home recently. The guy looked late 40s. There was a bunch of Star Wars toys and I found out it was not his 10 year old son's stuff--it was the dads. Dad had some obscure cartoon tattoos on him as well, and cartoon artwork up on the walls. This was a nice 2 story house with a pool. Really weird.

As for things just not working. I had lunch today in an old family run restaurant run by an old Greek immigrant couple. Cash only. Decor has not changed in 40 years. Prices have but little else. These two young blacks came in to deliver Coca Cola syrup without the carbonated cannister. The woman said it's no good without the CO2. I can't serve customers flat soda. The young guys said "Yeah I know they just told us to come get your empty cannisters but we don't have any full ones to give you"

She looked at him confused and then said to me "Everything is going to hell"

Of course it makes no point to even deliver soda syrup if you are out of carbonation. A normal person would understand that, and not even make the delivery until they got some more (how do you run out of compressed air???).

She's in a kinda rough part of town...As I left, I told her to be safe, and she knowingly winked at me.
Imagine running your business for 40 years and you are facing this kind of South Africa level dysfunction in basic operations.


I watched this deleted scenes from a Waukesha documentary today (I haven't seen the actual film). The scene that really got to me is where the guy sees a giant HATE CRIMES? CALL 1-800-FBI sign on the side of a bus in Waukesha, so he calls and this condescending FBI woman hangs up on him as he is reporting the Christmas killing as a hate crime (which it unarguably was).



I mean, I know the FBI is not our friend, but I do expect them to grungingly go through the motions when someone blatantly violates a law they are sworn to uphold. It was incredibly demoralizing hearing them just abandon us. I think demoralization is the key to so much of the decline we see. There is just so little to be hopeful for in this world. People were so desperate for this they actually found a New York billionaire in 2018 to be a relatable person.... It's all so tiresome.


I know exactly what you are talking about. I feel this way every single day. It's like we are expected to work ten times as hard as our ancestors while at the same time we have maybe 1/10th of the prospects as they did, along with being told that we are spoiled and live in the best times in history.

I wanted to add something else, not sure if anyone has brought this up here or elsewhere but have you noticed that most, if not all activities/interests/hobbies etc. have all been "done before" and that nothing new has really happened with anything in the past 20, 30 even 50 years? Like television 20-25 years ago was great compared to what we have today. Same thing with video games. If you look at what you see today in those departments, most of it is literally the same re-hashed ideas from older games of the 90s-early 00s era. Then you have music where you had that golden era of 1967-1982ish (the 70s being the main focal point) and it just seemed to slowly decline from then. Now everything just seems so "done to death" and there's nothing really new ever happening with any sort of industry or idea. I guess what I'm saying is that everything has stagnated and there is not as much cultural/societal or even personal development like even just a few decades ago. Technology is one of the very few things that have gotten better but even that has been declining lately with the botchy coding/programming that exists in them as others have talked about here.

All the changes, developments at large, it's always marketed as somehow to help and empower you where in reality it does exactly the opposite; It's another way of kicking that proverbial can down the road and causing further despair and enslavement rather than being anything that solves problems or improves anything for the regular people like us here.
 

John777

 
Banned
Protestant
There's an exodus of wypipo from tech. The talent is still there, it just took its business elsewhere. De-wokeified tech, when it really starts to emerge, will absolutely blow apart mainstream tech.

Speaking as a programmer, I can absolutely tell you: the hardware is there for everything to be running crazily better than it ever has, but the way code is written today is absolutely poo and is singlehandedly responsible for so much of the glitches and slowdowns in computing. And I can also tell you: they are not hiring or promoting people like me who know how to and can do better. And even if they were, I wouldn't work for them.

Just curious, why would you not work for a company that was hiring and promoting people who know and can do better, for writing software? That sounds like the emerging de-wokeified tech you mentioned, which sounded like a good thing.
 

Elipe

Ostrich
Protestant
Just curious, why would you not work for a company that was hiring and promoting people who know and can do better, for writing software? That sounds like the emerging de-wokeified tech you mentioned, which sounded like a good thing.
No, I'm talking about the woke companies. Even if Google was asking me, I wouldn't work for them. That's what I meant - I will not work for these prostitutes of Satan even if they begged at my feet. I want them absolutely destroyed, utterly annihilated, and nothing less.

I will know the difference between a woke company faking de-wokeification and a based company.
 

John777

 
Banned
Protestant
Whoever can do a good job for a reasonable price, now instead of later, is the person I want to work with, regardless of ethnic background. If rebuilding the white race requires more focus on choosing people based on skin color instead of who is best for the job, then we fall to the same level as our enemies and become the racists they say we are. Just because other ethnic groups have racist in-group preference doesn't mean it is correct, or should be manufactured in a race where it does not exist (whites). It's a byproduct of their intact culture and family structure which whites have lost.

Nation is to the family what family is to the individual. Would you sell out your own kids and rob them of their inheritance? The Bible has this to say about someone who doesn't take care of his own family:

But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. - 1 Timothy 5:8

As a father and husband, you have a responsibility to your household. And as a white person, you have a responsibility to your tribe because to honor your tribe is to honor your family. Nobody will take care of you like your family, and tribe is also connected by blood. It may be true that many of your tribesmen are fools, but they are your fools. Everybody else on Earth understands this. That is why they take care of each other, even to an overall detrimental state of well-being. It's not that they fail because of racism-as-boogeyman, it's that they're failing together because that's how strong their bond is; they triumph together and they fall together.

Meanwhile, look at white people. At least half of them are more than willing to stab their own in the back for a quick buck or recognition from people who, deep down, harbor a desire for their extinction but hide the sneer behind a smiling mask to their faces. And the only people that seem to actually, genuinely care for the plight of those poor, unwittingly self-destructive fools are their co-racialists. Because they share blood, and so there exists a bond that is not forged by dollar signs or the measure of sweat drops.

Becoming biased toward your in-group is not the abnormal state of man, it is the normal state of man, and the deracinated man is abnormal. It is abnormal because it weakens your tribe and subjects them to slavery and occupation, because you refuse to stand together. Brothers stand together no matter how broke or crippled they are. But the deracinated man will reject his broke or crippled brother because he is of no utility.

Your attitude is fundamentally utilitarian. Utilitarianism is antithetical to our Lord Jesus's teachings.

I think I was raised to have a lower-than-natural level of bias toward my racial group, maybe because of some prevailing moral ideas in our culture at the time. So, since I have grown up to be "de-racinated," should I now work to increase my bias toward whites and against non-whites?

I can see why someone who has a positive racial bias toward his own group, such as whites, is doing something normal and good. However I think it is just as good for someone who grew up de-racinated to remain that way. It seems like one of those differences in practical application of our faith that we should accept in one another, and avoid controversy over. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I am not seeing how my attitude fundamentally goes against Jesus' teachings.

Also, with the specific Bible quotes to prove points, that just doesn't hold weight. I could just as easily quote verses showing Jesus refusing to speak to His own mother and brothers when they were waiting outside, trying to get in. Or, multiple verses about how one cannot follow Jesus without first hating his own family and even his own life. But the Bible is not a legal document, and the lessons to be learned are deeper than legalistic one-liners.
 

Elipe

Ostrich
Protestant
I think I was raised to have a lower-than-natural level of bias toward my racial group, maybe because of some prevailing moral ideas in our culture at the time. So, since I have grown up to be "de-racinated," should I now work to increase my bias toward whites and against non-whites?
Just be aware that non-whites, in general, will not feel the same way about you that you do about them. Nobody's saying to hate non-whites, just that you should be aware that they're much more biased against you than whites will be. They do not feel any fraternity toward you, they do not have warm fuzzy beliefs about humanity being one race. You are a gringo, a cracka, a baizuo, a gaijin to them. And an increasing number of them see you as a colonist to be overthrown and trampled on.

It's simply survival. You stick with the people who will have your back.
 

infowarrior1

Peacock
Protestant
I think I was raised to have a lower-than-natural level of bias toward my racial group, maybe because of some prevailing moral ideas in our culture at the time. So, since I have grown up to be "de-racinated," should I now work to increase my bias toward whites and against non-whites?

You cannot assume non-whites especially non-Christians won't be racist towards you. Its only with Christianity that they may even regard you as an Image of God worthy of dignity.

When I see black people commenting on certain topics. I couldn't believe the level of murderous hatred that they have towards white people. This is a fallen world with fallen people. And racial hatred is part of the package.
 

Cynllo

Kingfisher
Other Christian
most, if not all activities/interests/hobbies etc. have all been "done before" and that nothing new has really happened with anything in the past 20, 30 even 50 years?

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However I think it is just as good for someone who grew up de-racinated to remain that way. It seems like one of those differences in practical application of our faith that we should accept in one another, and avoid controversy over.

There is not a good history of putting people together from different groups, particularly when empires fall. Given the history, it is difficult to see what is Christian about doing this. Which leads into the point - what has been the nature of our mixing? I don't think you can the motives of the Democrats is close to God.
 

Australia Sucks

Kingfisher
Other Christian
I have no wife and no children. Women have never been interested in me my whole life. The only way I can get a wife and children will be if God wills it for me. Overall I generally agree with your comment, but I also accept the possibility that things will not get better for me. I see that as way to not get too attached, concerned, or involved in this worldly life and instead focus on the afterlife.
Yes it is difficult not get a wife but that is just you avoiding taking action. If you want a wife focus on:
1) Earn enough money and invest it wisely to become financially independent (you should be able to this by the time you are in the 35 - 45 age range).
2) Move to a more traditional country and learn the local language, customs and culture
3) Find a nice, attractive, young, traditional virgin woman (aged 18 - 21), marry her and live happily ever after. If you are a good dude, keep in decent shape, and have the ability to provide well (financially) for a family it will not be too hard to find a woman like this to marry in the right countries.

I agree that life is unfair and you got the short end of the straw but you can choose to whine about or you can choose to roll up your sleeves and find a solution.
 

Samseau

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
Also, with the specific Bible quotes to prove points, that just doesn't hold weight. I could just as easily quote verses showing Jesus refusing to speak to His own mother and brothers when they were waiting outside, trying to get in. Or, multiple verses about how one cannot follow Jesus without first hating his own family and even his own life. But the Bible is not a legal document, and the lessons to be learned are deeper than legalistic one-liners.

Those quotes only pertain to loving God above everything else. It has nothing to do with racial preferences, which are mentioned many times (I quoted them all for you throughout this thread).

All Early Church fathers understood these things the same way as well, which you can read on the Catena Bible.

 

infowarrior1

Peacock
Protestant
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There is not a good history of putting people together from different groups, particularly when empires fall. Given the history, it is difficult to see what is Christian about doing this. Which leads into the point - what has been the nature of our mixing? I don't think you can the motives of the Democrats is close to God.

Singapore under Lee Kuan Yew is far more closer to God in Governance than the hostile actions of those responsible for the immigration policies in the West.

Far more functional too.
 

John777

 
Banned
Protestant
Just be aware that non-whites, in general, will not feel the same way about you that you do about them. Nobody's saying to hate non-whites, just that you should be aware that they're much more biased against you than whites will be. They do not feel any fraternity toward you, they do not have warm fuzzy beliefs about humanity being one race. You are a gringo, a cracka, a baizuo, a gaijin to them. And an increasing number of them see you as a colonist to be overthrown and trampled on.

It's simply survival. You stick with the people who will have your back.

I understand. I completely agree with your final statement about survival. I don't want to argue more in this thread, and I understand other races do not care about me. I don't think anyone in this world really cares about me, they care first and foremost about their own survival. That is why I believe in trusting God rather than people.
 

John777

 
Banned
Protestant
You cannot assume non-whites especially non-Christians won't be racist towards you. Its only with Christianity that they may even regard you as an Image of God worthy of dignity.

When I see black people commenting on certain topics. I couldn't believe the level of murderous hatred that they have towards white people. This is a fallen world with fallen people. And racial hatred is part of the package.

You are absolutely right.

I expect racism and unfair treatment everywhere I turn. In fact, I expect most things to go wrong, and try to plan accordingly with multiple fall-back strategies. I specifically do not expect any person to do me any favor, or even avoid openly ripping me off if it benefits him. Unfortunately I have become a very defensive and hyper-aware person, highly paranoid and protective of my own.

I honestly have almost no respect for black people, which saddens me, since they are made in the image of God. However the black people in this country are so fallen and broken, because they are descended from broken and enslaved ancestors, who were sold by their black slave-masters in exchange for Jew-bought liquor, that it is impossible to have any respect for them if the word "respect" is to have any meaning at all.

Having spent some time working in different black ghetto environments when I used to be a mobile auto-repair technician, I can begin to understand how different, uniquely talented and motivated, and above all inspired by God, a young black man would need to be to escape the forces of failure and destruction that lie over these communities like a thick, tangible blanket of evil. When you are in these neighborhoods, you can feel the evil presence of Satan in the air, since no one is really in charge, no one cares about these areas or the people in them, and evil has been allowed to prevail to a high degree.

How can a young black man persevere in the broken, and now gay and pedophile school environment, then persevere through 99% of his peers being in gangs, not going to school, doing drugs, and shooting each other, to become any kind of respectable tradesperson or professional person capable of supporting himself by honest labor? Only by the power of God and by firmly fixing his mind to the Word of God and meditating on it day and night. So let us pray for these men and women, especially the youth, that they may find the light of Christ.
 

John777

 
Banned
Protestant
Those quotes only pertain to loving God above everything else. It has nothing to do with racial preferences, which are mentioned many times (I quoted them all for you throughout this thread).

All Early Church fathers understood these things the same way as well, which you can read on the Catena Bible.

This is good to know, and makes sense.

I still think there is a healthy balance which favors our own without rewarding incompetence, which I assume you agree with. We do not want to value white skin color or simply professing Christianity above skill, ability, hard work, and professionalism.

If whites are a gifted and best race, then we should be held to the highest standard. If we have been given much, than even more should be expected. So, there should be no problem. The superior people who have been chosen by God from all races should perform best, and accordingly receive the best and most responsible positions in society. This is the final outcome I envision, which God, and no globalist plan, will bring about. I agree showing a preference for our own race is a natural and human thing to do, and will be the case also in the final Kingdom. As others mentioned already in this thread, when all tribes, nations, and tongues stand before the throne, they will maintain their unique identities as God created them.
 

Samseau

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This is good to know, and makes sense.

I still think there is a healthy balance which favors our own without rewarding incompetence, which I assume you agree with. We do not want to value white skin color or simply professing Christianity above skill, ability, hard work, and professionalism.

If whites are a gifted and best race, then we should be held to the highest standard. If we have been given much, than even more should be expected. So, there should be no problem. The superior people who have been chosen by God from all races should perform best, and accordingly receive the best and most responsible positions in society. This is the final outcome I envision, which God, and no globalist plan, will bring about. I agree showing a preference for our own race is a natural and human thing to do, and will be the case also in the final Kingdom. As others mentioned already in this thread, when all tribes, nations, and tongues stand before the throne, they will maintain their unique identities as God created them.

You got it brother! Now you see the nuance.
 

infowarrior1

Peacock
Protestant
You got it brother! Now you see the nuance.

Those without such a benefit of multidimensional thinking, morality and the true nature of Divine Righteousness.

Often fit Jesus into a flat 2d surface which is a misrepresentation of what God is actually like. So if God is a cube they would disagree on whether he is a square or not. Yet not quite grasping the full picture.

No it's all about having every Virtue in proper proportion and harmony with each other.

But those who aren't saved. Fall into equal and opposite errors.

For example those who either regard an ethnic group as irredeemable or exempt from all responsibility. Fall into ethnonarcissim or ethnomasochism. Or even both. Even inventing sins that aren't sins like "miscegenation" in particular cases based on careful selection of character,beauty, of the same faith that is also based on genuine love or "white/male/rich privilege" even endorsing the swamping of Nations as is happening now. And pushing for the complete blending of all Nations into a homogeneous soup.

Either denying divine mercy and Grace or the inherent Image of God that makes people as equally accountable as inherently dignified by birthright.
 
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Max Roscoe

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Orthodox Inquirer
I was thinking about this thread and the experiences I've had traveling abroad in homogeneous societies, where there is this unspoken feeling that everyone is looking out for each other, because they are all family in a genetic sense. I distinctly noticed it in Asia. And how I've never felt that in America.

I was thinking about Johnny Cash and how he and many other artists including Linda Ronstadt, would often perform for prisoners (the most famous example being his first live album which he recorded playing for the men incarcerated at Folsom Prison in California). Can anyone imagine such a thing today?

Think about the basic level of compassion people had back then that Cash and many other artists wanted to perform for prisoners in their society as a mere act of kindness towards them. A form of forgiveness, in a way. And I don't know that it changed any prisoners' lives, but it surely is better than just locking them away for years and hoping they will somehow become reformed by their release date.

Can you imagine entertaining prisoners today? Would it even be allowed?

How would you even react if you heard an artist was going to play at a prison today?
Would you be happy, or just think "Oh what a stupid libtard, coddling those prisoners. "

Our prison population is 4 times larger than when Cash played there. What happened? Did we become 4x more criminal?

Just one more example of how atomized and dysfunctional our society has become.
 
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