Debatable. But to me, this is their pivotal album where everything changed, not the black album like everybody seems to think.
I'd beg to differ with some guitar players like King Crimson's Robert Fripp - but he's the exception and not the rule, for sure.Even the "greats" of rock are merely comparable to any conservatory style classical artist. I say this as a guitarist who learned to play some of the best and more technical stuff.
There are some great musicians who play rock, but typically this fact is just incidental to their careers if it is even true.I'd beg to differ with some guitar players like King Crimson's Robert Fripp - but he's the exception and not the rule, for sure.
On this subject, one rock star who had wanted to be a composer was Frank Zappa (who I've said a little too often on here that I'm a huge fan of - he adored Stravinsky and Varese). A huge sobering experience of mine in 2015? Finally listening to his 1990s album The Yellow Shark, which was modern composition along the lines of what he'd always wanted to do. I saved it so I could get to it last, since it was such a big deal for him.
It's damn near unlistenable. What a letdown. As much as I still admire him as a musician, his subversive style of rock was the best music he could make.
Fripp is definitely a humorless composer who just happened to find his way into progressive rock and stay there. (Someone like him, I'd be very surprised if he even touched the sex and drugs - it would cut into his practice time.) I'm wondering how it even happened - but stranger things have happened.There are some great musicians who play rock, but typically this fact is just incidental to their careers if it is even true.
I've played guitar and I've done synths and hands down, synths require 10x the talent and skill. There is a whole new level of craft involved in sound design that just isn't present in the world of guitars. Even the most creative and talented guitarists.Multiple cases of rappers flagrantly stealing lyrics from rock videos. I don't care what people say, playing an instrument and singing will always be more than using a machine to make music. Modern trap music is not only unoriginal and repetitive., its degenerate and perfidious.
This is coming from a edm fan, I frankly think that the late 90s-early 2000s period of electronic music popularity with people like tiesto and avicii ended the dominance of actual physical music being popular.
This isn't muuuusic! When I was a kid you dressed like a woman and you sung about the devil...now that- that was music!
Heard recently a remastered version with the bass on the same level as the other instruments. Very good, I like it more than original recording with bass barely unrecognizable.
Good comments, and funnily enough i just read Wierd Scenes in Laurel Canyon last week.I was a professional musician for most of my life and even though I was formally schooled in jazz and classical, my roots were in rock. However, after looking into the history a bit more, I have since come to the conclusion that much of the music, especially in the late '60's, was actually being used to socially engineer society away from traditional values and mores into the decadent leftist hellhole we find ourselves in today. It promoted drug use, rebellion, promiscuous sex and degraded Christianity, among other things.
I would definitely recommend a book called "Weird Scenes Inside The Canyon" by Dave McGowan. It goes into great detail about how the hippie counterculture was largely an orchestrated phenomena, centered around a military base in Laurel Canyon and also how many of those artists, such as Steven Stills, David Crosbie, Jim Morrison and Frank Zappa, had ties to the military. (For example, Morrison's father was an admiral in the US navy who had overseen the Gulf of Tonkin incident. There is a picture of Morrison on the bridge of his father's ship with a crewcut looking like the all-American boy and then a little over a year later is suddenly transformed into a longhaired hippie figure running around LA fronting a band even though he had no musical training and had never shown any interest in pop music up until then.)
Also, many of the so-called rock "artists" were simply actors, who didn't play on or compose most of their hits. For example, check out a guy named Mike Williams - he has produced a great four hour long expose on the Beatles and pretty much proves that there is no way they could have written and recorded some of their seminal works, given their busy schedules. In 1966, the TV show "The Monkees" came out - it was a group of actors playing musicians who were obviously based on the Beatles, and even toured, even though everyone knew they were actors. Perhaps this was a way of hiding the truth in plain sight?
Also, it has become very clear to me that many of these performers had Satanic elements in their messaging, both overtly and more subtly through backwards messaging in their songs. (Again, the Beatles spring to mind. Their infamous "dead baby cover" on the US version of "Yesterday... And Today" was pretty dark especially given what we now know about pedophilia and ritualistic child abuse among the elites and there was all kinds of backwards messages in their later work. Led Zeppelin was another such band, with Jimmy Page being an overt occultist and The Rolling Stones were were also pretty dark.). I know the backwards messaging thing sounds weird but if you study the occult and specifically the writings of Aleister Crowley, you will discover that this is a thing.
These days, I almost exclusively listen to Western and Indian classical music, which uplifts and inspires the soul (which is the purpose of such a noble art form as music) and pretty much ignore anything produced since the 1920's because I'm fed up being manipulated by depraved pop culture.
There is a picture of Morrison on the bridge of his father's ship with a crewcut
Much good music was released after 1920 though.These days, I almost exclusively listen to Western and Indian classical music, which uplifts and inspires the soul (which is the purpose of such a noble art form as music) and pretty much ignore anything produced since the 1920's because I'm fed up being manipulated by depraved pop culture.