The Decline of Society is mainly due to Technology

debeguiled

Peacock
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pathoma said:
I would suggest people check out Neil Postmans work. Great scholar. Amusing Ourselves to Death, Technopoly, and Building a Bridge to the 18th Century are all great.

Yeah, love Postman. Old school scholar and teacher. What a mensch.
 

roberto

Pelican
Gold Member
rudebwoy said:
All the guys crying about Smartphones, I bet are the same guys that have the latest Smartphones.

...And use them for solid, locigal reasons such as calculating formulas on the fly, recording data, self improvement and making money.

Not Instafacepintwitgawk.

iPhone 4 here and no social media whatsoever.
 

Seadog

Kingfisher
Technology as others have said is only a tool. A tool which allows underlying societal characteristics to manifest themselves more clearly. So to blame it merely on technology is short sighted. Basically like any tool, you can use it to increase output, or minimize input. Use it to accomplish greater things, or use it to be lazy.

The average smart phone has more computing power than the computers that put men on the moon. I forget where I read the quote, but it went along the lines of "I have a device in my pocket that can access the sum total of human knowledge. Instead I use it to get into arguments with strangers and look at pictures of cats". You don't have to do that. You could use it to better yourself. The fact that some people don't speaks to other underlying issues.

And to play devils advocate for a moment, is RFV that different? Men communicating more efficiently, ultimately with the goal of bettering themselves within their realm? (financial, physical, women etc). Previously it may have been men's clubs, the barber shop, the range etc. Within the female sphere, social stuff like gossip, relationships etc. has always been the currency of their realm. What used to happen at the hair salon now occurs more efficiently on facebook.

In the same way men here try to gain an edge financially or with women, women do the same with facebook so they can be the first to say "OMG did you hear...!".
 

Speculation

Kingfisher
'The Shallows' By Nicholas Carr has a lot to say about how technology affects human behaviour.

There were scientific theories with some supporting evidence that certain parts of the human brain changed with the introduction of different technologies.

For instance, the part of the brain concerned with audial processing shrunk in exposed cultures after the introduction of the Gutenberg Press. At the same time, the brain's visual processing area increased in size as people moved from oral tradition to reading as a form of learning.

In modern times he points to the rise of the internet and the resulting decrease in memory and even reading comprehension as people get used to using Google for accessing facts. They also have trouble reading books because their minds adjust to quickly parsing internet pages and jumping from hyperlink to hyperlink. Deep comprehension decreases as minds are calibrated towards ingesting huge amounts of (less pertinent) information quite quickly through internet browsing.

From this book and similar books I've come to the conclusion that modern technology (particularly the internet/smartphones) is having a detrimental affect on relationships, communication skills, memory and mental health. I also think it leads to isolation and a destruction of cultural capital, which other political and ideological forces then exploit to their own ends.

I'm not a luddite by any means, but real life social interactions and limiting the misuse of technology is important to keep yourself mentally healthy.
 
rudebwoy said:
The decline is simple, men stopped acting like men.

This. Political correctness, militant feminism, and weak disorganized men are the primary culprits to any kind of decline. If anything, I would argue that technology is helping reverse the decline. The rapid pace that information can be shared today allows for shifts in cultures to occur at a much quicker pace than in any other time in history. This forum is a proof of that. Think about how much you have learned from this forum and how long it would have taken without its existence. Many of us might not like to admit it, but A LOT of us would still be lost in blue pill hell if it wasn't for modern technology.
 

SwordfishTrombonist

Woodpecker
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The Black Knight said:
rudebwoy said:
The decline is simple, men stopped acting like men.

This. Political correctness, militant feminism, and weak disorganized men are the primary culprits to any kind of decline. If anything, I would argue that technology is helping reverse the decline. The rapid pace that information can be shared today allows for shifts in cultures to occur at a much quicker pace than in any other time in history. This forum is a proof of that. Think about how much you have learned from this forum and how long it would have taken without its existence. Many of us might not like to admit it, but A LOT of us would still be lost in blue pill hell if it wasn't for modern technology.

Damn good point

If it weren't for the internet I would still be fucked and have no idea why I wasn't getting what I wanted out of life. This forum and the internet in general helped me realize where I was going wrong in my own actions and what I needed to change to get the results I want. Pre-internet that kind of life-changing information was much harder to come by
 

rudebwoy

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The Black Knight said:
rudebwoy said:
The decline is simple, men stopped acting like men.

This. Political correctness, militant feminism, and weak disorganized men are the primary culprits to any kind of decline. If anything, I would argue that technology is helping reverse the decline. The rapid pace that information can be shared today allows for shifts in cultures to occur at a much quicker pace than in any other time in history. This forum is a proof of that. Think about how much you have learned from this forum and how long it would have taken without its existence. Many of us might not like to admit it, but A LOT of us would still be lost in blue pill hell if it wasn't for modern technology.

Majority of men are blue pill, I can preach to my friends until i am blue in the face and nothing will change. I have stories for days about beta friends who almost broke down due to women. Some of these guys sell and work in technology, how is that for irony.

Guys I know with the most game, who are red pill. They do not know much about technology, but they all have the DGAF attitude when it comes to women.

Technology has made man soft, men would rather play video games all day than go and get some ass. Sure the information is out there, but how many men access it.
 
rudebwoy said:
The Black Knight said:
rudebwoy said:
The decline is simple, men stopped acting like men.

This. Political correctness, militant feminism, and weak disorganized men are the primary culprits to any kind of decline. If anything, I would argue that technology is helping reverse the decline. The rapid pace that information can be shared today allows for shifts in cultures to occur at a much quicker pace than in any other time in history. This forum is a proof of that. Think about how much you have learned from this forum and how long it would have taken without its existence. Many of us might not like to admit it, but A LOT of us would still be lost in blue pill hell if it wasn't for modern technology.

Majority of men are blue pill, I can preach to my friends until i am blue in the face and nothing will change. I have stories for days about beta friends who almost broke down due to women. Some of these guys sell and work in technology, how is that for irony.

Guys I know with the most game, who are red pill. They do not know much about technology, but they all have the DGAF attitude when it comes to women.

Technology has made man soft, men would rather play video games all day than go and get some ass. Sure the information is out there, but how many men access it.

All modern men in the western world have also been raised in a feminist era that pushes blue pill values down peoples throats constantly. It isn't realistic to expect someone to just 180 on their values right away without a significant event occurring.

Modern technology like the internet has allowed people who go through divorce rape/bad break up/false accusations/etc (people very vulnerable to changing their beliefs) to obtain fantastic life altering wisdom at a critical point in their respective lives. This is a relatively recent thing (how long has the manosphere existed? How long has the internet existed?) so it is going to take time to see change occur at a bigger level.

And with how shitty some US women are and the environment currently is, I really can't blame some men for just saying fuck it and playing some video games. Not everyone can be be converted from blue to red pill beliefs and I rather have those people occupied with mindless shit than getting all pissed off and blowing up a building or doing some crazy shit cause they can't get laid.
 

nek

Pelican
I would argue that societal decline is mainly due to the removal of accountability, and technology is a means to facilitate that.
 

pathoma

Pigeon
An easy exercise is to try to think of the analogue equivalent of what technology does.

So for example, posting a photo album on facebook is comparable to printing out individual photo albums to all those facebook friends.

In this way technology acts as an accelerator of change.

Maybe some older heads on the board can share. Do you feel like we've seen more change over the last 10 years than the previous 10 before it?
 

Bazzwaldo

Woodpecker
Technology has no friends or enemies, its just a momentum ergonomic to its users
Social decline has been witnessed by those who can see and some could argue thats its orchistrated by those who can benefit from the disharmony it manifests
 

RexImperator

Crow
Gold Member
A professor of mine mentioned how the development of power steering was a big factor in getting women off of the farm and out of the house. Prior to that cars were hard to steer for women. Going back even further, you had manual crank cars that could break your arm when starting. A lot of upper body strength required.
 
RexImperator said:
A professor of mine mentioned how the development of power steering was a big factor in getting women off of the farm and out of the house. Prior to that cars were hard to steer for women. Going back even further, you had manual crank cars that could break your arm when starting. A lot of upper body strength required.

Nowadays, many cars, even from the early 2000s models Toyotas have a tremendous amount of safety features like Anti-Lock braking system, front & side airbags, tailgate warnings, parking assistance, etc. that it makes it easier for women to drive.

If one were to drive a 1960s car today and end up in an accident, they would lack the safety features like airbags, crumple zones and interior frames designed to protect the occupants as compared to newer model cars.

Literally, a chick can dose off when driving 65mph on the freeway, and some cars will automatically enter into a mode where it will protect the driver from entering an accident by auto-piloting itself to the curb. Some newer model cars even have accelerating protecting in case one steps on the gas pedal too hard.

On the contrary, those newer model cars are only accessible to chicks in their 20s who get higher pay than men in their early 20s. On the contrary, I heard that newer model cars have a computer box which can be "hacked" into by 3-letter .gov agencies.

I'm not that knowledgable about computer diagnostics to find a solution to prevent .gov targeting of a newer model car's computer box.
 
It's not technology to blame, but it's a stage where the old system, which is mainly feministe, is fighting against the developments of technology. Huge difference.

Take for example the modern school teacher. The modern Western education system is completely inundated with mainly liberalized women, at the same time when Mc Donalds cashiers are being replaced with ATM-style Kiosks in other countries.

Replacing teachers who want to shove dildos up their asses using "Sexual Education" as an excuse with online education will lower education costs dramatically, but because of teacher unions, many teachers who don't deserve a 100k a year pay in countries such as Canada are preventing the automation of the teaching profession.

The same goes for college, which can completely be online rather than have campus harpies preaching "Wape Culture" and harassing men on campus. Textbooks will be way cheaper if a Commons Licence was provided rather than forcing students to pay on average 150$ per textbook to read up on the Vagina Monologues for the complusory General Education elective.

This brings up another point. While the female-dominated schools and colleges are spreading their agenda to demonize men, more men will opt out from that system only to find that technology is on the verge of automating minimum wage customer service jobs, leading to employment decline in men.

The Catch-22 is that if a man wants to work in the female-dominated system, he will be viewed as a suspect to molesting children, while the female teachers continue to permit 12-year-old boys to fuck them in the ass.

My argument is that technology will liberate men once the dinosaur, taxpayer-extorted, feminist-bureaucratic system is replaced with technology.

Sure that for now, the paper-pushing female professionals are taking selfies of their nakedness to display for little boys on Instagram and Snapchat, but all of that will come to an end when the economy resets due to technological unemployment which will reduce the tax revenues to pay for female-dominated government employment.

The female teacher earning 100k a year to show her tits to little kids from taxpayer money will have to show her naked ass on the street to earn money to eat when tax revenues are significantly decline.
 

Sooth

Pelican
Gold Member
RexImperator said:
A professor of mine mentioned how the development of power steering was a big factor in getting women off of the farm and out of the house. Prior to that cars were hard to steer for women. Going back even further, you had manual crank cars that could break your arm when starting. A lot of upper body strength required.

Also, this is the reason that Electric cars were around and popular over 100 years ago.

Women didn't have to hand crank start them, they didn't need a man to fill them with fuel/oil and keep the motor running properly just to get you to the shops and back.

The reason they lost the race was the range was no where near as good a gasoline and we figured out how to start the gasoline engine with a button (I wonder if that guy got a thank you BJ - doubt it).

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Kid Twist

Hummingbird
Great thread, reminded me immediately of Kacyznski's thoughts. I think that as root cause, changing the Constitution and "liberating" society that led to all the damage, which is only exacerbated by technology (I think Kacynzski's point, it accelerates social change way beyond what tradition can even have a chance to control, if it even could), is due to the same reason why people have stupid, soft (feminine) policies towards people like murderous migrants: they have lost the value of how hard life can be and the value of struggle. Put another way, materialism and affluency, no matter what, will cause the general masses to look the other way (women vote, "why not?", people who believe different than us, "let's invent some egalitarian response to that too, they're the same as us").

What's the proof of this? Where societies have remained traditional, they are nowhere NEAR the affluency of what is now called the West. FSU, South/Central America, etc. They as a whole, are "3rd world" or, poor. Interesting that this gets you the most feminine, attractive women. But we all know why that is, already.

What my friend always said rings true, "When you have to find out how to eat the next day, how to survive, you don't have time to consider if you are XYZ gender or who is 'against you'."

To sum up: People have too much time on their hands. And they aren't productive. What did they always say about idle hands?
 

Edmund Ironside

Woodpecker
Pride male said:
The condom and the pill were major game changers.

Yeah, and the reduced need for physical ability in work over time that has reduced the natural advantage of men as earners. You didn't see a lot of traction for more women in workplaces when the workplaces were hard, dirty, dangerous physical labor. You didn't see a lot of traction for women in the military when war was a lot more low tech.

However, I would say "enabled" rather than "caused".

There are a lot of other factors, especially things like men simply being less organized. Also, though making fun of sociology degrees, etc, is pretty common and it seems logical that hard sciences are more useful and productive, since the most able men tend to leave social sciences to women and less masculine men, those social sciences are dominated by the wrong people, and that does matter over time. All of those women taking feminist studies that we laughed at are now a trained army of SJWs and the opposition to them tends to be part time and disorganized.
 
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