The depopulation agenda

Viktor Zeegelaar

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
A topic that is frequently featured in red pill and truth seeking communities is that of the depopulation agenda. It is verifiable through the books written by the elite over the last 100 years at least that depopulation is one of their primary concerns, if not their primary concern. The discussion appears mainly to be based on the desired numbers of population to keep around once the AI takes over most jobs. Humans are presented as a threat to the world and everything has to be done to get the numbers down. A famous example is the Georgia guidestones that talks about 500 million people as the desired number. That is about 7.5 billion less than we have now.


Other examples are Prince Philip saying he would like to return as a deadly virus to curb overpopulation and David Attenborough being a public mouthpiece to keep warning the public about the disastrous effects of overpopulation. The bottom line is this: we can only save the world if we drastically curb the population.


We also see this theme appearing in many movies over the last 2 decades, among it Thanos in the Avengers as being framed as a somewhat good guy who saves the universe by randomly killing 50% of the population. Other examples are angels and demons and Utopia.


Gill Bates obviously is a staunch advocate of depopulation as well, which is peculiar (or of course not peculiar) as he rolls out vaccines for the entire global population, every man, woman and child on the earth, because he ''cares about our health''. He even publicly stated in his Ted Talk that rollout of vaccines would curb the global population with 15%, but I highly doubt whether he is honest about that percentage. Based on the works of the elite the percentage should be more in the range of 90-95%.


The list is endless. Personally I expect that in the coming 10 to 30 years we will see the disappearance of billions of people from the face of the earth. This will happen by the elite in a carefully constructed way. I think the vaccines of the future will play a key role in this. This is starting with the cojona vaccine that is more likely to be a warmup to make the public get accustomed to yearly vaccines that will recur in the future permanently. Based on what the elites say and their trackrecord of doing everything they publicly say they're going to do it's undeniable that such a scenario is coming our way.

This begs the following questions:

- what means do the elite use to force depopulation on us? Culturally, economically, socially, food, medically.
- what can we expect in the coming years?
- what's the role of the cojona vaccination in all of this?
- do they have a point or is it just outright Satanic control and a desire to play God on earth?
 
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AceOfBased

Chicken
A critical point is that the "depopulation agenda" is, in and of itself, an enemy of European culture and White civilization generally. It was population pressure (caused by high rates of population growth, over-division of farmland, and crowding in Industrial Revolution-era cities) that drove British settlers to found the colonies that would later become America and Canada.

If the birthrates of Europeans had been at current levels even in relatively recent history, there would be no America, no Canada, no Australia, etc.

Population pressure is good. Contraception is fake and gay. If you're not willing to bear 8 children as a woman, you're weak. If you can't support a wife and 8 children as a man, you are lazy.
 

Thomas More

Hummingbird
The population is too damned high!

When I was a little boy, and first learned the world population, it was 3 billion. That seems like a normal level to me, and 8 billion is way too much. I agree it is possible for all but the elite to live in 300 sq ft "condos" in ultra dense cities, eating factory farmed food, and visiting formerly wild animals in zoos, where they are born through genetic engineering in artificial wombs, and if we do this, the planet can sustain a far higher population. However, I can't see this as a good thing.

People living in small, uncrowded towns and cities. Humane farms with ample range space for livestock, taking up a small fraction of the land outside towns and cities. Vast wilderness areas with room for thriving and diverse populations of wild animals, as existed up until 70-150 years ago. This seems good to me.

Will a super high population result in a great percentage of people as fully sanctified Christians, or would the sanctified percentage likely be higher in a low population world? Even under worldly, secular considerations, would the highest percentage of individuals have a high quality of life in a lower population world, or living in hive pod cities and eating insect protein?

Keep in mind how very recent it was that the world had a modest population. There's no reason to latch on to super high population, and say everybody is weesh and gay if they don't have eight children. Cui bono?
 

AceOfBased

Chicken
The population is too damned high!

When I was a little boy, and first learned the world population, it was 3 billion. That seems like a normal level to me, and 8 billion is way too much. I agree it is possible for all but the elite to live in 300 sq ft "condos" in ultra dense cities, eating factory farmed food, and visiting formerly wild animals in zoos, where they are born through genetic engineering in artificial wombs, and if we do this, the planet can sustain a far higher population. However, I can't see this as a good thing.

People living in small, uncrowded towns and cities. Humane farms with ample range space for livestock, taking up a small fraction of the land outside towns and cities. Vast wilderness areas with room for thriving and diverse populations of wild animals, as existed up until 70-150 years ago. This seems good to me.

Will a super high population result in a great percentage of people as fully sanctified Christians, or would the sanctified percentage likely be higher in a low population world? Even under worldly, secular considerations, would the highest percentage of individuals have a high quality of life in a lower population world, or living in hive pod cities and eating insect protein?

Keep in mind how very recent it was that the world had a modest population. There's no reason to latch on to super high population, and say everybody is weesh and gay if they don't have eight children. Cui bono?
The future of the White Man is to conquer the stars.
 

Matsufubu

Pelican
I'm curious as to how they would control who dies. Kill off too many farmers and they too would starve. Perhaps they intend to all live in New Zealand, import farmers and kill off farmers everywhere else?
 

PaulC

Robin
I'm curious as to how they would control who dies. Kill off too many farmers and they too would starve. Perhaps they intend to all live in New Zealand, import farmers and kill off farmers everywhere else?
Mass corporate farms only need a few actual farmers to manage things. The grunt work can be done by third-world slaves. (Perhaps why Bill Gates owns most of the farmland in the United States.)
 

Thomas More

Hummingbird
While I early wrote in favor of a smaller population, I think the elite's means for reducing the population are disagreeable. The number one factor known to reduce the population is to promote careers for women. As women get education and jobs, they have fewer babies.

However, the other method is even worse. They promote degeneracy, such as gayness, and wicked, hedonistic lifestyles. People in these lifestyles have fewer children.

Finally, they promote city living, which has always been known to have a higher cost of living. People choose to live in small, expensive apartments near the city center. They put off marriage so they can date and go to bars and restaurants, galleries and the theatre. Even if they get in a relationship or marry, it's too expensive to have children, and they want to enjoy the city life with their new love, before they settle down to start a family. The result is only 1-2 children, and a sub-replacement level of fertility.

This is why the PTB push feminism and degeneracy. They are pushing it in the high fertility 3rd world countries too. Part of the reason they want lots of people to immigrate from shithole countries to first world countries is so they will get caught up in the degenerate, low fertility lifestyle, and spread it back to their families and loved ones in their native countries.

I would be in favor of a public policy that encourages smaller numbers of children, but still encourages men and women to marry and raise intact families, along with hard work and saving, all in accordance with a Christian faith in God.

I think this is possible in theory, but in practice the current elites are under occult and demonic influences, and they pursue degeneracy as much as an end in itself as for the purpose of reducing the population.

I think only God can bring these elites down, and restore a virtuous elite for the common people, and I think he will only do this via an apocalypse, followed by the second coming of Christ. I believe the population will go down quite a bit in this process.
 

Dr Mantis Toboggan

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Mass corporate farms only need a few actual farmers to manage things. The grunt work can be done by third-world slaves. (Perhaps why Bill Gates owns most of the farmland in the United States.)

They also think farming is 100% unskilled work and that they can oversee it with robots and where necessary slaves to do the grunt work. See Bloomberg's comments on farmers a year or two ago. They're highly educated lawyers and hedge fund managers and professors and journalists, what does some 5th-generation farmer in Kansas know that they don't or at worst couldn't learn in 20 minutes?

 
They also think farming is 100% unskilled work and that they can oversee it with robots and where necessary slaves to do the grunt work. See Bloomberg's comments on farmers a year or two ago. They're highly educated lawyers and hedge fund managers and professors and journalists, what does some 5th-generation farmer in Kansas know that they don't or at worst couldn't learn in 20 minutes?

Does Mike Bloomberg even have farming experience? There are different levels of farming. Planting a few carrots in a vegetable plot in a backyard is not the same as having a full scale 1,000 acre vegetable farm. Raising one cow or goat for milk is not the same as operating a full-scale dairy with 200 cows and 30 goats. Many people can change a tire or the oil in their car but this doesn't make them top notch auto mechanics. Bloomberg is arrogant and proof that money doesn't always equal common sense.

I do believe that an experienced group of farmers (a group is better because most individuals are only skilled in a few areas, (ex. a dairy farmer might not be skilled as a coffee farmer) can teach almost anybody willing to learn and work hard how to be a farmer given enough time. It will take a lot more than 20 minutes though. The key is a lot of people all over the world are either lazy and/or lack discipline to stay focused and follow a set of guidelines.
 

Matsufubu

Pelican
People don't realise how tricky farming is. It's not just sticking some seeds in the ground and a few months later you're sorted. There are so many variables, like weather, pests, etc that a poor year's harvest could cause a major problem. You've also got to think about the next generations of farmers, engineers, doctors etc. I'm sure they already have, but I'm curious as to what those plans would look like. They can't just go and wipe out people willy-nilly is what I'm saying.
 
The biggest concern is the nations that can't handle population growth are the ones increasing the fastest. Another issue is that much of developed nations growth (except for smart ones in Asia that put their own citizens first) is coming from barbarians fleeing overpopulation in their home nations.

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Niger is one nation that comes to mind as not being able to handle fast population growth. The climate is awful there (it is mostly desert). There is no coastline. It is surrounded by nations that have a lot of issues. Also, the nation lacks proper infrastructure to properly manage growth. Better land management and smarter development will help the nation handle population growth better, but I am not holding my breath on them becoming more civilized in the next 50 years.

 
I'm curious as to how they would control who dies. Kill off too many farmers and they too would starve. Perhaps they intend to all live in New Zealand, import farmers and kill off farmers everywhere else?
Their hopes lie in technology and hence high tech farming...


With drones and other automated machinery, they just need people in key positions and most of the hard earned knowledge would be in the databases. While harder and more difficult in real life than it sounds, it means that they will not need millions of experienced farmers in order to feed their "utopia".
 
First off we need to understand that overpopulation is a big fat lie, at least how it's presented by our beloved oligarchs and their lackeys. Let's give it some context

"What most frequently meets our view (and occasions complaint), is our teeming population: our numbers are burdensome to the world, which can hardly supply us from its natural elements; our wants grow more and more keen, and our complaints more bitter in all mouths, whilst Nature fails in affording us her usual sustenance. In very deed, pestilence, and famine, and wars, and earthquakes have to be regarded as a remedy for nations, as the means of pruning the luxuriance of the human race

The cite above doesn't come from the Schwab's books, or the Club of Rome. Not even from Malthus. It comes from Tertullian, a denizen of Carthage in the 2d Century AD, when the world's population was approximately 190 million. Yes, less than 200 million in the whole planet. Our perception of "overpopulation has been fueled by at least five main factors:
  • Propaganda since birth. I was raised as many of you on a "healthy" diet of documentaries, cartoons and movies (where many a villain was kind hearted but misunderstood and humanity was the virus) telling us how the biosphere was in danger and how global warming would kill us all....
  • City dwelling (most of us have lived in cities for most of our lives) and this experience has informed our perception so to speak.
  • Accelerated rural migration to the cities due to a myriad of reasons (thus making the cities ever more unbearable even if natural population growth in those places ie. births vs deaths is negative and has been for decades).
  • Ignorance of the outer world (related to number two).
  • Ignorance of history. Otherwise we would know that war has been with man since the beginning and that the neolithic or ancient eras were not havens of peace but life was as Hobbes put it, nasty, brutish and short.
Only when you understand this reality, you will understand why the elites have mostly abandoned space travel. They DO NOT WANT space travel or development in that field, at least not developments outside their control. If overpopulation was a real issue, they would have devoted more resources in sea colonization as a preparation to outer space exploration. If all the effort devoted in the covid charade had been channeled towards developing artificial gravity or better engines, that would have been achieved a long time ago. If the elites were worried about overpopulation they would have never sponsored such an environmentally hostile ideology like feminism since the lifestyle changes associated with "women's liberation" are utterly unsustainable and destructive (from the use of plastic diapers to the unnecessary demand for products that require synthetic materials whose production generates toxic outputs galore). If the elites were worried about overpopulation of the "undesireables", abortion and contraception would have never been approved, let alone sponsored in the first world.

If they were worried about overpopulation and the environment they would have phased out or never deployed GMOs in the first place, given the damage they do to the environment. One can chalk up some of these developments to human error or shortsightedness, but ALL OF THEM? In reality, if there is something that unites these developments and trends is the rise and improvement of control mechanisms.
  1. GMOs deployment: Global control of agriculture and dependency on globalist corporations even if natural species are destroyed or damaged in the process.
  2. Feminism: destruction of the family (even if the large swathes of the environment was destroyed as well) in order to leave the individual alone and unable to organize in the face of the state and corporations.
  3. Extensive use of sythentic fertilizers and other chemicals in lieu of other alternatives: Control of global agriculture.
  4. Abandonement of space race: control of the "peasants"
  5. Deliberate chemical pollution of rivers and oceans: destruction of the masculinity in the masses even if it entails extensive damage to the animals...
  6. So on and So on.
There is an essay or should I say an interview made to someone with the nick of Qadosh Erectus. The interview was hosted in a now defunct website (I don't remember the name right now) but you can find it in


There, Qadosh Erectus proceeds to describe our predicament with an eerie accuracy and it should be mentioned that this interview was performed in late 2009 according to the document, however is more relevant than ever.

Gentlemen, it's time to release our minds from propaganda, propaganda so destructive that I dare to surmise that many of the vaxx takers are doing it in order to die, because subconsciously they (or their souls?) know this is killshot however they wish to die, draggin our society with them. Let's not fall into the trap of our enemies.
 
This begs the following questions:

- what means do the elite use to force depopulation on us? Culturally, economically, socially, food, medically.
- what can we expect in the coming years?
- what's the role of the cojona vaccination in all of this?
- do they have a point or is it just outright Satanic control and a desire to play God on earth?

They have engineered a culture hostile to family formation. Feminism, mass women employment, metoo movement, transgenderism, pro-homo propaganda, credentialism, land inflation, price inflation and monetary devaluation, forced automation, migration, GMO foods, soon to be forced veganism, et al all those developments point in one direction: lower birthrates. Any of us that dares to begin a family is going against the tide and that's good.

Coming years: Too uncertain but I would expect more of the same plus a multi-vector attack spearheaded by the "vaccines". The economic collapse of the western world alone should plunge most of the third world in famine and civil war, thus lowering their population. Add a few plagues here and there, plus mandatory "vaccinations" in many of those places and you get the picture.

Colombia, Chile and Southafrica are in my opinion just harbingers of what's to come in most of the third world. Remember this same elite bribed and cajoled politicians there to impose lockdowns on poor economies where most people live hand to mouth. Bolsonaro in Brazil is about to undergo surgery and there is a high probability that he is either deposed or killed, in order to impose lockdowns there, impose communism (the opposition to Bolsonaro is mostly comprised of communist aligned with the Davos crowd) and break up that country as well. We are truly living "interesting times".
 

Stats

Woodpecker
I'm curious as to how they would control who dies. Kill off too many farmers and they too would starve. Perhaps they intend to all live in New Zealand, import farmers and kill off farmers everywhere else?
they all have fully self sustainable bunkers and private organic farms. they dont go to the grocery store thats for sure
 

Papist

Robin
I'm curious as to how they would control who dies. Kill off too many farmers and they too would starve. Perhaps they intend to all live in New Zealand, import farmers and kill off farmers everywhere else?
Interestingly, I read of a young Rothschild who went to New Zealand where he bought thousands of acres of farmland. I think Alex Jones interviewed him and made him look like a nice guy, whilst Alex ranted and talked over him.
 

Chains of Peter

Woodpecker
One thing I will add to this discussion (and knowing the audience here) is that white Americans and British in the red pill sphere are not innocent when it comes to participation in the depop agenda.

Much Protestant Anglo-American views regarding race flows from the philosemitism they embraced during the Wars of Religion. The Jews psyopped the British into believing they were a tribe of Israel and thus had a divine right/destiny to rule and manage the affairs of all the nations. Consider the British Israelite hymn "Jerusalem" (has a nice cover by ELP) and the Puritan ideal of the American colonies as a shining city on a hill, based on the Old Testament. If you take these "expose" quotes from rabbis about how the goyim are destined to be slaves of the Jew, but switched goy with nonwhites, and replaced Rabbi Kvetchenstein with Lord Huffnpuff (or even, indeed, Philip Duke of Edinburgh) can you really say the two are different?

The thing is that it is always easier to deny a good than it is to provide one, which is why population eugenics has focused mainly on democide, abortion and contraception (and why red pill sphere efforts to encourage assortative mating between blue eyed blondes have proven inadequate). The problem is that pro-sterility propaganda has only been effective in highly industrialized societies where real labor is seen as a thing of the past, nobody sees a link between their own "work" and societal upkeep and the welfare state is strong. In poorer countries, people still rely on labor to get things done and that comes from reproduction. So your average African or SEAsian is not going to be swayed by a Sex and the City lifestyle of planned sterility when a shortage of workers means the harvest will go uncollected.

The massive push to develop the rest of the world is not out of the kindness out of the NGO's hearts but so that Africans, Asians and LatAmericans can decouple labor from production and let the vices of sloth and effeminacy render them vulnerable to population propaganda and stop breeding.
 

Dr Mantis Toboggan

Kingfisher
Gold Member
People don't realise how tricky farming is. It's not just sticking some seeds in the ground and a few months later you're sorted. There are so many variables, like weather, pests, etc that a poor year's harvest could cause a major problem. You've also got to think about the next generations of farmers, engineers, doctors etc. I'm sure they already have, but I'm curious as to what those plans would look like. They can't just go and wipe out people willy-nilly is what I'm saying.

You and I know that, but I'm not sure they do.
 
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