InternationPlayboy said:
The Destruction of Language Thread
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Many posts in this thread are very pertinent to this discussion:
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-13376.html
http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-13376.html
The word 'like'...unfortunately, I've caught myself using it as well. I hate it, just a fluff word that adds nothing to what you're saying and makes you sound like an idiot.
How about the destruction of humor? HuffPo apparently runs this piece about the funniest tweets by women in a given week.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/....html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular#slide=more293335
I grinned at the "Lean in" one because it's so stupid.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/....html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular#slide=more293335
I grinned at the "Lean in" one because it's so stupid.
Phobia which is normally a rather nasty psychological fear of something. To the point it effects everyday life. Like claustrophobia (fear of tight places) where a person would go out of their way to avoid being in enclosed tight spaces.
Its now used as a political term to bash opposing view points. The people throwing out these terms are also not psychologist as well.
Homophobic
Islamophobic
Those are the more popular ones I can think of. Granted they use an ic rather than ia at the end of the word.
Its now used as a political term to bash opposing view points. The people throwing out these terms are also not psychologist as well.
Homophobic
Islamophobic
Those are the more popular ones I can think of. Granted they use an ic rather than ia at the end of the word.
kbell said:
Back in colonial times, the Federalists (the ones who wanted to make our current government, rather than use the shitty Articles of Confederation) were the ones who pegged their opponents as the Anti-Federalists. My professor told me the other day that that was one of the bigger reasons why the Federalists won in the end.
It makes sense if you think about it. Once you put a negative spin on something and it sticks, people don't want to associate with it. No one wants to be anti-anything or anything-phobic, it makes them sound like a bitch.
faulty premise. while lots of words are being misused or used differently than before its not the "destruction" of language because language is never "complete" a words meaning is defined by the masses. italian was tje equivalent of latin ebonics back in the day. until dante wrote the divine comedy. now shitty, poor person latin is a bona fide language, italian. its not as if our english is less complete than shakespeares (both are considered modern english, billy shakes was NOT old english), nor is shakespeares english less complete than chaucers. a language never "finishes" evolving
shameus_o'reaaly
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"the exception that proves the rule"
99% of people who use that phrase have no clue as to what it means, and if Francis Bacon was alive to see them rolling their eyes and spouting it, he would beat them to death with a frozen chicken for ignoring logic and common sense
99% of people who use that phrase have no clue as to what it means, and if Francis Bacon was alive to see them rolling their eyes and spouting it, he would beat them to death with a frozen chicken for ignoring logic and common sense
Grit
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"Friend" has to be the most diluted and deconstructed word today. It takes the place of acquaintenance, coworker, relative, classmate, roommate, fuck buddy, person you hate, person you want to know, person you barely know, beta orbiter, etc. Not to mention that the word endures lies of people who you lie about being friends with.
Feminism is partly to blame, since women dilute language on a regular basis to protect the sisterhood. Technology is partly to blame because everyone enumerates and quantifies their relationships.
I hate the very concept of the word. It would be much better if all relationships were in the context of actions. Wingman, teammate, coworker, coffee buddies, etc.
Feminism is partly to blame, since women dilute language on a regular basis to protect the sisterhood. Technology is partly to blame because everyone enumerates and quantifies their relationships.
I hate the very concept of the word. It would be much better if all relationships were in the context of actions. Wingman, teammate, coworker, coffee buddies, etc.
kbell said:
I once saw a doc on TV about a woman who was arachnophobic (scared of spiders) Whenever she went out of the house she wore a sort of mask and took at least half an hour to duck tape all openings on her clothes shut such as her sleeves, trouser etc etc.
Now that's a phobia!
Never saw anyone covering up that much to avoid gays or muslims. It's a political correct term indeed.
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LibertarianBootyHunter said:
I have to defend baby mama/baby daddy. They express meaning no other phrase expresses as concisely. Ex-wife/ex-husband? No, they weren't married. Ex-girlfriend/ex-boyfriend? Can't assume that. Often the only real relationship is girl I happened to knock up while fucking around/guy who knocked me up. There's literally no relationship except man/woman who is the father/mother of my child.
I.e., baby mama/baby daddy.
kbell said:
Yes. This topic is very serious.
Our language is our programming, it is how we communicate with others. We are conditioned at a young age to associate emotions with certain words. Orwell saw what was going on and you guys are perceptive to pick up on it. This is going on at a feverish pace within our society.
As one example, how do you justify the destruction of a man for normal heterosexual behavior? You redefine rape as a man spontaneously touching a woman (perhaps a pat on the back?), and in the future, expand this to include verbally offending them.
When people hear the world rape, they think of a violent, painful, and emotionally torturous scenario. The people who hear the accusations associate the negative emotions with the accused. It is automatic and visceral, it is not rational.
A clean and clear language is necessary for society to function and communicate effectively. Muddling it sews confusion and allows for the slow boil of changing the meaning of words and behavior of people over time.
As for why, the agenda can be seen by what words are being changed, and what emotions they are trying to evoke.
Example of negative associations:
- Rape/sexual harassment: Now expanded to include behavior that in the past was considered benign for a guy trying to get laid
- Abuse: Now expanded to include a guy not letting his wife spend their last $100 on shoes and makeup
- Homophobic: Created to discredit anyone who doesn't want to see in their face half naked leather clad men acting out depraved acts.
- Anti-semetic: Created to discredit anyone who criticizes Israeli foreign policy
Examples of positive associations:
- Marriage: Instead of the prisoner dilemma. Bait and switch. A preemptively void contract that entails no legal protections, and greater legal liability. Not what people think when they hear the word. Marriage No longer exists.
- Immigration reform: not invasion
- Refugeess: not economic migrants
Additionally, in general, hard sounds also add to the negative word assocaition. Letter's like 'k', 't' sound harsh, while softer sounds like 's', 'l', 'm' sound gentle. Socialism sounds gentler on the ears compared to Communist, though they essentially describe the same political system.
Words can be used as weapon. Their manipulation heralds the arrival of a Trojan horse or false hysteria. All we can do to stop the rot is to call a spade a spade, and to use the tools of those who seek to confuse against them.
Further reading (Crass at times, but the message is solid): https://wimminz.wordpress.com/2011-03/mind-your-language/
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