The destruction of modern day women

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
In my experience, most western raised white women start to really mature and grow up right about the time they turn 40. I suppose the hormones slow down, they can think clearer, they start to really appreciate men and other people, and they are now unable to have children. It is a cruel fate, and something men should prevent happening to women. But previous generations of men, long before use, allowed satan to once again temp Eve, this time with "equal rights" rather than an apple.

By the time they are 40. That is probably the time they are supposed to become Grandmothers.
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
Women start to mature once they start their steep decline. Once she realizes that the decline starts, she gets less attention and her options run out, then she will start to realize she has to make some moves (the so called epiphany phase usually in late 20s, followed by the wall early to mid 30s). Usually early 30s they'll start to get uncomfortable, then by 35 the all out screaming of where all the good and responsible men are will become louder and louder. This situation then is so uncomfortable and dire first and foremost because she had never expected it would come. She thought the grass would be evergreen, the partylights would always be on, the roulette would keep spinning, the options and attention always would be there. Hitting that wall in your 30s, and then having to move your entire world view and habits and manners around quite frankly, while the clock is ticking which will determine the next 50 years to come, is by all means a very challenging situation.

The problem is not coming to that conclusion far earlier. Its going to be a unstoppable trainwreck unless they start realizing much early on. Of course their souls could still be saved. But as for marriage and family not so much.
 

Yeagerist

Kingfisher
Orthodox Catechumen
Aussie Sydney Watson and the girl in the purple (Pearl Davis) did pretty well against a hostile panel. Some of these pro-feminist women are truly unstable.
Seriously, expecting a globohomo propaganda piece like Vice to be fair towards those believing in wrongthink? At this point in time, I would turn down any invitation to engage in debate or interview, knowing that the rules are rigged against me.

Mainstream "news" doesn't even try to tell the news anymore, but rather just present a drama show loosely based on real-time events being modified together through an approved narrative. Sometimes telling the exact polar opposite of reality. And just like any TV series, they're oriented towards a particular audience. And that particular audience doesn't consist of people who are fed up with the elites' falsehoods. That's why they needed woke capitalism to provide the resources and revenue for indoctrination, because big brands are oriented towards the market consisting of the exact demographic needed.

Even if the US is already declining geopolitically, even if more and more young men in the West are marginalized and discriminated against—many affluent liberal females with enough disposable income will still believe that they're oppressed and that Russia is still set to lose the war, because that's what the news and woke capital tell them. And they won't care about the veracity or accuracy of the stories, because their female nature inherently loves drama. I wouldn't be surprised if many feminists who are hating on Tate right now also subconsciously view him as the prince charming who was wronged.
 

LothropStoddard

Sparrow
Trad Catholic
Its like watching misery unfold before our very eyes. That is a statistical disaster. First, the idea that all these women are having the time of their life and are commanding this and in charge of that, is not true. Its math. The simple truth of it all is that for every VP position there are scores of directors, associates, assistant VPs, managers etc. So even though there are more women in these slots, the proportions remain exactly the same. And even among the women that do get these jobs, its due to diversity. And, let's not forget that spending most of your time in a confining office space surrounded by, at best, indifferent people who'd you'd never spend time with on your own is no way to live. Plus, the fact that whatever chance these women had for companionship let alone a family is long gone. They will die alone and depressed and in pain. Time will tell, but, I think we may never see these people. They'll become shut-ins and bag ladies. Deliberately blending into the background. As this cohort continues to age they'll become invisible and likely in a self-induced state of ostracization. All of it is due to the chance they'll actually see a young 25 yr old pushing a baby down the street, which will crush them entirely.

I struggle as a Christian to feel sympathy for these women, they did it to themselves and had an attitude to boot. I think we all feel that way. But, don't think for a second they're going to be better off. That BMW 3 series, 2 br condo are hardly a substitute for loneliness. And in the end, all these possessions are going to be wasted on a single individual that realizes she never needed any of this in the first place. There will be a great catharsis among these people and it will not be pleasant.
Agree on all points. However what will this catharsis lead to? Enlightenment? I have trouble picturing women, especially en masse, admitting they've lived stupidly their whole lives. I think they'll just hate men even more and dig deeper holes. Their heroes are people like Madonna.
 

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
Called it. The Vice Debates clip was heavily edited according to Sydney Watson.

Warning: Language.



@SydneyLWatson thread continue...

Why are we using a psycho photo of me in the thumbnail lmao

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I tried my best to listen and be respectful while I was participating on this panel, but some of the ideas being espoused were gross.
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At one stage, one of the women went on a rant about refugees and asked why we aren't discussing other countries.

I wish Vice had included some of the absolutely irrelevant things that were said so people could see how much of a struggle this was to engage with.

By the way - this clip is my edit. Trying to demonstrate some of the buzzwords and random comments. You can watch the full context in the Vice video on their YT.
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I updated my bio to reflect my new status in life.

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"Everyone who disagrees with me is a fascist"

The absolute nerve of this person is breathtaking.

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So we are clear: Vice edited the s*** out of this "debate", and Eli knows that.

Pretending that this interaction went down exactly as edited in the video (it didn't lmao) is about what I expect from a person who can't determine their biological reality.

Note: She's talking about "transwoman" @EliErlick's tweet.
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Imagine being this big of a dumb**** that you think a company needing to edit you so you DON'T look stupid is a win.

Unedited version would be great. Then everyone can see you getting called out by moi about your SA allegations and drug operation. :)

For those who are blocked by the big guy.

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Telling a woman to "shut the f*** up" for expressing an opinion he doesn't like is very on brand for a leftist man like @hasanthehun

Speaking of "babies", how old really was that underage girl you slept with?
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My favourite male feminists are the ones who pump up other biological men cosplaying women, while simultaneously telling biological women to be quiet.

Congrats. Feminism defeated the patriarchy by becoming the patriarchy.
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I love that the two people who are trying to roast me today are accused of sexual assault and statutory rape.

Clean your room, boys.
 

Yeagerist

Kingfisher
Orthodox Catechumen
Agree on all points. However what will this catharsis lead to? Enlightenment? I have trouble picturing women, especially en masse, admitting they've lived stupidly their whole lives. I think they'll just hate men even more and dig deeper holes. Their heroes are people like Madonna.
One truth I have realized that is too harsh and bitter for even many Christians to handle, is that many of these women are simply too far gone, for all intents and purposes. At this point, no self-respecting man, Christian or not, can ever take upon himself to be tied for the rest of his earthly life for one of these women, the risk is too great.

I once said this on social media long ago (before Covid) and got cancelled by my own fellow based friends. This is the one thing I'm afraid to speak about now, even among a social circle like this forum. And for the lady trads reading this, I'm truly sorry, but this is a spiritual burden you have to collectively bear.

Called it. The Vice Debates clip was heavily edited according to Sydney Watson.
How long will people expect objectivity from globohomo propaganda pieces and keep up the pretense that they're nothing else but news?

With the way that globalist propaganda is oriented to hold the minds of deluded woke people, participating in a "debate" like this one will only make you a villain in the eyes of the target audience. And stop expecting that you're gonna change the mind of even a hundred liberals watching that video. Use your brains, choose your battles and avoid entering arenas where the rules are rigged against you from the beginning.

I would rather prefer if a discussion over feminism by women be held on a non-Western outlet like Al Jazeera, TRT, WION or CGTN, where there is a higher chance of objective discourse due to these non-Western cultures being comparatively free of clown world infestation.
 

Blade Runner

Hummingbird
Orthodox
I could only assume that as they enter their 50s and beyond they will try to "disciple" younger women to hate men as a last-ditch effort to cope.
This is the saddest part. Instead of reflecting on life and what is important, and directing others to look at things differently, they keep up with the only thing they are competitive with - attempts at attracting men. That is, the flip side of this being sabotaging other women from getting men, which is generally their biological instinct as well. That's the positive feedback loop that the elites or demons are aware of - they don't have an interest in critical analysis, just emotion and self interest. By destroying the chances for men to bring women into the fold of a family life and children, they advance the cycle of problems by destroying men's prospects through women foregoing youth to become weak versions of men, and then it becomes too late biologically to turn it around. The blaming of men for this only enhances the sick cycle: "Why don't you desire us at washed up/old ages"?
 

Yeagerist

Kingfisher
Orthodox Catechumen
This is the saddest part. Instead of reflecting on life and what is important, and directing others to look at things differently, they keep up with the only thing they are competitive with - attempts at attracting men. That is, the flip side of this being sabotaging other women from getting men, which is generally their biological instinct as well. That's the positive feedback loop that the elites or demons are aware of - they don't have an interest in critical analysis, just emotion and self interest. By destroying the chances for men to bring women into the fold of a family life and children, they advance the cycle of problems by destroying men's prospects through women foregoing youth to become weak versions of men, and then it becomes too late biologically to turn it around. The blaming of men for this only enhances the sick cycle: "Why don't you desire us at washed up/old ages"?
Add that with how niche online interests like K-Pop naturally draws in these demographics of women and thus generate an echo chamber to groom young girls into being men-haters, and then these girls will go through more or less the same experiences and life choices, then hit the wall and suffer the fruits of their actions, rinse and repeat. It's all rooted in this toxic attitude: "If I cannot be happy, then neither should men."

That's why I said that these women are far too gone, and many self-respecting men will no longer consider them as a good option. So the way for these women to counter the responses by men is to pre-emptively ruin the prospects of younger women to be proper wives and mothers.
 

Optimus Princeps

Woodpecker
Orthodox Catechumen
One thought I've had is that why do american women go out of their way to be deliberately repulsive to masculine and virtuous men? The vast majority have no issue loudly proclaiming that they're a feminist, pro baby killing, support BLM, are a girlboss, and repeat phrases like if your man doesn't let you go out clubbing or wear whorish clothes out then he's insecure and you should dump him.

Do they not see how this instantly disqualifies them from any guy who would want to date them? At the very least, I notice the hotter girls are less vocal and repulsive about this, but will still support all of that to other girls, but may try to remain a bit more feminine in front of men they're interested in. I know the answer is brainwashing, women not having critical thinking, the sick state of the sexual marketplace in the west, etc... But I still can't fully wrap my head around what's going on to have this level of mental illness. Surely even if a person has an iq of 100 they possess some level of self-reflection and critical thinking?? Because I'm leaning towards thinking they don't, which is a big black pill as that's 50% of the population and another 25% is even stupider than that.
 

Towgunner

Kingfisher
Agree on all points. However what will this catharsis lead to? Enlightenment? I have trouble picturing women, especially en masse, admitting they've lived stupidly their whole lives. I think they'll just hate men even more and dig deeper holes. Their heroes are people like Madonna.

How will it unfold? I can't say specifically. All I know is that our current situation writ large is unsustainable. Perhaps, these cat-spinster women continue to devolve in their hatred and misery. Unfortunately, they all vote or a capable of voting. But, when I pan out and see this from a broader perspective, I see unsustainability, and if something is unsustainable its not going to last.

BTW, I'm about to write a separate post on this subject. What have these women done to themselves? Tortured by the emptiness of their possessions, which is all they have to show for themselves, and at the same time conflicted with their natural urges, mainly, with procreation, these women have created a hell of their own making, which is the worst of all hells because you made it. You have only yourself to blame. These women are not accomplished or, gasp, role models, they're cautionary tales. Things will change. Elsewhere very large and seemingly unrelated developments are making our future a lot different including a lower standard of living.

As entrenched as wokism seems to be right now, its fundamentally fragile and dependent on a variety of conditions necessitating its existence. Most of these conditions, if not all of them, are going to be stressed and broken going forward. For instance, as we've said many times before, feminism, and for that matter wokism, can only exist in a state of material abundance. That's going away.
 

Blade Runner

Hummingbird
Orthodox
One thought I've had is that why do american women go out of their way to be deliberately repulsive to masculine and virtuous men? The vast majority have no issue loudly proclaiming that they're a feminist, pro baby killing, support BLM, are a girlboss, and repeat phrases like if your man doesn't let you go out clubbing or wear whorish clothes out then he's insecure and you should dump him.

Do they not see how this instantly disqualifies them from any guy who would want to date them? At the very least, I notice the hotter girls are less vocal and repulsive about this, but will still support all of that to other girls, but may try to remain a bit more feminine in front of men they're interested in. I know the answer is brainwashing, women not having critical thinking, the sick state of the sexual marketplace in the west, etc... But I still can't fully wrap my head around what's going on to have this level of mental illness. Surely even if a person has an iq of 100 they possess some level of self-reflection and critical thinking?? Because I'm leaning towards thinking they don't, which is a big black pill as that's 50% of the population and another 25% is even stupider than that.
As much as we don't like to talk about it since it treats humans as cogs in a greater machine or system, the best explanation continues to be the behavioral sink issue, which then puts us at odds with caring for and respecting one another. Ultimately we don't have any real control over this is the way I rationalize it, so we're just talking about honest and big picture analysis. It is a dangerous landscape to enter into, but the last few years have clearly shown us that most people are far more average or worse than we ever realized, in terms of action, quality, principle, etc. I don't say this in a demeaning way, and the key is that as a christian, you are to still love your brother regardless of his and your faults. But the fact remains, the society at large right now is pretty pathetic, and we have entered a period where for whatever reason (the evils of the elites or the large population of low quality/fake money/welfare/social nonsense) a population decline seemingly must occur. I think to many it is uncomfortable to come to this realization because it seems so impersonal, and we were on a path where it looked like our modern life was sustainable. I think we on the forum have realized for various social, religious, and practical reasons, it's not.
 

Optimus Princeps

Woodpecker
Orthodox Catechumen
As much as we don't like to talk about it since it treats humans as cogs in a greater machine or system, the best explanation continues to be the behavioral sink issue, which then puts us at odds with caring for and respecting one another. Ultimately we don't have any real control over this is the way I rationalize it, so we're just talking about honest and big picture analysis. It is a dangerous landscape to enter into, but the last few years have clearly shown us that most people are far more average or worse than we ever realized, in terms of action, quality, principle, etc. I don't say this in a demeaning way, and the key is that as a christian, you are to still love your brother regardless of his and your faults. But the fact remains, the society at large right now is pretty pathetic, and we have entered a period where for whatever reason (the evils of the elites or the large population of low quality/fake money/welfare/social nonsense) a population decline seemingly must occur. I think to many it is uncomfortable to come to this realization because it seems so impersonal, and we were on a path where it looked like our modern life was sustainable. I think we on the forum have realized for various social, religious, and practical reasons, it's not.
Do you think people have always been like this and it's just expressed more due to the environment, or are they actually getting stupider. What do you mean by behavioral sink issue? It makes me think of the movie Idiocracy.

Look at zoomer girls compared to older generations. For example they dress up extravagantly and reveal a lot of skin when going to workout now, and gym culture is much bigger with zoomers. They always bring tripods to the gym and film themselves like they're making pumping iron. A lot of the girls take anavar and get so lean to the point where they miss their periods. Honestly that's still better than being fat and I'd 100% take a zoomer varbie gym bunny over a fat waste of space blue-hair millennial feminist broad, but I'm just trying to compare the change from generation to generation.

Maybe they're more vain because they were born into social media and the internet is their reality. I remember when I was a kid you were weird if you lived in the internet and took it seriously. Now the zoomer girls unironically take the internet seriously and don't have real life relationships. I think this plays a factor in how brainless they are with guys now too and they're unable to be content in a relationship, even if they get a guy up to their inequitably high standards, once they date for a while inevitably he cannot maintain frame and shows weakness and his humanity, at which point they dump him and move on to one of the many other guys in her dm's and the cycle repeats itself.
 

Blade Runner

Hummingbird
Orthodox
Do you think people have always been like this and it's just expressed more due to the environment, or are they actually getting stupider. What do you mean by behavioral sink issue?
Yes, in a sense, but it was more unnoticeable since the propaganda and technology at large couldn't get to them - they had to live in a real life of family and survival, to an extent (or to a great extent). I think it's a matter of fact that the average person is less sensible and dumber than ever before, due to the sheer increase in people caused by/due to fake monetary and welfare systems (dysgenics). I've talked about the sperm count thing, which is multifactorial, but it's just a statistical issue: there aren't enough extremes on the bell curve to increase (or decrease) the "average" count. There has been a left shift of the bell curve in terms of quality. As systems grow, the average swamp out the rest. This isn't that bad except for the fact that there is something about our biology that is objective throughout time: the girl is either hot and shows signs of youth or fertility, or she doesn't. The guy looks the part and carries himself well, or he doesn't. The disparity is getting greater in every aspect of life. There are a lot of really successful and fit men, mostly because their window is so much bigger than a short window woman, in the sense that men desire very obvious things physically from women, and know the window is short. However, most women don't see all of these men because there are so many more average to bad dudes that "get in the way." You can check behavioral sink on wiki. A version or explanation of this might be what others on the forum have called the extreme devolution to r-strategy for women especially, even among genetic/racial groups that evolved with high k-selection. That is, with excess abounding and survival not an issue, female indifference to child rearing arises, and responsibility / traditional elements of life, vanish.
 

Sooth

Pelican
Gold Member
I just listened to a Coffeezilla video called "Confessions of a copy writer".

It's 2 years old, but still totally relevant. Quite a based guy explaining how use used to be into it to make money but got out because it was just absolute pure fabricated nonsense that is A-B tested to get the perfect hook.

That is exactly what most modern women are doing on social media. Creating a totally fabricated life for attention.
No wonder Anxiety is rampant among these women. Of course it is when you're living an obvious lie.
 

paternos

Kingfisher
Catholic
In the video of her walking you can feel the unhinged craziness when looking into her eyes. It honestly gave me chills seeing that. What a nutjob.
Perfect description, I tried looking in her eyes while watching this video and I'm scared. Yikes.

She reminds me of the Linkedin marketing girl with the eucalyptus towels and the recycled wood.

 
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