The destruction of modern day women

As I slept, or was awaking, I thought about these kind of things. The woman at work asks, why doesn't this guy ask me out? Uhh, because he can't read your mind and the rest of the women who "don't want to be bothered" might ruin his professional life for it. It's pretty clear that not having separation of the sexes with clear boundaries and understanding of life is just a recipe for confusion and disaster. Let alone the fact that it destroys fertility. At this point, the world is a set up, a joke in many ways, and we just have to fight through it, wait, or both.
 
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Sounds a bit ''too scripted to be through'', but if not, it's a perfect caption of a disciple of the religion of liberalism. Because whether the secularists know it or not, they are heavily religious, and their religion is liberalism. But what I'd ask these people is how does your religion work out for you? How does this worldview benefit you? Have you found peace, deep inner fulfillment, meaning and joy into it? We've all been into the secularist frame to a degree and we know from experience how these people feel. Their religion isn't working out well for them. Their worldview leads to the save me or kill me eyes, which universally can be seen in especially these damaged women. We should pray for them to find a way out, to a religion at least. However one final note of something I've come to realize is that these women would've been the most pious of Christian wives, or even nuns, in any given time before the 60s. They're just following the programming to a tee. If the programming would've been traditional, they'd make fantastic traditional wives, mothers and nuns. Now the programming is modernist, they make husks and travesties of these archetypes, if they even get to that point. We're all victims to some extent of the secularist system and once I realized this I'm having way more compassion for these women and don't feel this negative, friction based, reactionary response in myself anymore.
 
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It's disorientating to not know whether something is satire or unironic. It's such a knife-edge - either this woman is living/ going to live a very grounded and purposeful life which may also bless her in the life which is to come, or she's living a demonic life of self-laceration and suffering, which may also curse her in the life which is to come.

One of the most notable talks I've heard was from a monk with the words to a listener: once you die you will look back and see this life as a mere dream. The way we lived in that dream determines our eternity. You will remember me saying this.
 
Blade Runner said:
As I slept, or was awaking, I thought about these kind of things. The woman at work asks, why doesn't this guy ask me out? Uhh, because he can't read your mind and the rest of the women who "don't want to be bothered" might ruin his professional life for it. It's pretty clear that not having separation of the sexes with clear boundaries and understanding of life is just a recipe for confusion and disaster. Let alone the fact that it destroys fertility. At this point, the world is a set up, a joke in many ways, and we just have to fight through it, wait, or both.
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Its more evidently true that women go to work for the purposes of Gossip and to have an "experience". Its like high school drama for them.

Whilst men go to do actual work, make money & go home. And most men have no intention to flirt around & gossip with women at work because we ultimatley know its just wage slavery at the end of the day.
 
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She directs and stars in the AT&T Lilly commercials. I'm not trying to be crass, but she is known for having large breasts. She said she was harassed online because of it. She also said people have photoshopped her images, making her breasts stand out. She made a big deal about. She then wrote and directed a commercial making fun of short men:



Caractacus Potts said:
What makes this even more depressing is she is very attractive. She isn't overweight. She doesn't have a bull ring, nose ring or ear gauges. Her hair is a nice length and not the color of Kool-Aid. I don't see any tatoos on her neck. Her makeup is done tastefully. So much wrong with this video. Lord have mercy. :sad:
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A lot of normal looking woman believe this stuff. Unless they try to live by traditional religious beliefs and are with a man who lives by these beliefs, women are very susceptible to trends. Men follow trends but it's not as intense as with women. With women it is because historically they need to be protected. They can't defend themselves physically. Being rejected by the crowd feels more lethal to them.

One day when traditional values become more mainstream in society, these normal looking women will switch their values in a split second to follow the crowd and protect themselves. The problem is they would just switch back to leftism if that became the norm once again. They would need to develop strong traditional religious beliefs, and be with a man who lives by these beliefs, to resist.

Although anyone can change, the blue-haired gender studies types are more likely the die-hards who will hold onto their beliefs no matter how society changes. Leftist is their deeply held religious belief.
 
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Social media and influencers, and now particularly with TikTok

We have this very widespread behavior of watching yourself, talk to yourself

Social Media categorically requires a fair bit of ego, but this front camera day in the life of sh*t is a different monster
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First and foremost, you're no longer living or experiencing anything, because everything is content

Everything is curated, everything is for an audience

Everything must be perfect within the definition of whatever "brand" you have established
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But the bigger issue here feels like one of self-obsession, this is the parasocial relationship

It's most likely entirely unavoidable because you are literally spending large portions of basically every day looking at yourself that's looking at yourself
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I would almost bet money that the issue with this guy was that he wanted to spend time with her, he wanted her to be filming herself less

He intruded upon the relationship she has with her other self, the self inside the phone screen
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It's really sad, because she effectively found a soulmate

She decided at a young age she wants to live the luxury vagabond life and be a van hippie

And then she found a guy that she really likes, who's about the same age, who's good looking, who wants the same life
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But because parasocial relationships are inherently bad, inherently toxic, it's always going to end up this way

I'm betting this is far more widespread than most people realize, as a lot of young women seek to become influencers
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This is probably responsible for a lot of very questionable dating behavior among young women as well

Because you're inherently pre-selecting for men that aren't interested in you

A guy genuinely interested in you is going to require you to take time away from your other self
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On the other hand, some scummy player who's only there to get his xxxx xxx and eat your food doesn't care that you don't have time for him

Because he literally doesn't want that, he wants to get his xxxx xxx and leave
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I'm immediately reminded of the many videos I've seen of young women complaining about how many guys spend too long in the "Talking phase"

That's the part of the relationship that takes time, that takes time away from your parasocial relationship with yourself
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Just imagine how frustrated guys have to be

You're a guy that found the perfect girl, the complete perfect match, who's also incredibly attractive AND she told you you're the love of her life

And it still isn't enough
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I genuinely don't think so

The more I observe this younger generation the more I think the sexual behavior is downstream from this self parasocial behavior

It's a side effect of wanting to be your own spouse

Maquisard American @GMOShocktrooper
Replying to @GathererSkull
Bro I keep thingking about this one. “It’s the little things” like riding the xxxx she wanna ride. Trampled by donkeys. Narssacistic girl coomer. Her mind belong locked in a room as sex slaves.
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Self imposed Truman Show is a PERFECT description

Nathaniel @Nathaniel1326
It’s like a self imposed Truman Show.
But with more covert narcissism.

Excellent thread. A must read for single men. ⬇️
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Normalization of extreme "self love"

Straight men aren't given this, but you'll notice gay men are which is why they make up a noticeable portion of this kind of content too

Joe @educatedLame
Replying to @GathererSkull
Any idea what makes women so susceptible to online para social relationships?
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You're probably right

But her self parasocial relationship means that true "alone time" is so incredibly rare as to be more important than anything else

It's self inflicted

Agent Reyes @pointy_elbows
Replying to @GathererSkull

When she talks about having her ollipop in a park and just chilling, I don't think that's something she intends to film.

Many guys know what it's like to feel claustrophobic in a relationship.

Having breathing space makes you ultimately appreciate the time you have together more
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This doesn't actually change anything

She's living in his self inflicted situation that is, in part, for her parasocial self, and stalling life indefinitely for it

Also the entirety of human history is built on young couples living in small spaces

Abigail Burns @RealAbigailB
Replying to @GathererSkull

Something else nobody is considering is that they were living in a van together. Even the healthiest couples would be at each others throats in just a few weeks in such close quarters with no place to retreat to.
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No it's a thread about the ever increasing parasocial issue that's growing among young people in western society using this particular video as a jumping off point

It's pretty sure straight forward tbh

Douglas Fir @DouglasFir33
Replying to @GathererSkull

A 16-post thread condemning someone for liking the sound of their own voice too much, huh?
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This is actually where I first started getting the idea of the parasocial self

another Kyle @KyleHighCity
Replying to @GathererSkull

Its been said before but I feel like the biggest giveaway of this is the weird use of "pov youre doing this thing" on a video of themselves and not their pov doing the thing. It's not that they don't understand what pov is. Watching themselves act IS their actual point of view.
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They're obsessed with the person on the screen, the persona of who they are, it's one sided because your reflection can't love you back

It's unconscious narcissism

It's the entire premise of the thread, I literally went into great detail about it
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See above

I wouldn't say faux because to them I believe the relationship *feels real* but the relationship can't be real because again your reflection cannot reciprocate

Austin M. Craig @austinmcraig
Replying to @GathererSkull @SpiritedSparr0w

Clarifying: Do you mean they have a faux-relationship with their own Insta image?
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I would call it true narcissism, but I think that makes this sound like a personal issue where I think this is more a cultural one which is why I avoided it entirely

Cú Lyo @Cu_Lyo
Replying to @GathererSkull

I've never heard it put that way before. Advanced narcissism?
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I can't imagine how you WOULDN'T

It's why I refuse to make any real attempt to monetize this account

I don't want ANY obligation to the "Skull King"

Austin M. Craig @austinmcraig
Replying to @GathererSkull

Yeah. This makes sense. In a prior life I worked w YT influencers and saw a similar thing. The daily lifestyle vloggers would all eventually quit or go insane. They completely lost any sense of who they ACTUALLY were. It was all performance, and they lived it, all day every day.
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A big part of why this thread is so long and why I care is because I'm starting to believe this is "just what the kids do" in the same way in the 50s/60s kids suddenly went to burger joints and listened to rock & roll

And I think that's a problem

Sinicall the Always Picked @Sinicall1
Replying to @GathererSkull

I’ll be honest I don’t get why they bother with this so much, is it just the attention?
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Douglas Quaid said:
She looks and sounds a lot older than 21. She's going to be even more bitter and miserable as she gets older. You can already see it. Sad!
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I wrote this on a men’s forum years ago, and I got a lot of hate for it… But I stand ready to defend my belief that many men, who should’ve been married in a healthy society, will grow old, unmarried, due to the behavior of degenerate women in a degenerate society. I think this is a tragedy; a “silent sacrifice”, that many men, both voluntarily (mgtow) and involuntarily, will have to endure, in order to survive or correct the country they love.
 
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She is clearly running away from her parents. Doesn’t mention them once, leaves “the love of her life“ in another country, returns to her country, still lives out of a van. Yeah, she is running from her parents. Also nose ring lmao
 
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The incredible thing here is that a man chose this cold, rationalizing, indifferent woman to cohabitate with.

The biggest problem I see here is the fact that there are men who will choose a woman based on "communication" skills, which is pretty much the only thing she has going for her. "She seems smart" he probably said.
 
^Being single is substantially better than pursuing most of these women. Many of them are insane, and come with too much baggage. Too addicted to some pointless career, trying to get attention online or treating politics like their religion. It's like they're trying to push men away. They expect too much and offer nothing in return but red flags and liabilities. And when they show interest and you talk to some of them, it's like they have no social skills (probably from all the social media). I'd rather pursue hobbies, relax without stress during free time and a much more enjoyable career, even with a lower pay ceiling.

Mid 20s has generally been the cutoff for women, but even they're coming with a lot of baggage. Now it should be more like early 20s, and you still have to be careful. I used to think older guys going for 18-20 year olds were strange, but as a 32 year old I understand now, and don't even care if people don't like it. Single, late 20s and women in their 30s are awful. They are too far gone.

Most men aren't worth it as friends either.
 
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Men's expectations are too high also. There are still plenty of great girls with good personalities in the west but they get overlooked just like nice guys do because they are chunky, have bad style and don't know how to be sexy. The best thing to do at this point if you are in the west is to date immigrants or focus on personality in an out of shape homely girl. Go a few points below yours and Build her into the woman you would like to be if she is open to following your leadership. The more work you put in to become the best man you can be and the more attractive you are the better the chances a girl will submit to you. Get in the gym for several years together, clean up her diet, clean up her style, teach her the things you need in a wife. Guys equally just want a finished product almost as much as women do. We blame women for not wanting to grow together but you do not see the scenario I described above either

women are being destroyed, yeah who's fault is that for letting it happen
 
ginsu said:
Men's expectations are too high also. There are still plenty of great girls with good personalities in the west but they get overlooked just like nice guys do because they are chunky, have bad style and don't know how to be sexy. The best thing to do at this point if you are in the west is to date immigrants or focus on personality in an out of shape homely girl. Go a few points below yours and Build her into the woman you would like to be if she is open to following your leadership. The more work you put in to become the best man you can be and the more attractive you are the better the chances a girl will submit to you. Get in the gym for several years together, clean up her diet, clean up her style, teach her the things you need in a wife. Guys equally just want a finished product almost as much as women do. We blame women for not wanting to grow together but you do not see the scenario I described above either

women are being destroyed, yeah who's fault is that for letting it happen
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I've never met a woman who did not have suitors. There is so many unattractive women [by my standards] who are able to find perfectly normal men. In fact in my experience the women who are "homely" will friendzone you faster than some bimbo.

The women who have issues with dating usually are spoiled goods. By exchanging a couple words you can tell they're a colorful language who will work overtime to control and destroy you as their little pet project. I've met them. Men pick up on that and steer clear, especially when it starts sipping into their regular behavior like that. Usually concerns older women but it can start very young.

Not sure where you're seeing these magical women with unkept hair who get passed by. Men hunt, every moving target gets evaluated.
 
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ginsu said:
Men's expectations are too high also. There are still plenty of great girls with good personalities in the west but they get overlooked just like nice guys do because they are chunky, have bad style and don't know how to be sexy. The best thing to do at this point if you are in the west is to date immigrants or focus on personality in an out of shape homely girl. Go a few points below yours and Build her into the woman you would like to be if she is open to following your leadership. The more work you put in to become the best man you can be and the more attractive you are the better the chances a girl will submit to you. Get in the gym for several years together, clean up her diet, clean up her style, teach her the things you need in a wife. Guys equally just want a finished product almost as much as women do. We blame women for not wanting to grow together but you do not see the scenario I described above either

women are being destroyed, yeah who's fault is that for letting it happen
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I found this and fully believe God brought it into my life.

It's alotve work but so will be raising a family (and, to be honest, I've more than had my leisure time.)

Once you know how to teach someone, you have to find the right someone. Focus on conduct, this is my added tip.
Weight can be lost. Emotions can be calmed and refined. Conduct can rarely be taught.

Know who you are and what you're about.
Be up front with it from day one and don't change it just because of cries of 'inconvenience' or 'strangeness'.
You changing your entire goal or method because she cried is the same as giving up your bunk in a cell because your cellmate said 'I like that bed.'


That guy isn't going to call any shots on the yard or with his cellie. He won't run an effective team in the office or on his favorite game. And he won't be listened to by any woman he has as a wife.

You must fight.
 
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I've never met a woman who did not have suitors. There is so many unattractive women [by my standards] who are able to find perfectly normal men. In fact in my experience the women who are "homely" will friendzone you faster than some bimbo.

The women who have issues with dating usually are spoiled goods. By exchanging a couple words you can tell they're a colorful language who will work overtime to control and destroy you as their little pet project. I've met them. Men pick up on that and steer clear, especially when it starts sipping into their regular behavior like that. Usually concerns older women but it can start very young.

Not sure where you're seeing these magical women with unkept hair who get passed by. Men hunt, every moving target gets evaluated.
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All I can say on this is you will find what you look for and also receive what you put out into the world, negative or positive. It takes a certain presence and sensitivity to connect with another human being that has a good soul, if women with kind hearts are not recognizing and gravitating to you then there is a clue in that. One man can walk in the forest and be zoned out mentally as it's just a collection of biological stuff, while another sees the beauty and presence of god in the light coming through the leaves.

If you hold a grudge or bitterness against women you will just find more experiences to confirm these feelings and ideas, as good women are turned away from this energy
 
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I wrote this on a men’s forum years ago, and I got a lot of hate for it… But I stand ready to defend my belief that many men, who should’ve been married in a healthy society, will grow old, unmarried, due to the behavior of degenerate women in a degenerate society. I think this is a tragedy; a “silent sacrifice”, that many men, both voluntarily (mgtow) and involuntarily, will have to endure, in order to survive or correct the country they love.
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This is painfully obvious to me at this point, and it's not all that painful (more historically painful or when you understand that women aren't this propagandized or awful in the rest of the world, though we're getting there too) given that who would want to be with someone who has a short window of anything you value as a man, and won't offer you very much at all. Honestly, women have the best gig of all time (you get taken care of forever for basically cooking, cleaning and f'n) and they still doubled and a tripled down on that. What's more, when you see fatties thinking they should get guys 3 smv points higher, or more, you know it's over ...
 
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