The destruction of modern day women

Blade Runner

Crow
Orthodox
There are still plenty of great girls with good personalities in the west but they get overlooked just like nice guys do because they are chunky, have bad style and don't know how to be sexy.
If you get past the hambeast part, there are good girls :laughter:. Are you saying this with a straight face? Umm, beauty is the standard for men, if you forgot. Pleasant and caretaking/nurturing are the secondary characteristics, but very important, also almost critical (for marriage certainly).
Guys equally just want a finished product almost as much as women do.
If they've put in the work, now you're telling guys they need to put in MORE work. I'm unsure you're a male poster at this point.
Not sure where you're seeing these magical women with unkept hair who get passed by. Men hunt, every moving target gets evaluated.
Spot on. If I train a girl and get to the gym, then she reverts to her chocolate chip cookie love again, that'll be my fault too, I guess, right? I'm already 99%ile fitness, bro, now I have to train another person too? :rolleyes:
All I can say on this is you will find what you look for and also receive what you put out into the world, negative or positive.
Sorta true, but overstated and generally karmic nonsense. The biggest scumbags in the world have non fat women that behave. I don't have bad vibes, but that doesn't mean all of a sudden I'm going to see 20 year olds wanting to make marriage a priority. This isn't magic, and God doesn't necessarily care about us in this world, he cares about our salvation. I don't know why that is so hard to understand for people around here.
If you hold a grudge or bitterness against women you will just find more experiences to confirm these feelings and ideas, as good women are turned away from this energy
Again, irrelevant in a country where you can meet and be pleasant to really nice 30-somethings, but they still remain 30 somethings, and in this culture to boot (the main problem) ... which means they're unappealing to any man who has accomplished a good or great amount.

Put another way, if there aren't any good women to meet, they won't turn away - it's a non starter.
 

JCSteel

Pigeon
Other Christian
A generation of young modern women are being destroyed by the normalization of pornography in today's culture, as demonstrated by the growth of onlyfans during the last few years. As our society loses its sense of shame young girls see nothing wrong with what they are doing to themselves and the men who pay to see them naked.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
A generation of young modern women are being destroyed by the normalization of pornography in today's culture, as demonstrated by the growth of onlyfans during the last few years. As our society loses its sense of shame young girls see nothing wrong with what they are doing to themselves and the men who pay to see them naked.
SInce the software still is the same, women still innately feel that prostitution or having sex with many men is wrong. Even if there would be 0 shame. But I realize now that shame is a setup mechanism to protect people from bad decisions. Shame then is great. Shame a man who doesn't protect and provide for his family. Shame a woman who fails to do her duty.
 

Mrredsquare

Crow
Other Christian
A generation of young modern women are being destroyed by the normalization of pornography in today's culture, as demonstrated by the growth of onlyfans during the last few years. As our society loses its sense of shame young girls see nothing wrong with what they are doing to themselves and the men who pay to see them naked.
They're sexualizing children in schools when pornography is easily accessible on phones and making "being gay" cool.

In the past two year I have literally seen young girls making out in a local playground near me on at least two occasions.

It makes me so disgusted and angry.

It's not looking to good for the next generation.
 

Sandalwood Peak

Pigeon
Orthodox Inquirer
They're sexualizing children in schools when pornography is easily accessible on phones and making "being gay" cool.

In the past two year I have literally seen young girls making out in a local playground near me on at least two occasions.

It makes me so disgusted and angry.

It's not looking to good for the next generation.
The next generation is the one that has the most hope.

Right wingers are too prideful, like the other side. My generation and the ones that came before are known for double dipping, it's our signature move. We got to enjoy some of the benefits of what our predecessors had built while engaging in the neoliberal revolt against God. The further back you go the more the scales move to the former. It's fun for most people. It's still happening en masse today. Not exactly based. You can still go on Reddit and see devout liberals speak of things like marriage or martial arts while pretending they're normal people even though they're full of perversions and contradictions. Right wingers on the other hand don't even know what they're trying to conserve. Not enough conviction to even say you hate sin.

Yes some kids are getting mutilated. Yes some kids are very liberal. But they're kids. They're not smart, or special, or a ray of hope against a backdrop of bitter evil old men as women would like you to believe. When I was teenager I was attending an institution with absolutely awful human beings. They weren't bullying me per se but they were unbearable in personality. You could really see the complete contrast when a kid was pleasant to be around.

I don't worship kids. Not sure why everyone does. At least the Bible predicted it. So here's the deal - they will grow up. When you grow up you change a lot. There's not a single better motivator in life to be better and conscious with your soul than pain and suffering. No they're not going to need to be reprogrammed to be "conservative". The human experience is universal. We weren't taught to be racist or to believe in family. Social constructs is a lie. It's natural. They will radicalize beyond anything the current generations would consider healthy or acceptable. It will be their time and people who think they get to control the future are fooling themselves, the only thing you can change is the present. In fact the more we pivot to the third world in our affairs the more we will see a power struggle amongst different men to write their own history, and perhaps an absolute need to repeat ours. No one is going walk lockstep to the vision of some dead old fools who are us. Liberals won't be able to uproot our "racism" and "innate discrimination" through indoctrination and conservatives aren't going to be able to instill any values since we don't have any. All we know is our version of the golden years. I wouldn't consider that some sort of enlightenment. One thing for certain is they're not going to enjoy the pile of crap they inherited.
 

Blade Runner

Crow
Orthodox
The next generation is the one that has the most hope.

Right wingers are too prideful, like the other side. My generation and the ones that came before are known for double dipping, it's our signature move. We got to enjoy some of the benefits of what our predecessors had built while engaging in the neoliberal revolt against God. The further back you go the more the scales move to the former. It's fun for most people. It's still happening en masse today. Not exactly based. You can still go on Reddit and see devout liberals speak of things like marriage or martial arts while pretending they're normal people even though they're full of perversions and contradictions. Right wingers on the other hand don't even know what they're trying to conserve. Not enough conviction to even say you hate sin.

Yes some kids are getting mutilated. Yes some kids are very liberal. But they're kids. They're not smart, or special, or a ray of hope against a backdrop of bitter evil old men as women would like you to believe. When I was teenager I was attending an institution with absolutely awful human beings. They weren't bullying me per se but they were unbearable in personality. You could really see the complete contrast when a kid was pleasant to be around.

I don't worship kids. Not sure why everyone does. At least the Bible predicted it. So here's the deal - they will grow up. When you grow up you change a lot. There's not a single better motivator in life to be better and conscious with your soul than pain and suffering. No they're not going to need to be reprogrammed to be "conservative". The human experience is universal. We weren't taught to be racist or to believe in family. Social constructs is a lie. It's natural. They will radicalize beyond anything the current generations would consider healthy or acceptable. It will be their time and people who think they get to control the future are fooling themselves, the only thing you can change is the present. In fact the more we pivot to the third world in our affairs the more we will see a power struggle amongst different men to write their own history, and perhaps an absolute need to repeat ours. No one is going walk lockstep to the vision of some dead old fools who are us. Liberals won't be able to uproot our "racism" and "innate discrimination" through indoctrination and conservatives aren't going to be able to instill any values since we don't have any. All we know is our version of the golden years. I wouldn't consider that some sort of enlightenment. One thing for certain is they're not going to enjoy the pile of crap they inherited.
You are correct of course, what you are leaving out is the accelerator, and sometimes (from a nation-state point of view) for the worse: when the system goes broke. That might literally be happening before our eyes, but what becomes of it still would, or might take, up to a decade to fill the relative vacuum, or all the regional vacuums.
 

Douglas Quaid

Kingfisher
Bull rings and tattoos are obvious huge red flags, but the regular nose rings are so common now it's hard to make it a deal breaker. I'm not a fan of them, but damn they are all over. At least they aren't permanent like tattoos or completely repulsive like a bull ring.

Tattoos are one of the worst things about modern women. It destroys their beauty.
 
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budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
Warning: Language.

Despite what feminists say, women actually are turned off by male feminists.

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Stadtaffe

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Gold Member
Warning: Language.

Despite what feminists say, women actually are turned off by male feminists.
Serves him right the idiot, but then, on the other hand he was just brainwashed by all the propaganda that those of us here know better to keep away from. It does highlight though, that along with all the other globohomo agendas, that feminism and 'consent', for whatever other misery they cause, lower the birth rate, as Roosh once theorised the motivator for a lot of it.
 

paternos

Kingfisher
Catholic
I just want to quote some from Schopenhauer, who wrote about this topic more than a 100 years ago.

But in the West the woman, and especially the lady, finds herself in a false position; for woman, rightly called by the ancients sexus sequior, is by no means fit to be the object of our honour and veneration, or to hold her head higher than man and be on equal terms with him. The consequences of this false position are sufficiently obvious. Accordingly it would be a very desirable thing if this Number Two of the human race were in Europe also relegated to her natural place, and an end put to that lady-nuisance, which not only moves all Asia to laughter but would have been ridiculed by Greece and Rome as well. It is impossible to calculate the good effects which such a change would bring about in our social, civil and political arrangements. There would be no necessity for the Salic law: it would be a superfluous truism. In Europe the lady, strictly so-called, is a being who should not exist at all; she should be either a housewife or a girl who hopes to become one; and she should be brought up, not to be arrogant, but to be thrifty and submissive. It is just because there are such people as ladies in Europe that the women of the lower classes, that is to say, the great majority of the sex, are much more unhappy than they are in the East.

I share the challenge of relating to modern day women, I can see a good relation happening, but I don't see how it practically works out.

The only moment when I see true happiness in women is when they are with kids. A child like enthusiasm. It will even turn a grumpy sour 70 year old lady in a happy woman. It's fascinating.

In my own experience women are unable to provide original thought and for that reason are uninteresting speaking partners for men. None of my friends speak well with their wives. Women follow, and in modern society that means they follow culture; new clothes every season, because a new colour or style is "in fashion". Their biggest fear is how their female "friends" think over them. And that's mostly bad, women gossip over one another all the time, it's how they "connect". They vote how they think they should vote according to their friends an TV.

The social setting is problematic for women. Most women are unable to go counter the culture. I think you can marry a great foreign Christian girl but if you put her in Western modern society she will copy the women around her. Men are vulnerable to culture, but can go against it, women are powerless about it in my experience. Women are unable to deal with conflicting thoughts, they will fight it or mock it.

So you need an environment where young women can flourish and develop fruitful friendships. And I think that's the hardest at this moment in time.

Nonetheless we are meant for eachother, man and wife, procreation. Because that intrigues me, we are meant for eachother.

I desire a woman to build a family with, a woman who finds joy in running a household and taking care of children, I belief that if I align well with God a household can be fruitful.

I think the only way is to form or join communities with a similar desire, in which the women can build friendships with other healthily aigned women. Modern culture is a parasite, modern magazines, TV, social media. It triggers women at their weakest.

And I see many women be unhappy, working 40 hours per week, having kids, that they dump at day care with an uninterested 19 year old girls (or men), being 35 still going out on party weekends with girlfriends where they get drunk. They are all stressed out, unhappy, while faking happiness.

Then the question becomes, also for myself, how do I relate to this reality? And is there a road to take? I don't know to be honest.

I can see roads to certain quite secluded church communities, which are very scarce, i can pray or wisdom in this matter, somehow I feel I need to find a road in this, if I don't, I can't ever take a woman on this road with me and build a family. And I think this is the low birth rate problem, it's just because I and many with me see no meaningful way.

I don't think the problem is women, but the problem is culture, which is anti-Christian, anti the natural order of things, which makes women unhappy, but because we can not see beyond it (including myself) it's hard to imagine a future.

As Schopenhauer says this western "lady" is a farce. It's a joke.
 

Papaya

Peacock
Gold Member
Warning: Language.

Despite what feminists say, women actually are turned off by male feminists.

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Of course she's repulsed by his mamby pamby approach. Its unnatural. This is exactly how the post modern , neo marxist reprogramming of western culture was intended to work: Re condition social mores into being inversions of biological facts in order to disrupt the natural order.
 

Blade Runner

Crow
Orthodox
Then the question becomes, also for myself, how do I relate to this reality? And is there a road to take? I don't know to be honest.
Great post. In clown world, this becomes the question, once one has already figured out that the rest of your post is accurate. Think about how sad it is that the islamic world is closer to healthy than the "west" in terms of sex roles. That's how bad these cultures of the west truly are.

I'm sure many others in history have said these things, so God please have mercy and forgive us, but come quickly already, sheesh - nevertheless, your will be done
 

Bird

Ostrich
Catholic
I just want to quote some from Schopenhauer, who wrote about this topic more than a 100 years ago.

But in the West the woman, and especially the lady, finds herself in a false position; for woman, rightly called by the ancients sexus sequior, is by no means fit to be the object of our honour and veneration, or to hold her head higher than man and be on equal terms with him. The consequences of this false position are sufficiently obvious. Accordingly it would be a very desirable thing if this Number Two of the human race were in Europe also relegated to her natural place, and an end put to that lady-nuisance, which not only moves all Asia to laughter but would have been ridiculed by Greece and Rome as well. It is impossible to calculate the good effects which such a change would bring about in our social, civil and political arrangements. There would be no necessity for the Salic law: it would be a superfluous truism. In Europe the lady, strictly so-called, is a being who should not exist at all; she should be either a housewife or a girl who hopes to become one; and she should be brought up, not to be arrogant, but to be thrifty and submissive. It is just because there are such people as ladies in Europe that the women of the lower classes, that is to say, the great majority of the sex, are much more unhappy than they are in the East.

As Schopenhauer says this western "lady" is a farce. It's a joke.

Is this a qoute from On Women / Über die Weiber ?
 
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