The destruction of modern day women

Barring health issues or other extreme mitigating circumstances, a woman over the age of 35 without children almost certainly possesses a range of personality traits and/or life experiences that make her wholly unsuitable as a partner. In a nutshell, she's either extremely selfish, extremely short-sighted or extremely stupid. She's also very likely to be heavily emotionally scarred by her previous failed relationships.

The one woman I really got to know off a dating site recently is 40 without children (I'm 39, also childless). She is very beautiful (she looks like Jessica Chastain), and is likewise a bit obsessed with physical appearance - her own and others. We still get coffee and chat, although I'm not holding my breath.

Anyway, I think she is a decent woman but the main thing with her is that as a single woman for so long, she has received (and continues to receive) lots and lots of attention and validation from different men. And that is maybe her biggest weakness - would she be able to shut all that validation down and be satisfied with just one man's attention and love? It's hard to say. But in asking that question, I turned it back on myself and realized that is also my biggest question mark - as an unmarried man for my entire life, could I be satisfied with just one woman? And ultimately it's the more important question as I'm the only person that I can control.

Lastly, we both have to realize that just because a person of the opposite sex wants to sleep with you, doesn't mean that person wants to marry you (leaving aside whether it would even be a good marriage). Both of us have become addicted to validation from the opposite sex, but I think her, more than myself, mistakenly equates the attention she receives to her actual marital value. I think she believes she would be "settling" on me.
 
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The one woman I really got to know off a dating site recently is 40 without children (I'm 39, also childless). She is very beautiful (she looks like Jessica Chastain), and is likewise a bit obsessed with physical appearance - her own and others. We still get coffee and chat, although I'm not holding my breath.

Anyway, I think she is a decent woman but the main thing with her is that as a single woman for so long, she has received (and continues to receive) lots and lots of attention and validation from different men. And that is maybe her biggest weakness - would she be able to shut all that validation down and be satisfied with just one man's attention and love? It's hard to say. But in asking that question, I turned it back on myself and realized that is also my biggest question mark - as an unmarried man for my entire life, could I be satisfied with just one woman? And ultimately it's the more important question as I'm the only person that I can control.

Lastly, we both have to realize that just because a person of the opposite sex wants to sleep with you, doesn't mean that person wants to marry you (leaving aside whether it would even be a good marriage). Both of us have become addicted to validation from the opposite sex, but I think her, more than myself, mistakenly equates the attention she receives to her actual marital value. I think she believes she would be "settling" on me.
No matter your age, 40 is way too old. If she doesn't have fertile eggs I don't care if she's the fairer sex.

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While the things discussed in this thread are not necessarily untrue, this forum has gone past woman-bashing/complaining. Look in the mirror, please God, and He will give you a woman that you deserve. Complaining about womankind won't get you anywhere.
why not close the thread ?, move the discussion for single guys seeking a good partner to an already existing apropriate thread
 
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why not close the thread ?, move the discussion for single guys seeking a good partner to an already existing apropriate thread
I would have no issue moving the discussion to another thread if it exists. Originally, I saw some discussion here on online dating and decided to add my observations/questions. My intention is not to blackpill. Topics like single mothers, validation seeking, and hard age limits for a female partner are quite helpful.

I believe it was Roosh or another poster that said the purpose of marriage is to help both people become closer to God. I agree with that and am approaching my search in that way.
 
I believe it was Roosh or another poster that said the purpose of marriage is to help both people become closer to God. I agree with that and am approaching my search in that way.

Yeah I literally told this to the woman I'm talking toand almost scared her away, I don't think she thought I would be any fun. And she's a Christian who goes to church. I phrased it something like that I think most marriages fail because there's no purpose or direction, I want mine to be with the intent that we serve God and can do it better together than apart.
 
Yeah I literally told this to the woman I'm talking toand almost scared her away, I don't think she thought I would be any fun. And she's a Christian who goes to church. I phrased it something like that I think most marriages fail because there's no purpose or direction, I want mine to be with the intent that we serve God and can do it better together than apart.

That is a remarkably astute observation in my experience.

Any marriage will have a few rough spots. And inevitably there's always the "Did I really make the best choice?" thing that will pop in your head even if there's no rational reason or current frustration to trigger it.

Purpose stops random thoughts or moods from turning into something bigger.
 
That is a remarkably astute observation in my experience.

Any marriage will have a few rough spots. And inevitably there's always the "Did I really make the best choice?" thing that will pop in your head even if there's no rational reason or current frustration to trigger it.

Purpose stops random thoughts or moods from turning into something bigger.

And looking back, I missed good opportunities with women who were purposeful with their relationships. My first girlfriend, in high school, said she wanted to get married right away because she saw how girls go off the rails if they don't. She was very intent to be a wife right after graduating and it drove me away. She is now I guess 37 and last I checked still married to the same guy she married at 18.
Now when I tell woman I'm only looking for marriage, I notice the same pulling away in other woman. It's like pursuing marriage with intent can come off as desperation. So I think both men and women are guilty of maybe devaluing a potential partner, thinking they must be too "easy" if they are adamant about only marriage. And that's just the institution of marriage - the big leap is stating the purpose of the marriage, to become closer to God or serve God, however we want to say it. It definitely has a way of separating the sheep from the goats.
 
Look at how this development is ''celebrated'' is pretty disgusting. Women being without a family and all the mental issues that will come with it, working away slave jobs as their lives decline in value and fade away. But there's money to be made on it! 45% is staggering though, that'll have huge, huge implications.

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Rise Of The SHEconomy Is Good News For These Retailers: Study​


With the U.S. population of prime-working-age single women growing, a study finds retailers from Nike and Lululemon to TJX and Sephora are poised to be among the biggest beneficiaries of this group’s appetite for spending.

By 2030, 45% of prime-working-age women between 25 and 44 in the U.S. will be single, the largest share in history, up from 41% in 2018, according to a 35-page study titled “Rise of the SHEconomy” by investment bank Morgan Stanley. 
In total, the single-women population will grow by an average annual rate of 1.2% through 2030, to 77.5 million, compared with a 0.8% growth rate for the overall U.S. population.

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OK, let's do the divorce math on this, gentlemen...

"I don't have to stay married to him for long, I can get divorced from him in 20 years, it doesn't matter, but if you introduce to me a man that I walk down the aisle and get married to, I will give you $5,000."

She said she's even willing to live separately from him, so long as his name is on the marriage certificate.

 
Now when I tell woman I'm only looking for marriage, I notice the same pulling away in other woman. It's like pursuing marriage with intent can come off as desperation.
Everything has become a parody of itself. Man sought out a woman to help him and have companionship and to bear his offspring, something every woman wanted, and now you are "too needy" for desiring fundamental things for your life. Muslims haven't stooped this low yet. I knew somebody from central Asia, a Muslim country, and having relationships was common but sex was off the table, it was a rare exception when fornication did happen and it is looked down upon.
 
OK, let's do the divorce math on this, gentlemen...

"I don't have to stay married to him for long, I can get divorced from him in 20 years, it doesn't matter, but if you introduce to me a man that I walk down the aisle and get married to, I will give you $5,000."

She said she's even willing to live separately from him, so long as his name is on the marriage certificate.

What's in it for the man? :laughter:
 
OK, let's do the divorce math on this, gentlemen...

"I don't have to stay married to him for long, I can get divorced from him in 20 years, it doesn't matter, but if you introduce to me a man that I walk down the aisle and get married to, I will give you $5,000."

She said she's even willing to live separately from him, so long as his name is on the marriage certificate.


If she's so intent on finding a husband, why is she going to divorce him in 20 years?

And what woman would set up their male friend with her when she's already hinted at divorcing him down the road?
 
Better Bachelor did a good video on her recently. She does not look good without makeup, to say the least.
 
Another observation from my online dating journey (I am mostly on a Christian site now and the women seem devout) is that there are a lot of women in their early 40s who want children. A typical case would be a woman who is 40 and states that she wants two children. We all know that is unlikely to happen (my ex-wife did have one child at 41). Is this a case of their being unwilling to accept reality or do they really believe this is possible?
 
I think you make some good points here. I would personally be open to a good quality single mother. These women do exist. I would want to know why the marriage broke down and also be sure the father of the children did not want to get back together with the mother.

On a constructive note, I don't know if anyone has tried a site called Christian Cafe? A colleague met his Romanian wife through the site and recommended it. There is an option to specify your denomination and women from all over the world are on the site. The majority seem quite devout in whatever denomination they are part of.

My intention is not to woman bash or complain. I am looking for wisdom and experience from the guys here.
I signed up for Christian Cafe (unpaid) just to see who is on there. When I filter for Orthodox women ONLY, and in the reasonable age brackets for my age, there are literally only 32 women listed, worldwide. Non-Orthodox is an absolute no-go for me. Of those 32 women, only 16 have photos, and of those only 3 are attractive enough for me to consider. I don't want to nit-pick, but Christian Cafe is clearly not a good resource for single Orthodox men.
 
I signed up for Christian Cafe (unpaid) just to see who is on there. When I filter for Orthodox women ONLY, and in the reasonable age brackets for my age, there are literally only 32 women listed, worldwide. Non-Orthodox is an absolute no-go for me. Of those 32 women, only 16 have photos, and of those only 3 are attractive enough for me to consider. I don't want to nit-pick, but Christian Cafe is clearly not a good resource for single Orthodox men.
That has been my experience on all dating apps (a very small pool who meet my requirements and are interested). I think there are very few white, devout Christian women of a suitable age (of any denomination). On secular apps you can select religion but for most people it is like selecting their height. There is no indication they really believe and practice anything.

You would possibly do better on an Eastern European focused dating site but would need to determine if potential matches are cultural or practicing Orthodox women.

Christian Cafe is quite cheap (in comparison to other apps). What I dislike is that you can't screen (who can see your profile) for ethnicity and age. I get endless messages from women in Africa and older women (usually Filipino and Latin American) who are in their mid-40s or older.
 
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