The destruction of modern day women

JCSteel said:
I don't want to minimize how much harder it is to be a man in today's culture, and ignore some of the relevant issues addressed in the video, but ultimately I'd argue that men fail in life because they are depressed or they suffer some kind of inner paralysis- it's a spiritual problem on an individual level. I speak from my own experience. There have always been prodigal sons, but now it is becoming an epidemic.
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You say something important on prodigal sons.

I relate personally as well.

Unless we find the Father we become very very depressed as time progresses.

This is logical. Women will never be able to fill that hole, or our parents, or friends, we need the Father.

We live the lives of "puer aeternus" . Eternal boys. Cars. Women. Lust. Greed.

Unless our heart changes I think we are doomed.

We need to come to the father. To progress. To become the son close to the father. And maybe later become a father ourselves.

Most boomers have superficial empty lives. It wasn't much better.

I believe the key to the crisis in women is in us men.

And yes most are lost boys, and that harms women. Eve needs Adam to guide her. If men don't take responsibility the snake can roam freely.
 
Blade Runner said:
But no one wants to admit that there is a huge price to pay for this, which is both "economy tanks" and "young men without hope or future" use their energy to destroy the existing system. What if alt hist talks about how ridiculous it is that the older generation doesn't see this, since very soon the likelihood is that they'll get slaughtered by this thing they created, yet are so blind to see or admit. What's worse, they blame the young men. Man, talk about black pill...
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Move to Areas where Christ is valued. Maybe an Amish community, Utah or a red state in the Rockies.

This sounds black pill but most people in Liberal societies are not worth saving.

The ROLE of some these woman is to fornicate with multiple men & not get married & turn into cat lady in her 30s. It is the path they chose for themselves. They dug the hole it's up to them to climb out.

Yes this is depressing for good men. Knowing that you are unlikely to marry a Virgin or that you will be turned down so she can fornicate with multiple others. However we men are still in a better position as we can escape the sinful life. The women who are reaping the rewards of modern femism & hypergamy are only drowning themselves with even more sin. Men are definitley more aware of the coming societal collapse & therefore in a better position to reap rewards & mitigate circumstances in the future on an individual level than modern woman ever will be.

Christ pilled men play the long game. Modern liberal women (& men) play for the short term.

But it is what it is. Know that you can always escape. Find a stable woman in more traditional god fearing lands. One of the Things that these manosphere youtube guru's ignore is that the answer to this is to move back to what works:

A male dominated society where the Parents of male & female are involved in the match making process.
 
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Mr Freedom said:
One of the Things that these manosphere youtube guru's ignore is that the answer to this is to move back to what works:

A male dominated society where the Parents of male & female are involved in the match making process.
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That is something that always puzzled me. You can't tell me that all of these liberals (men or women) never watched an old movie or show back from the 1950s, 1960s, or even into the 1970s (it gets iffy after that). Don't they realize that the fabric of the society we took for granted only a few decades ago has almost completely disappeared? I mean the differences are so glaring that they are near to impossible to ignore. I get decades of brainwashing, peer pressure, social media, mainstream media control, censoring, etc. But this is one of the things that I simply can't wrap my mind around. When I watch for example a movie like 'To Kill A Mockingbird' all I can think of is how much better society functioned back then. I chose that one intentionally as it shows that society wasn't perfect by any means, but that people strove for making their nation and their future a better one. Today all we see is destruction, degradation, and demoralization. HOW can anyone accept this as the 'new normal'?
 
holgerdanske said:
That is something that always puzzled me. You can't tell me that all of these liberals (men or women) never watched an old movie or show back from the 1950s, 1960s, or even into the 1970s (it gets iffy after that). Don't they realize that the fabric of the society we took for granted only a few decades ago has almost completely disappeared? I mean the differences are so glaring that they are near to impossible to ignore. I get decades of brainwashing, peer pressure, social media, mainstream media control, censoring, etc. But this is one of the things that I simply can't wrap my mind around. When I watch for example a movie like 'To Kill A Mockingbird' all I can think of is how much better society functioned back then. I chose that one intentionally as it shows that society wasn't perfect by any means, but that people strove for making their nation and their future a better one. Today all we see is destruction, degradation, and demoralization. HOW can anyone accept this as the 'new normal'?
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Those who remember "how things were" are too old to do anything about it/don't care (boomers, gen X) and those of age to change things (millenials, gen z) don't really know what was lost. That is my feeling.
 
Enoch said:
Those who remember "how things were" are too old to do anything about it/don't care (boomers, gen X) and those of age to change things (millenials, gen z) don't really know what was lost. That is my feeling.
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I don't disagree, but my teenage daughter likes watching older movies from the 80s because things just looked better to her then.

Do we need to get people to start watching movies from the 60s and the 50s? Will classic cinema be considered White supremacy? It'd be interesting to have a liberal zoomer rationalize the changes since then as being better.
 
Enoch said:
Those who remember "how things were" are too old to do anything about it/don't care (boomers, gen X) and those of age to change things (millenials, gen z) don't really know what was lost. That is my feeling.
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Yeah this is a great point. If you're born in the early 90s, you're the last generation that has a window into the real - pre war - past. Real traditionalism, lifelong marriages, religion, how these people lived, seen through your grandparents. But once the boomers are your grandparents, then you don't have a window into that past. All you have then is the fake lying incriminating narrative about oppression and all that garbage poison that's seen in society - but you'll never see a truly, 60 year married couple who live in peace, harmony and love with one another in real time in your entire lifetime. And that'll be the case from now on unto perpetuity in the West, for these times will never come back.

I feel like having seen said relationship and actually having known grandparents who were born pre-war, that's a massive influence on how you view the past. Without that, I can imagine it's tremendously easy to fall into the gap of nihilism, boomerism, and all around stupidity and retardation once the furthest down the line example that you have as grandparents are the boomers - you'll literally be spoonfed with the lies from then that they believed, without having seriously undergone the consequences of it (the grunt is being borne now by the younger generations/internet/smartphone/total ''liberation'' aka enslavement to the passions). That's something I really don't like about the boomers though: the changes that they fell for, they still think that it was ''good'' to a degree because they literally don't see the battlefield it has created down the line for our generations. They live in their cosy homes with their Beatles CD's on the wall murmering about how good the 60s were, and typically they've kinda stopped living afterwards and kept hanging in that idealistic time.
 
fokm said:
I don't disagree, but my teenage daughter likes watching older movies from the 80s because things just looked better to her then.

Do we need to get people to start watching movies from the 60s and the 50s? Will classic cinema be considered White supremacy? It'd be interesting to have a liberal zoomer rationalize the changes since then as being better.
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Of course it would be. The wholesale editing and censoring of many beloved classic movies, series, books, and other content has already begun. To cherish and worship our past squarely puts you into the camp of political or cultural dissidents.

I don’t think most people realize how bad things are going to get.
 
Viktor Zeegelaar said:
Yeah this is a great point. If you're born in the early 90s, you're the last generation that has a window into the real - pre ). That's something I really don't like about the boomers though: the changes that they fell for, they still think that it was ''good'' to a degree because they literally don't see the battlefield it has created down the line for our generations. They live in their cosy homes with their Beatles CD's on the wall murmering about how good the 60s were, and typically they've kinda stopped living afterwards and kept hanging in that idealistic time.
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The boomers as a whole became so enthralled with tearing down all cultural barriers and limits that they never stopped to ask if it was a good idea or if there maybe were detrimental long-term consequences
 
Enoch said:
Those who remember "how things were" are too old to do anything about it/don't care (boomers, gen X) and those of age to change things (millenials, gen z) don't really know what was lost. That is my feeling.
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This is true, but the latter isn't entirely. There's a transitional period of us that tell them what they know is wrong with the matrix, and they understand. The problem is that they control no portion of the influence or wealth, and are thus trapped. It's a generational war with the older people knowing the world is messed up but not caring, though they claim to care about their kids. They don't at all, when it comes down to it. They care about convenience and placating their wives. It's sad that that is structurally a threat to them as well, the ability to lose it all if a woman turns on you.
 
Maddox said:
Love this guy's channel. He makes some good points here on dealing with women's disrespect.

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100% Co-sign. Thanks for introducing us earlier:

https://www.rooshvforum.com/threads/have-any-of-you-given-up-on-women.39149/post-1681625

^ BTW... that is from yet another thread that is negatively worded to the effect of "click here to complain endlessly without hope, humour or solutions" as @Wutang noted here:


Now, I do have to acknowledge the difficulty of discussing practical, individual solutions here because almost all reports of dating involve something that is secular and non-Orthodox, which means the thread will potentially get closed.

That said, beyond sharing our own experiences and insights, we can still balance the problem/solution dynamic of discussion points with some resources that offer knowledge or insights that support forward-moving actions.

As part of that, here are a few of many vids from his excellent channel that I can recommend for consideration:





 
fokm said:
I don't disagree, but my teenage daughter likes watching older movies from the 80s because things just looked better to her then.

Do we need to get people to start watching movies from the 60s and the 50s? Will classic cinema be considered White supremacy? It'd be interesting to have a liberal zoomer rationalize the changes since then as being better.
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There's a genre of YouTube videos where old real-life street scenes that were filmed in black and white from the 1890s to the 1950s have been colorised with appropriate sound re-created. It's really fascinating, and dispels a lot of myths. I saw one from inside a department store in the 1940s, and I thought it was a Hollywood production because all the men were wearing suits and looked fit and lean, while the women wore hats, knee-length dresses with stockings, and looked super glamorous. I realised that when you watch an old movie, that's actually HOW IT WAS.
Anyway the comment section to these videos always has someone saying "yes but if you were black, it sucked, and the women were being abused in private." That's how they cope.
 
Eusebius said:
Anyway the comment section to these videos always has someone saying "yes but if you were black, it sucked, and the women were being abused in private." That's how they cope.
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These same people think "if you were black, it sucks" for blacks in the US today.

I would also argue that girls going to OnlyFans are being abused too. The difference today is the girls are being told they are being empowered.
 
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