The destruction of modern day women

My worst experience with women is women who are desperate, after the age of 40.

I get it why women don't want to make moves and escalate. It's not natural, but we are not living in natural or good times. Just like a man is likely going to have to adjusted his sights down from a pure virgin; women are going to have to adapt to try and make things work in these times. They have wide selection and they need to make use of that. Find a man who is serious and show interest.

But in my experience, women generally only do this once it's too late, once they are very late or past fertility. It's very sad to see these women making themselves very available, dishing out compliments, with it likely only to attract predators and low level cucks.

This is a worse experience, because it's so sad - a hallmark of the times. And I wouldn't be surprised if even this passed in to more like 40 year old childless women not really caring. There's two other things I've experienced that I really don't like - women asking for money and women committing a bad act and just expecting you to ignore it. They just want to shut it down, carry on without it being ignored, as if nothing happened.
 
My worst experience with women is women who are desperate, after the age of 40.

I get it why women don't want to make moves and escalate. It's not natural, but we are not living in natural or good times. Just like a man is likely going to have to adjusted his sights down from a pure virgin; women are going to have to adapt to try and make things work in these times. They have wide selection and they need to make use of that. Find a man who is serious and show interest.

But in my experience, women generally only do this once it's too late, once they are very late or past fertility. It's very sad to see these women making themselves very available, dishing out compliments, with it likely only to attract predators and low level cucks.

This is a worse experience, because it's so sad - a hallmark of the times. And I wouldn't be surprised if even this passed in to more like 40 year old childless women not really caring. There's two other things I've experienced that I really don't like - women asking for money and women committing a bad act and just expecting you to ignore it. They just want to shut it down, carry on without it being ignored, as if nothing happened.
You are right. I don't know how sincere these women are, once they hit 40, or if it's just hormones making their lips flap and behavior more attentive. These same women ignored 90% of men for the previous 20 years, but now we're supposed to believe they are suddenly truly interested...when their beauty and fertility is past the curve? To be honest, I find it insulting that we're supposed to believe them now and take them seriously. And I am trying not to be cynical about this, but this is what is seems like to me.
 
My worst experience with women is women who are desperate, after the age of 40.

I get it why women don't want to make moves and escalate. It's not natural, but we are not living in natural or good times. Just like a man is likely going to have to adjusted his sights down from a pure virgin; women are going to have to adapt to try and make things work in these times. They have wide selection and they need to make use of that. Find a man who is serious and show interest.

But in my experience, women generally only do this once it's too late, once they are very late or past fertility. It's very sad to see these women making themselves very available, dishing out compliments, with it likely only to attract predators and low level cucks.

This is a worse experience, because it's so sad - a hallmark of the times. And I wouldn't be surprised if even this passed in to more like 40 year old childless women not really caring. There's two other things I've experienced that I really don't like - women asking for money and women committing a bad act and just expecting you to ignore it. They just want to shut it down, carry on without it being ignored, as if nothing happened.
Could you elaborate a bit with examples? I have heard this before, e.g. with women 35+ at dating apps hunting for a sperm donor for their baby, almost opening with are you serious and you wanna have children, for they obviously have no time to lose now. Allegedly 40 year old women also approach themselves sometimes, for they don't get approached as much anymore, which is an interesting dynamic.

A 40 year old woman effectively is the equivalent of a homeless dude. Doesn't offer any value for the opposite gender, with the nuance that if you already have children with the woman it's different and also overall a woman can provide some basic support and feminine influence after that age.

You are right. I don't know how sincere these women are, once they hit 40, or if it's just hormones making their lips flap and behavior more attentive. These same women ignored 90% of men for the previous 20 years, but now we're supposed to believe they are suddenly truly interested...when their beauty and fertility is past the curve? To be honest, I find it insulting that we're supposed to believe them now and take them seriously. And I am trying not to be cynical about this, but this is what is seems like to me.
Yeah they spot the gap too late - you can only delude yourself until that wall incoming is crystal clear and that moment will come. But it's also difficult for women since many guys aren't really interested into committing as well - at least the more attractive guys, the army of nice guys yeah they wanna commit but especially after having surfed the waves it's just not interesting anymore for a woman to settle down with. And nice guy hear not meaning a good decent provider male, but a 40 year old boy who's mediocre or below that in every aspect of his life. After you've eaten Michelin your entire life you just can't be satisfied with McDonalds for the coming 50 years which is a big trap, since the alternative is being single till perpetuity increasingly.

With regards to your last point it is extremely disrespectful and only thinking from a solipsistic childish me me me I want what I want and don't care about the others perspective. But get in their position; if you've got job offers on Linkedin dozens a day for 15 years of whom you ignored the most and even felt annoyed by many of them for the lack of salary, value and work environment they provided, now they going to getting only sparse job offers, maybe a few mediocre offers per week, and if they want something better they even have to approach the employer themselves. It's a total gameplan shift. If I'd be bombarded with job offers all the time of recruiters who spam me with the same message and low value job I'd ignore them too and even feel annoyed by them, only picking out the best offers.

But indeed in the end a woman at 40 now offering herself as the prize is the same as an 18 year old guy offering himself as the price: while in fact the 18 year old guy has nothing to offer as he hasn't build anything and has no experience/knowledge about how the world worked, while the woman doesn't offer her beauty/fertility. Then expecting to make a full price sale is insulting for the customer indeed, but once again through said dynamic above I do understand their psychology and that they're just in such an abundance position for choice for a long time that their psychology gets warped. But yeah a ''product'' like that, you gotta sell it for 10% of the initial price to get a customer, but they expect to sell it for 100% as they're used to that, but that ain't gonna work.

Lasty, the idea of egg freezing comes into play typically with women +35. But the quality of eggs is so low then that is doesn't work in like 70-80% of the cases later in life. Moreover, if you're a woman and you're 45 and get a kid, that's not natural either. Women lose their beauty and fertility cause they are meant to have children 18-25, it's literally as simple as that. If beauty/fertility was until perpetuity, then the woman could get a child at 70 and die a year later. On a normal timescale, it's just better for the survival of the kids that there's a mother around who is young cause she'll overall typically will just live longer than when she's older. But the reality about that biological timeframe has been removed entirely, leading to panic situations as @Cynllo described.
 
Allegedly 40 year old women also approach themselves sometimes, for they don't get approached as much anymore, which is an interesting dynamic.

Yes. I'd imagine that's it. Once attention has dried up, some will panic and start mining. The issue is women are pretty much always going to shoot above their weight in their targets. I think men are at worst realistic and at best, shooting down. Exceptions to that. The guys I know who are looking for something like a traditional marriage are all happy to take a hit on what men are hard-wired to b addicted to - beauty. Women, by and large, aren't able to do this. And if they can't they're not really a woman, but edging towards the dye kingdom. Women know how to be hypergemous for themselves. But it magically disappears when they are setting up other women with guys. They are likely to recommend any guy in their orbit to any girl in their orbit. But ask if they'd be with that guy, "He's not my type."

Example - a woman, 41. She might have been attractive when she was younger, but she looks fairly average now. She asks me what I am looking for, and in short I say "traditional family". She begins gushing and says it's what she's looking for. I feel insulted, given she is infertile, less attractive than me, and seems a bit wobbly (mentally). Get the urge to say something mean, but just say it's largely impossible to have children after 40 and I want at least 4. She asks, what about if the woman already has one. Says she has a 15 year old child. Again, I feel insulted and this time say that it's an embarrassment to raise other men's children. It doesn't register with her. She goes on about how some celeb in her country had a child at 55 and how it's possible that some women with the right genetic history etc. can have them in the window, 40-45. I say from my exposure to this topic in my work I know that IVF only works in about 5% of cases for women 40-45. To make it worse, it's not like she probably really interested in me. It's likely a routine she has, which is she just plays out for any guy that is really several point above her level, given she is infertile, average looking, single mother. Spray and pray.

I can imagine this dynamic happening on dating apps and some blue pill guy falling for it.

I know one woman, who at the age of 37, must have panicked and just picked a guy to have a child with, with him having no obligation to raise it. I believe he was above her station. Now she has little reason for the lower quality men to even be by her side. Sad thing is there would plenty of men willing to play the role of father.

for they obviously have no time to lose now

I don't think many people know what the fertility window is.
 
A 40 year old woman effectively is the equivalent of a homeless dude.
I busted up, because it's closer to true than false.
many guys aren't really interested into committing as well - at least the more attractive guys
Yes, if guys who are above average have little to no interest in commitment with these, how much more are the attractive ones going to pssh them. It's still amazing to me to think that women can't discern that a guy who is 2-3 points higher than her is going to stick around for the long term.
But the reality about that biological timeframe has been removed entirely
It's worse than what anyone thinks.
Women know how to be hypergemous for themselves. But it magically disappears when they are setting up other women with guys.
The funniest/sickest joke of all. Meet my friend who has all these characteristics men have, and the least of them (youth and beauty) because she took the male track of career-ism!
I don't think many people know what the fertility window is.
The studies on this knowledge were even worse than what I thought for medical residents (some were even OB GYN!) - the propaganda combined with estrogen is new levels of fantasy. When you realize back in the day the age of marriage was 16 or so in most US states and probably similar in a lot of countries (not that long ago, forget 2000 years ago it was like 14), you'll understand at a minimum that it's that way because of biology. What does this mean? The true window is 16-26. It's funny when you realize that at the very best in this modern clown world, no one gets a sniff (mostly) on women for family formation until 26+ :laughter:
 
Yes. I'd imagine that's it. Once attention has dried up, some will panic and start mining. The issue is women are pretty much always going to shoot above their weight in their targets. I think men are at worst realistic and at best, shooting down. Exceptions to that. The guys I know who are looking for something like a traditional marriage are all happy to take a hit on what men are hard-wired to b addicted to - beauty. Women, by and large, aren't able to do this. And if they can't they're not really a woman, but edging towards the dye kingdom. Women know how to be hypergemous for themselves. But it magically disappears when they are setting up other women with guys. They are likely to recommend any guy in their orbit to any girl in their orbit. But ask if they'd be with that guy, "He's not my type."
The core point is lack of foresight: they simply live in the moment, spontaneous the party seems to never end and not thinking about the future and preparing for it at all. I think this is a common mindset nowadays for both girls and boys though, I personally didn't look ahead a bit as well in my teens and early 20s and was punished greatly for it in my mid-later 20s. But as a man you've got time to figure it out and turn the ship around, for a woman it's way more panicky.

Second point is so funny to watch in one of these panel shows that have been popping up a lot on Youtube lately. They'll stimulate all the things in men they're not attracted to - then to say oh but yeah I'm not attracted to that, but you'll find someone! I've come to realize that a woman's words just absolutely don't mean anything, the actions is all one should focus on. I think it's overall just coming from a mindset of not getting in conflict, just saying nice nice nice hi hi hi ha ha ha and going along with the flow not even realizing what they're saying or the impact of it. Next time you hear a convo between two women listen closely and how without any analysis of what's being said the other party will just say ''yes! oh nice! haha yes nice!'' like I'm listening to it and are like you LITERALLY don't listen to what's being said :laughter: Guess the men go for content in information and women for context is extremely spot on.
Example - a woman, 41. She might have been attractive when she was younger, but she looks fairly average now. She asks me what I am looking for, and in short I say "traditional family". She begins gushing and says it's what she's looking for. I feel insulted, given she is infertile, less attractive than me, and seems a bit wobbly (mentally). Get the urge to say something mean, but just say it's largely impossible to have children after 40 and I want at least 4. She asks, what about if the woman already has one. Says she has a 15 year old child. Again, I feel insulted and this time say that it's an embarrassment to raise other men's children. It doesn't register with her. She goes on about how some celeb in her country had a child at 55 and how it's possible that some women with the right genetic history etc. can have them in the window, 40-45. I say from my exposure to this topic in my work I know that IVF only works in about 5% of cases for women 40-45. To make it worse, it's not like she probably really interested in me. It's likely a routine she has, which is she just plays out for any guy that is really several point above her level, given she is infertile, average looking, single mother. Spray and pray.
Ai this is a bad one. I feel the shivers going through my body when I see another man raising the child - there's just something at a deep biological level that revolts against it. Unless it's a brother or uncle or so in a situation that the man may pass away or so - that's completely different and would've been the norm in the olden days. Imagine being a modern man and being so desperate for intimacy that you take on the responsibility of dealing with a Western woman and the child of someone else - that's a sad reality man. Makes me really, really sad. That's such a lopsided deal it just screams unfairness.
I can imagine this dynamic happening on dating apps and some blue pill guy falling for it.

I know one woman, who at the age of 37, must have panicked and just picked a guy to have a child with, with him having no obligation to raise it. I believe he was above her station. Now she has little reason for the lower quality men to even be by her side. Sad thing is there would plenty of men willing to play the role of father.

I don't think many people know what the fertility window is.
I kinda increasingly get the impression this is becoming more and more of a norm. With the 80% divorce rate it's not uncommon to hear women talk at 40 saying ''Oh yeah I had the marriage and the ceremony, and the child, I've done all that, I've divorced him now, not really interested in a man anymore, we'll see what comes''. It's for a reason many marriages strand after 7 years - exactly the time that a child needs to grow up to not be completely vulnerable anymore. Also stats underline this: many women who come out of marriages just never get into serious relationships anymore, often because of choice (albeit they're more vulnerable on the market obviously given their situation). Which is understandable due to hypergamy that you mentioned, they just can't find the satisfying option, but is also weird for the need for security is so paramount to the female existence. I live by myself and I'm super comfy with it - but I can't really see that scenario for a woman unless she has a very active social life and is busy. It's no coincidence it's mostly women who take pets - they just need social things around them.
The true window is 16-26. It's funny when you realize that at the very best in this modern clown world, no one gets a sniff (mostly) on women for family formation until 26+ :laughter:
In some places in Eastern Asia it's even worse than the West - in South Korea 10% of women below 30 have children due to the extreme work culture and competitive society, which in essence is the same as the West in regards of nihilism and perhaps even worse. Overall the child rate is 0.8 there - with 2.1 needed to remain status quo.

Very interesting with regards to the age of marriage though - it's a bit of a slippery topic but the 18 legal norm is very subjective nowadays. In the past, Roman empire, Chinese empire whatever, everywhere it wouldn't be uncommon at all for girls to be married at 13-14, with like 20 being kinda old already.
 




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I told a friend the other day that it's a population level predisposition of sh-t testing that is "worldly" or sociobiological underpinning of all of this. Do you agree? My feeling is that it's a strange hyper-selection that Europeans have, and seemingly will always have, because of their inherit traits.
 


"I'm 29 and single and I don't have kids yet...I didn't rise from my bed until 10:15...I went to Beyonce last night and I didn't get home until 1:00am and I danced and drank my little heart out...I woke up a tad hungover this morning...I was just scrolling on my phone and I saw a picture of shakshuka...make shakshuka...make shakshuka...the effortlessness and ease of my life just kind of focusing on myself and the shakshuka I wanna make..."

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"I'm 29 and single and I don't have kids yet...I didn't rise from my bed until 10:15...I went to Beyonce last night and I didn't get home until 1:00am and I danced and drank my little heart out...I woke up a tad hungover this morning...I was just scrolling on my phone and I saw a picture of shakshuka...make shakshuka...make shakshuka...the effortlessness and ease of my life just kind of focusing on myself and the shakshuka I wanna make..."
My grandaunt was childless. I know this because it's the first thing my father said about her, almost with disgust. I can only speculate but it was a big deal for her and by extension the family. The couple times I saw her I would try to look to get a read on her and she would look so sad and uncomfortable. She kept her distance from me too. She ended up leaning heavily on my grandmother, who basically kept her company as her only friend into her death. I think she was still prospecting for a husband although my memory is fuzzy. I don't know what she did to deserve such a fate but the result ended up looking absolutely tragic from my childhood perspective.

This is why it's so important to be aware of your own mortality. I honestly think its a good thing to think about death. Especially with Christianity helping you process it. We should avoid irreparable mistakes.
 
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Sophie Turner shows how awful modern western women can be:


I have not really been a fan of the Jonas's but I really feel for Joe. He clearly was not gonna let himself be a Cuck like Will Smith so filed for Divorce.

I just pray that he can get control of the daughters.
 


"I'm 29 and single and I don't have kids yet...I didn't rise from my bed until 10:15...I went to Beyonce last night and I didn't get home until 1:00am and I danced and drank my little heart out...I woke up a tad hungover this morning...I was just scrolling on my phone and I saw a picture of shakshuka...make shakshuka...make shakshuka...the effortlessness and ease of my life just kind of focusing on myself and the shakshuka I wanna make..."

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She still looks decent (hence the glee about her situation) but she wont be singing from the same tune when she is childless in her 30s & 40s

These tiktok shorts of liberal woman almost act as a document showing the progressive destruction of society in the 21st century.
 
She still looks decent (hence the glee about her situation) but she wont be singing from the same tune when she is childless in her 30s & 40s

These tiktok shorts of liberal woman almost act as a document showing the progressive destruction of society in the 21st century.

Social media is destroying childless women today, especially millennials and younger generations. It seems tailored to bring out the worst of toxic, female narcissism.
 
Social media is destroying childless women today, especially millennials and younger generations. It seems tailored to bring out the worst of toxic, female narcissism.

I honestly beleive it was designed to be an indoctrination & coping mechanism for the worst kind of woman

Ya can't tell your parents that you had a one night stand after a concert but do it on Instagram or TikTok & income the hundreds of likes from blue pill simps & feminists to give you that dopamine rush to make you feel extra happy about it.
 
I get what you're saying. However, if a woman is very hesitant to talk to men it could be a sign of brainwashing (men are bad). And some cultures are naturally very outgoing, so if a woman is confident it might not be a bad sign. In fact it could be a sign that she's well adjusted.

But I do get what you're saying and it's true, it's just that it may not always apply.

I think you mis interpreted his point

Generally a sign of a chaste woman is that she is not entirely comftorable with a man approaching her for social shame reasons.

However that miscomfort does not manifest itself in loud F bombs, cursing & even assault like by feminists but by speaking in a queit almost very shy like manner

Two biggest red flags in a woman is one who speaks loudly & confidently in front of others (especially men) & one who is extremley rude.
 
The destruction of modern day woman should be one of modern day man's deepest shames.

Billions of children will never be born because our women are being tricked out of having children.

Not to mention the tragic second half of these husbandless, childless women's lives.
 
Unsurprisingly, feminists/western women and MSM are attacking "Passport Bros".

Passport Bros: Feminists Are Outraged At Men Going Overseas To Find Traditional Wives​

If there is one defining characteristic of the average western feminist it is their propensity for turning their personal problems into everyone's problems. Meaning, they have a habit of projecting their insecurities and outrage on the rest of the world, weaponizing their own unhappiness and turning it into an activist movement. If they are miserable, other people are not allowed to feel content; that would be unfair.

It is for this reason that modern feminism is often accused of being an ideological cult for narcissists. Everything about it seems to be designed to elevate and appeal to the worst kinds of people. Not only that, but the belief system is now so pervasive in western countries, especially among the college educated, that 60% of women say they identify and agree with the “common definition” of feminism, even though the common definition does not match the behavior and motives of most feminists.

This percentage changes, of course, depending on the specific tenets related to feminism, but in most polls at least 30% of women in most western countries embrace the majority of third-wave feminist concepts. The number of feminists also spiked dramatically between 2013-2018 (though this momentum has stalled in recent years). The point being, if you are a western man seeking to avoid feminist insanity and find a woman with traditional values your task is becoming incredibly difficult in your home country.

Enter the “Passport Bros”, a movement of men in the west (primarily American men) traveling outside their countries to find wives in foreign places known for more traditional women that defy feminist taboos. The movement has gained exponential traction and attention in the past year as most countries are finally lifting covid restrictions, allowing more men to travel.

Breaking from the notion of “mail order brides” which has existed for decades, Passport Bros are going overseas with the intention of marrying outside the US as a way to avoid crushing divorce laws. The strategy also makes them less likely to be exploited by foreign women only looking for access to US citizenship. It is this key difference which has feminists in the west outraged.

While the mail order bride concept has been criticized by feminism in the past as being “exploitative,” feminists often joke that foreigners are “only using American men” to get green cards and then divorce them to take half of their wealth. In other words, they find it amusing for men to look for love on the other side of the world only to be treated by foreign women the same way they are treated by American women. But the PB movement avoids this dynamic, which is making feminists angrier than ever.

Their reaction is rather revealing. The above is just a sampling of the salt that has been directed at Passport Bros in the past several months. Mainstream platforms are beginning to pick up on the trend and woke journalists are equally incensed. Clearly, the concept has hit a nerve, otherwise they would not go through the trouble of attacking it in the first place. But the core question is – Why do they care?

Perhaps, because the gender power dynamic that feminists are so obsessed with is shifting in favor of men (at least in their minds), therefore, Passport Bros are an unacceptable development that needs to be shamed and squashed before they lose control. Attacks are often directed at foreign women, who feminists describe as uneducated, poor, ignorant and desperate.

This is projection, considering many of the women marrying Passport Bros speak multiple languages and have college degrees in useful career fields. The arrogance of this thinking aside, the suggestion insinuates that the men leaving for happier shores are not good enough to date in the US, that they are “afraid of strong independent women” or that they are predatory. Once again we have to ask, why are feminists so angry about these men looking elsewhere?

Another go-to attack is to dismiss PB culture as nothing more than “sex tourism” or “sex trafficking.” But the purpose of the movement is specifically to find a marriage partner with similar political, social and religious values. If Passport Bros simply wanted prostitutes they would stay in the US where feminists are prevalent. Because these women do not embrace feminist values, feminists see them as automatically inferior and “in need of saving.”

There is certainly something to be said for the strategy of non-participation; walking away from a game you can't win and making your own rules is a powerful tool for defeating oppressive socialist movements that demand increasing public compliance in order to survive. The reason why US men would leave the country to avoid women influenced by feminism is not a mystery.

While most women are mercenary by their biological nature (hypergamy), American women tend to be the most expensive. Studies show that the majority of women around the world prefer a man with a larger annual income, but the magic number for a man to be desirable in the US is in the six figure range, preferably 200K and above, which is in the top 5% of earners. However, the median income for men in the US is around $60,000.

Add in expectations of physical attributes (height above 6ft and physically fit) and the pool of single men that western women desire plummets to around 1% or less. The mental disconnect between what women think men should earn vs the national average is delusional. They have limited their options down to finite group of potential partners while never asking themselves what they bring to the table in return? This is where the immutable rules of supply and demand kick in.

Keep in mind that these expectations are not only reserved for high income women; most American women regardless of background seek out this 1% of men, and all of them believe that they are capable of catching these men even when competing with younger and far more attractive peers. The female fantasy of trapping “Mr. Big” and living a life of luxury and ease while also remaining “strong, independent and sexually liberated” is a specifically western feminist trope. And though it seems to run contrary to the feminist ideal, it makes sense from their point of view.

Feminism treats men as oppressors, but ironically it also treats them as a utility to be used. Why not shame men into being submissive and acting as breadwinners if possible? This double standard is causing American men in the middle of the financial spectrum to leave and look elsewhere.

Beyond the money issue is the problem of feminist indoctrination. The primary goal among feminists? It's not happiness, it's power. While presented as a crusade for equality, there are already equal rights for women in the west. So, feminism has instead become a license for destructive behaviors including childishness, lack of self awareness, inflated ego and the view that being diplomatic in a relationship is a weakness. At the same time they see aggression as a sign of “strength and independence.” A belief system of self absorbed vanity removing the key component of femininity that men look for (nurturing) makes a successful marriage impossible.

The promiscuity and lack of personal responsibility promoted by feminism also plays a major role in the fading marriage prospects of women in the US. Studies show that women with extensive sexual histories and more sexual partners tend to have less happy marriages once they settle down.

It should be noted that some feminists in the US are attempting to start their own “Passport Sis” movement, going overseas looking for marriage. They are failing miserably, discovering that men in foreign countries put up with their combativeness far less than their American counterparts. There is also no parallel movement of foreign men flying to the US to seek out American women. Meaning, woke western women are considered the bottom of the barrel by men in their own countries and they are not sought after by foreign men either.

Instead of reflecting on their own flaws and ideals as the cause of this trend, feminists instead do what they always do – Try to sabotage the happiness of others and bottleneck all social discourse through their own narrow filter of the world. If you stay and court them, you are evil. If you walk away from them, you are evil. So, why not walk away?
 
A while back a friend sent me a video on Rich Cooper, which exposed him for what most of the "manosphere" guys are, which are grifters that move on from former online attempts at niche industries or click bait for views, to what actually gets clicks and views, which is dating/intersex dynamics/pua. His name was Looks Maximus and he did a takedown of Cooper that is quite clear and obvious, and actually explained why I always got a bad vibe from RC. @Optimus Senior @Viktor Zeegelaar

What further complicates the story is that recently this Looks Maximus guy resurfaced on a podcast or some weird dude's stream and said that he is going away from, or taking down, all content he formerly made because life in the modern west is better than it ever was. Interestingly, he flipped significantly from being a type of black pill guy with various and interesting takes that were cold and hard (I won't get into them, some were truthful about what guys do that could be considered equivalent to simping), to being someone who still has strange opinions but promotes "a more positive message". This happened after he reported he had come down with leukemia, and he's either late 30s or early 40s, so he's a young guy.

As a partial aside, one of the strange things he said proved that the modern life/west is better than any time to live was that you don't have to be forced into marriage and lifelong taking care of a woman and children (as if that's bad) or curtailed by social constraints, and you have far greater options (the others on the stream disputed this "unless you have money"). He even appealed to a "bachelor tax" by Roman Emperor Augustus back in the day, showing how it used to be worse in many ways and can be now, but isn't. I found that funny in that no one challenged the degree to which men are taxed and subsidize others (including other single moms they don't know, of course) currently, which is pretty obvious, just "hidden" from normies. In any case, I find it amazing what people come up with when they are stressed or in a life pinch, or under stressful situations - that's why I point this stuff out.

I've learned a lot over the years from even strange characters like this, who online seem to be entertaining and funny, but also who show you a lot about how human persons react to things in life, and what things like disease and sense of mortality/death can do to people. Don't forget these lessons, gentlemen.
 
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