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<blockquote data-quote="deerhunter" data-source="post: 933445" data-attributes="member: 5785">Good job on working with obedience. If the dog will be around small children I would be careful with shake. Dogs start to do it automatically and it leads to scratched faces. I always come down hard when people are teaching my dogs that one, simple trick that they learn in 10 minutes.I can't recommend a &quot;shock collar&quot; enough. Use properly and it is not a substitute for consistent obedience training . My dogs always get completely psyched when it comes out as that means a walk or a hunt. Leads to 100% recall on dog even when they are not wearing it. Even my ultra liberal sister who was horrified by the collar ended up getting one when she got a dog. Lets you have better, more immediate control off leash. Nothing more pathetic and dangerous than some one pleading and cajoling with their dog to come when called.&nbsp; &nbsp; One zap when my dogs are puppies and go after a moose and they ignore the things for life. That is a big safety deal here. Traffic, Horses, etc. I am sure there are things where you live.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="deerhunter, post: 933445, member: 5785"] Good job on working with obedience. If the dog will be around small children I would be careful with shake. Dogs start to do it automatically and it leads to scratched faces. I always come down hard when people are teaching my dogs that one, simple trick that they learn in 10 minutes. I can't recommend a "shock collar" enough. Use properly and it is not a substitute for consistent obedience training . My dogs always get completely psyched when it comes out as that means a walk or a hunt. Leads to 100% recall on dog even when they are not wearing it. Even my ultra liberal sister who was horrified by the collar ended up getting one when she got a dog. Lets you have better, more immediate control off leash. Nothing more pathetic and dangerous than some one pleading and cajoling with their dog to come when called. One zap when my dogs are puppies and go after a moose and they ignore the things for life. That is a big safety deal here. Traffic, Horses, etc. I am sure there are things where you live. [/QUOTE]

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