The Donald Trump thread

durangotang

Pelican
I just watched a Sean Hannity interview of Mark Cuban that was basically worthless except for this statement from Cuban:

“Donald Trump is more interested in running a campaign than a country.”

That pretty much sums it up. He wants to win and to be liked, and he thought he could do that with the economy alone. The rest was just details. Case in point: letting cities burn, white people get attacked, and monuments get torn down by the hundreds, but that’s all okay with Trump when he thinks it is good for his campaign. Then he has the Tulsa rally and nobody showed up. Now we see executive orders targeting H1B visas, tweets showing innocent whites getting attacked, and declarations that those who teardown statues will be prosecuted retroactively. What’s the fucking point now? Hundreds, if not thousands of statues are destroyed or removed from around the country. The statues are gone. The dead will not be resurrected. Those H1B visa holders already took American jobs, they did so before he was elected and throughout his whole term. It’s the same with immigration, token DACA gestures, or the token wall. We now have millions more illegals and Dreamers here than before Trump was elected. It’s the same with the justice department and Antifa or Black Lives Matter. Violent, revolutionary identity politics, that he validated in Black Lives Matters, is not going away and neither will Antifa until the FBI and DoJ target both. It’s the same with tech companies censoring, demonetizing, and shadow banning conservatives. He did nothing for his entire term as his base was systemically silenced - until a tweet of his own was censored during an election year.

Trump is like the guy who promises the world to his wife, then does nothing, or beats her, and only when she musters the courage to leave does he lift a finger. It’s not quite that black and white, it’s tough to find the right analogy because there are third parties involved, but it’s close enough. One day, when we have a real leader, we’ll look back on this time for what it was.
 
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8ball

Kingfisher
All the criticism here is correct regarding Trump not really into governing but more a campaigner, keep in mind the guy was a tv character for decades before president. Wether you disagree with his motivations or are no longer a fan, Trump did do his part in promoting a nationalist/populist movement to the mainstream. The movement now, which is more international than most people think, can and will outlive him.

Some old establishment Democrats lost to leftists, some neo-con type republicans(who were also endorsed by trump) lost to newcomers.

The next couple of years will see both bases shaken up, the left getting crazier and a new right forming.

Expect physical confrontations in congress, similar to the ones in urkraine or turkey.

If you still believe in the US and are not an accelerationist move abroad type then you should focus and get involved in the next election cycles. The more important elections will be the 2022 midterms as well as the 2023-24 republican primary. The Bill Kristol, david frum types are going to dedicate alot of resources into trying to "take back" the party however i think thats futile, too much has changed. Still these past years and especially these past few months proved how pathetic a "pro business/corporate conservative party" is and why its vital to fundamentally change the republican party into a proper right wing party that incorporates american cultural identity, western tradition and christianity into their "Conservatism" platform. These issues are what get them elected, not the 2% tax cut they get.

They need a strong reminder of that.
 

kamoz

Kingfisher
Gold Member
I just watched a Sean Hannity interview of Mark Cuban that was basically worthless except for this statement from Cuban:

“Donald Trump is more interested in running a campaign than a country.”

That pretty much sums it up. He wants to win and to be liked, and he thought he could do that with the economy alone. The rest was just details. Case in point: letting cities burn, white people get attacked, and monuments get torn down by the hundreds, but that’s all okay with Trump when he thinks it is good for his campaign. Then he has the Tulsa rally and nobody showed up. Now we see executive orders targeting H1B visas, tweets showing innocent whites getting attacked, and declarations that those who teardown statues will be prosecuted retroactively. What’s the fucking point now? Hundreds, if not thousands of statues are destroyed or removed from around the country. The statues are gone. The dead will not be resurrected. Those H1B visa holders already took American jobs, they did so before he was elected and throughout his whole term. It’s the same with immigration, token DACA gestures, or the token wall. We now have millions more illegals and Dreamers here than before Trump was elected. It’s the same with the justice department and Antifa or Black Lives Matter. Violent, revolutionary identity politics, that he validated in Black Lives Matters, is not going away and neither will Antifa until the FBI and DoJ target both. It’s the same with tech companies censoring, demonetizing, and shadow banning conservatives. He did nothing for his entire term as his base was systemically silenced - until a tweet of his own was censored during an election year.

Trump is like the guy who promises the world to his wife, then does nothing, or beats her, and only when she musters the courage to leave does he lift a finger. It’s not quite that black and white, it’s tough to find the right analogy because there are third parties involved, but it’s close enough. One day, when we have a real leader, we’ll look back on this time for what it was.
This is a great post....for the complaints of Donald Trump thread.
 
Like four years ago liberals are doing their best to get Trump reelected. Just when I'm ready to dump Trump these idiots get me so angry I might once again just vote for Trump out of spite and because I know my vote is worthless in a non-battleground state just hold my nose and send the Trump campaign $20 just out of spite.
 
You guys should start an intentional community, call it Rooshville. Find a town with multiple homes on sale, then everyone moves there and starts to take over the town. I have kind of this going with my family. My relatives (father, aunt, cousins etc) own like 50% or something of the homes in my neighborhood out here in a rural area.

EDIT: Just make sure you guys either have some money in the bank or a job that you can work remotely or find a job locally beforehand.
There's an interesting documentary about an Indian religious cult that took over large parts of Oregon, at times dominating the legal and political structure of a small town. It's a fascinating look into an idea that seems so basic and obvious to use in a democracy: 51% gives you full political power. Get 1,500 people to move to a town of 1,500 and you can totally dominate all elected positions, including tax monies and grants given from states to municipalities, even if 100% of the town opposes you. Suddenly the sales and property tax coffers are available to you, the outsider, and you even control the local police force. Democracy may be flawed but it is the system we have so we should use it to our advantage.

The name of the documentary is Wild Wild Country and it's about some hippy mystic types who followed an Indian guru named Rajneesh. They successfully take over politically and economically, but the leadership was corrupt and power hungry and they attempt to essentially take over the entire state and I believe kill some people and it all ends. But the idea itself is brilliant.
 
Rajneesh was a controversial figure in both the U.S. and India. When he became too big he got in legal trouble in both countries. The lesson to be learned is that as long as you are part of the system, you can't really escape it. The best you can do is stay under the radar.
 

Cr33pin

Peacock
Gold Member
Reeeeeee

If I want to hear "orange man bad" I just have to open any other website, social media, or main stream news.... the one place I would like to be able to visit an not hear about how bad the orange man is, is here.

For the love of cornbread.... please use the complaints about Trump thread to spew your hatred an disappointment at the man. An let us few people who know he is flawed but still support him have JUST THIS ONE SPACE on the internet where we dont have to hear about how bad of a Cheeto is is.

Click here to complain about the Cheeto.... stay here once you click it
 

estraudi

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Non-whites will NEVER become republicans.

Losers.

And to imagine we spent years here debating the need to make non-whites "feel welcome".

What a load of crap.
Not sure if satire but I'm non-white in the physical sense. I'm naturally dark brown but am a 4th Gen Texan with deep Spaniard blood and a tinge of Lipan apache.

I would never ever fucking vote for a democrat or a libertarian. This bullshit that there is not ANY republican latinos needs to stop.
There are plenty. A minority to be sure. But we are there nonetheless.
Black pill within the Donald Trump Thread never stops.
I can sense everyone's nervous about the election and it's pouring out of your heads onto your keyboards.
Hopefully everyone is doing their part to help elect Trump again instead of bemoaning him on here.
 

durangotang

Pelican
Not sure if satire but I'm non-white in the physical sense. I'm naturally dark brown but am a 4th Gen Texan with deep Spaniard blood and a tinge of Lipan apache.

I would never ever fucking vote for a democrat or a libertarian. This bullshit that there is not ANY republican latinos needs to stop.
There are plenty. A minority to be sure. But we are there nonetheless.
Black pill within the Donald Trump Thread never stops.
I can sense everyone's nervous about the election and it's pouring out of your heads onto your keyboards.
Hopefully everyone is doing their part to help elect Trump again instead of bemoaning him on here.
That is female logic. In actuality, the exception proves the rule.

It isn't just a small point to concede either to make you feel better, this is the consistent strategy that is ending up in the demise of our nation. Open borders were adopted by Republicans with the promise that Catholic Latinos would vote Republican because they have solid family values and are anti-abortion. IT NEVER HAPPENED! We have 30 years of voting data that shows Latinos vote 80% Democrat. Every single Latino country from the Mexican border south is socialist/Marxist. California was lost, and white Americans have been displaced to a minority there as the population over doubled through immigration. Texas will be lost soon, and the white genocide and replacement level immigration will continue. When Texas goes blue, thanks to Mexican immigration, the whole nation will be like California - a one party Democrat state. Why? So the chamber of commerce and guys like you can delude Republicans into believing that there will be a non-white coalition. Fuck off with that shit.
 
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It_is_my_time

Hummingbird
That is female logic. In actuality, the exception proves the rule.

It isn't just a small point to concede either to make you feel better, this is the consistent strategy that is ending up in the demise of our nation. Open borders were adopted by Republicans with the promise that Catholic Latinos would vote Republican because they have solid family values and are anti-abortion. IT NEVER HAPPENED! We have 30 years of voting data that shows Latinos vote 80% Democrat. Every single Latino country from the Mexican border south is socialist/Marxist. California was lost, and white Americans have been displaced to a minority there as the population over doubled through immigration. Texas will be lost soon, and the white genocide and replacement level immigration will continue. When Texas goes blue, thanks to Mexican immigration, the whole nation will be like California - a one party Democrat state. Why? So the chamber of commerce and guys like you can delude Republicans into believing that there will be a non-white coalition. Fuck off with that shit.
Trump got 28% of the Latino vote and Hillary got 66%. I am guessing Trump might lose some of this 28% because the riots and looting is not very popular among Latinos that vote. Trump is bleeding the White voting base right now, at least that is what polling is showing. And Trump's popularity with the African American voter is about the same as 2016.

Trump is going to have to do something for his 2016 base very soon or it is all over. That is just the facts we have to face as men in a self destructing society.


 
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NoMoreTO

Pelican
Regarding some of the criticism of Trump on here and the last 4 years. Well,... up in Canada we have Justin Trudeau. I know Trump hasn't come through in many cases, but he is there. We have a guy who is basically pushing this stuff.

Imagine if the mindset of Mayor Cuomo was also in the office of the President, leftists would be having a field day. More even than they are now.
 

durangotang

Pelican
Women are the conformist gender. If Trump were to have restored justice and jailed his enemies, instead of always being on the defensive, he might not be in this situation today. Let the left defend Obama when he is in jail for illegally spying on a rival political campaign in an attempt to sabotage it. Instead he has allowed his political supporters to be attacked without civil rights violations and every single illegal institutional activity to go unpunished. I talked to a woman in Tulsa recently and she was afraid that if she went to the rally she might be attacked. Illegal spying, fake investigations, fake impeachments, fake news, censorship, no problem at all. He will defend his worldview because he thinks it makes him popular, so he'll tweet and complain about it, but never take any action. That's not winning. He clearly hasn't shown strength, and has been defending his worldview instead of imposing it. It is no wonder he is losing suburban white women. If it's in your nature to conform, why would you want to conform to that? It's exhausting always defending him, I know, I've tried.

Incidentally, he can't really lose non-white female voters because he never had many in the first place. As an example, Trump lost 92% of the overall black vote but lost 98% of the black female vote. In general Trump appeals to men, not to women, except white women, but he is now losing a certain portion of them as well - understandably so I might add. They have to live and work in an environment where Trump has failed to provide the strength needed for them to exist and relax. Men are more tolerant or more willing to go their own way.
 
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Open borders were adopted by Republicans with the promise that Catholic Latinos would vote Republican because they have solid family values and are anti-abortion. IT NEVER HAPPENED!
The Republican Party has done a horrible job of chasing the Latino vote, to the degree it is doing so at all.
As for borders, the immigrants who are here don't really want any one else to be able to come. It's kind of like if you somehow got in to the VIP club. Do you really want the bouncer to walk away and let everyone else in the club? The immigrants I know are all anti-immigration.

The Republican Party is far too much of a big business, pro war party to attract latinos or even people like me. If they concentrated more on real values, and not weak pandering on some wedge issues that they eventually cave on anyway, they could have something. It could be a real populist movement, but alas they are far too concerned about economic matters and care little for social or moral ones.

Abortion is a controversial topic, and a weird one for a party to take a uncompromising stand on. Personally I would like a society where no abortion happens but in the society we have I am very glad a lot of those kids are not being born. If abortion went away tomorrow, you would see normal Christian whites who are currently at 60% quickly become the minority before the decade is out, and then America is over.

Basically you need to fix the underlying problems before you remove the option of abortion, and anyway the way things are going, prohibiting abortion is a pipe dream, particularly as long as the party supposedly pushing for it is also supporting homosexuality, gay marriage, trannies, war, and a plethora of other maladies.

The bottom line is the Republican Party is a terrible choice, and the two party system is just a scam to push one agenda. The American Eagle is our national figure, and the two parties are just two wings under one giant beak.
 
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