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Canopus

Kingfisher
Oh man, pulling out from a scientifically credible organization like the WHO? What is the President thinking? They're so scientifically credible. Much credible. So science.

Policy & Ethics
The World Health Organization Gives the Nod to Traditional Chinese Medicine. Bad Idea
The World Health Organization is now promoting unproved traditional Chinese medicine


For more than 2,000 years Chinese healers have used herbal powders and tinctures, dust made from various animal parts and strategically placed needles to treat a host of human ailments. These are used in hundreds of nations globally, but the practice in China is perhaps the most extensive, documented and catalogued. Traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) is based on the concept of qi, a system of energy that flows along meridians in the body to maintain health.


Over the past decade proponents of TCM have worked hard to move it into the mainstream of global health care—and it appears those efforts are coming to fruition. The latest (11th) version of the World Health Organization's list known as the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (ICD) will include these remedies for the first time.


According to its own mandate, the WHO sets the norms and standards for medical treatment around the globe and articulates “ethical and evidence-based policy options.” It categorizes thousands of diseases and influences how doctors treat them; how insurers cover those treatments; and what kind of research is done on which ailments. More than 100 countries rely on the document to determine their medical agendas.


To include TCM in the ICD is an egregious lapse in evidence-based thinking and practice. Data supporting the effectiveness of most traditional remedies are scant, at best. An extensive assessment was done in 2009 by researchers at the University of Maryland: they looked at 70 review papers evaluating TCM, including acupuncture. None of the studies proved conclusive because the data were either too paltry or did not meet testing standards.


To be sure, many widely used and experimentally validated pharmaceuticals, including aspirin, decongestants and some anticancer chemotherapies, were originally derived from plants or other natural sources. Those drugs have all gone through extensive clinical testing of safety and efficacy, however. Giving credence to treatments that have not met those standards will advance their use but will also diminish the WHO's credibility.


China has been pushing for wider global acceptance of traditional medicines, which brings in some $50 billion in annual revenue for the nation's economy. And in 2016 Margaret Chan, then the WHO director, praised China's plans to do so. But while it's a good idea to catalogue TCM and make health workers aware of treatments used by millions, their inclusion in the ICD recklessly equates them with medicines that have undergone clinical trials.


In China, traditional medicines are unregulated, and they frequently make people sick rather than curing them. One particularly troublesome ingredient, aristolochic acid, is commonly used in traditional remedies and has been linked to fatal kidney damage and cancers of the urinary tract.


A 2018 study in the British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology tested 487 Chinese products taken by sick patients and discovered 1,234 hidden ingredients, including approved and banned Western drugs, drug analogues and animal thyroid tissue. And in 2012 a team led by Megan Coghlan, then at Murdoch University of Australia, identified the DNA sequences in 15 samples of traditional medicines in the form of powders, tablets, capsules, bile flakes and herbal teas. The samples also contained plants that produce toxic chemicals and animal DNA from vulnerable or endangered species (the Asiatic black bear and saiga antelope, for example) and other creatures protected by international laws.


Thus, the proliferation of traditional medicines would have significant environmental impacts on top of the negative health effects. It would contribute to the destruction of ecosystems and increase the illegal trade of wildlife. China announced last October that it was legalizing the controlled trade of rhinoceros horn and tiger bone. (The move was postponed in November, following a global outcry.) Both are believed by practitioners to have the power to cure a range of ailments, from fever to impotence—although no study has found any beneficial outcome of ingesting either. Allowing even the controlled harvest of otherwise endangered creatures will boost illegal poaching, critics say.


Until they undergo rigorous testing for purity, efficacy, dosage and safety, the WHO should remove traditional medicines from its list. These remedies should be given the same scrutiny as other treatments before being included in standard care practices.
 

budoslavic

Peacock
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A stunning 59 percent of the American people support President Trump’s handling of the protests and riots, with 45 percent even going so far as to say President Trump has not been tough enough, according to a poll conducted by The Democracy Institute.

What’s more, a shocking 70 percent of Americans believe that the Black Lives Matter movement has not improved race relations, with 38 percent even saying they’ve made race relations worse, according to a poll conducted by Monmouth. Only 26 percent of Americans believe Black Lives Matter has made race relations better.
 

acco

Woodpecker
USA will quit from WHO from July 6,2021

WASHINGTON, Jul 08: The American administration has began the process of withdrawing the United States from the World Health Organization (WHO), a move that could affect the Geneva-based UN agency’s response to the corona virus pandemic.

The notice of withdrawal, effective July 6, 2021, was sent Monday to United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres. It stems from President Donald Trump’s vow in late May to terminate US participation in the WHO, which he has harshly criticized for its response to the pandemic and accused it of bowing to Chinese influence.

Former US Vice President Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, said he would reverse the decision on his first day in office if elected. “Americans are safer when America is engaged in strengthening global health,” he tweeted.
full story
 

Zenta

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Considering the man has said time and time again he would release them, then come up with conditions to not release them until its quite obvious he has no intention to release them now or ever, I'd quite like to see whats in them thats so important he can't release them.

I work with more money than most people do and all of the money I work with has a legal trail and we give our tax returns to every bank we work with every year, we have nothing to hide and they appreciate the information for current loans we have on file and in the event we look for more loans in the future. I've looked into Trump financials before and there is a reason he doesn't release them if you follow the strings.

But then again I also pay all of my contractors within days of receiving invoices, so we may just be morally two different type of people :)
 
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Laner

Hummingbird
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Considering the man has said time and time again he would release them, then come up with conditions to not release them until its quite obvious he has no intention to release them now or ever, I'd quite like to see whats in them thats so important he can't release them.
Most likely just one of the many ways he uses to distract his enemies. He will probably wait til they focus 100% on his taxes, likely somewhere after covid_V2 fails and before November. Wind them up to hysterics - as usual - then release a bunch of nothings.
 

Zenta

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Most likely just one of the many ways he uses to distract his enemies. He will probably wait til they focus 100% on his taxes, likely somewhere after covid_V2 fails and before November. Wind them up to hysterics - as usual - then release a bunch of nothings.
Another grand 4D chess move? Time will tell.
 

Monty_Brogan

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Considering the man has said time and time again he would release them, then come up with conditions to not release them until its quite obvious he has no intention to release them now or ever, I'd quite like to see whats in them thats so important he can't release them.

I work with more money than most people do and all of the money I work with has a legal trail and we give our tax returns to every bank we work with every year, we have nothing to hide and they appreciate the information for current loans we have on file and in the event we look for more loans in the future. I've looked into Trump financials before and there is a reason he doesn't release them if you follow the strings.

But then again I also pay all of my contractors within days of receiving invoices, so we may just be morally two different type of people :)
Fine. Then every single career (((politician))) gets to explain why they’re worth 10s of millions -that’s on the low end on the extreme cases, off a government salary.

So everyone releases their tax info.
 

budoslavic

Peacock
Gold Member
Trump's tax papers...same sh*t, different day by the Democrats. :rolleyes:

If the Left is getting their panties in a knot over demanding Trump to release his tax documents , then how about Biden open sealed records about his senate career that have been given to the University of Delaware?

Edit. Heh...The Daily Caller is suing for access to Biden's Delaware documents.

 
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budoslavic

Peacock
Gold Member
There are rumors about Trump being advised to bring Steve Bannon back to campaign duty.


Edit.


This invite was clearly intentional to sow racial division in the U.S. Military.



U.S. Army Message: ‘Make America Great Again,’ Columbus Day Are Signs of ‘White Supremacy’

A U.S. Army email, sent after the Fourth of July to its military and civilian members, included a graphic which claimed saying the phrase “Make America Great Again” is evidence of “white supremacy.”

The graphic listed other behaviors it deemed evidence of white supremacy, including, “Celebration of Columbus Day,” the “Denial of White Privilege,” “Talking about ‘American Exceptionalism,'” and saying “There’s Only One Human Race.”

The email invited “all soldiers and (Department of the Army) Civilian Personnel” to attend the U.S. Army’s “Operation Inclusion” seminars on July 8 and 9 at the Redstone Arsenal Army Base in Alabama. The email was sent by Chaney P. Pickard from the U.S. Army Aviation & Missile Center using an official government email.

The message named the “U.S. Army Equity & Inclusion Agency” and “Assistant Secretary of the Army — Manpower and Reserve Affairs” as authors.

Rep. Mo Brooks (R-AL) — who caught wind of the email — blasted the “deeply offensive and racist U.S. Army ‘Operation Inclusion'” content and demanded the firing and prosecution of Army personnel who used government resources to distribute political propaganda.

Brooks said the email is in “clear violation” of the Hatch Act, which bans government personnel from engaging in political activity while at work.

The seminars are part of a listening tour for the Army’s “Operation Inclusion,” led by the U.S. Army’s Inclusion Advisory Team.

“Disturbingly, the Army chose Redstone Arsenal as the first location on a tour that will cover all Army 4 star commands,” Brooks added.

Brooks has sent a letter to U.S. Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy, demanding an investigation.


“Numerous Redstone Arsenal employees have expressed outrage to me about the U.S. Army blatantly violating the Hatch Act and, in effect, labeling patriotic Americans ‘White Supremacists’ and racists if they say or do dozens of things outlined in the U.S. Army email,” he said.

Brooks asked McCarthy to answer the following:

1. Who within the Department of the Army is responsible for the creation of the email and document?
2. Who within the Department of the Army approved the email and document?
3. Pursuant to the creation and approval of the document, was there a violation of either the Hatch Act or DoD Directive 1344.10?
4. If a violation of the Hatch Act or DoD Directive 1344.10 is found to have occurred, will those responsible be held accountable for their actions?
5. If it is found that a violation occurred (which seems pretty obvious), how will those federal employees be held accountable for their illegal conduct?


Copies of the letter also went to President Donald Trump, Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, and Attorney General William Barr, among others.

The Army confirmed it sent out the email but claimed it was sent “in error” and “immediately recalled.” The Army has initiated an internal investigation to find out what happened:

On July 6, 2020, a Project Inclusion listening tour handout included two unapproved pages that were sent out in error and immediately recalled. The slides – copied from a non-government website – included a word cloud with phrases that were intended to spark conversation; however, the document was predecisional and inappropriate for the discussion. The unapproved pages were in no way used as part of the ‘Your Voice Matters’ listening tour sessions.

As soon Department of the Army leaders were made aware of these products the Army initiated a 15-6 investigation to determine how this happened. The Army does not condone the use of phrases that indicate political support. The Army is and will continue to remain an apolitical organization.
 
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eradicator

Peacock
Gold Member
Considering the man has said time and time again he would release them, then come up with conditions to not release them until its quite obvious he has no intention to release them now or ever, I'd quite like to see whats in them thats so important he can't release them.

I work with more money than most people do and all of the money I work with has a legal trail and we give our tax returns to every bank we work with every year, we have nothing to hide and they appreciate the information for current loans we have on file and in the event we look for more loans in the future. I've looked into Trump financials before and there is a reason he doesn't release them if you follow the strings.

But then again I also pay all of my contractors within days of receiving invoices, so we may just be morally two different type of people :)
If I had to guess, he had a bankruptcy about 25 or 30 years ago and has not had to pay federal income tax since then as per the terms of that.
 

Zenta

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Fine. Then every single career (((politician))) gets to explain why they’re worth 10s of millions -that’s on the low end on the extreme cases, off a government salary.

So everyone releases their tax info.
I wish they would.

If I had to guess, he had a bankruptcy about 25 or 30 years ago and has not had to pay federal income tax since then as per the terms of that.
I could see that as well, but why hide the returns if thats all there is to it?
 

Deepdiver

Hummingbird
Gold Member
There are rumors about Trump being advised to bring Steve Bannon back to campaign duty.


Edit.


This invite was clearly intentional to sow racial division in the U.S. Military.



U.S. Army Message: ‘Make America Great Again,’ Columbus Day Are Signs of ‘White Supremacy’



The ARMY - its not just a job - its a BLMAdventure...
 

budoslavic

Peacock
Gold Member


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Open Letter Against the Student Ban
We, faculty at institutions across the United States, condemn the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) decision, announced Monday July 6th, that stipulates that International Students with F-1 and M-1 visas, “attending schools operating entirely online may not take a full online course load and remain in the United States.” Further it states that students with F-1 visas may not take a fully online course load even if their university or college is adopting a hybrid model.

As universities and colleges do the work of figuring out how to keep our communities safe during the COVID-19 pandemic, while ensuring the integrity of our pedagogy, our administrators have made difficult decisions. To protect our staff, students and workers, some have chosen to go entirely online. And universities and colleges that have chosen a hybrid model may also be forced to go online, if the pandemic’s impact worsens. This ICE decision means that not only will our international students not be allowed to stay in the country, but that even if they do, they will not be allowed to make decisions to keep their family safe from the pandemic by taking an online course load. If universities change course based on this ICE decision, it would mean putting their other students and faculty at risk, forcing all back into classrooms during a pandemic.

This policy is discriminatory. It fails to take into account the profound social and financial investments that international students have made in their often difficult decisions to embark on their educational journeys in the United States. Like all students, international students have created relationships, rented apartments, and invested in communities as they work towards building their futures. For our graduate students, who may have moved here along with their families, and who receive university stipends, this poses additional obstacles around their education and stipends. This policy would uproot their lives during their studies, and force a return to their countries of origin with uncertain prospects. For countries with which the United States has an imposed travel ban, and in a moment of limited global mobility with increasing border restrictions, it is unclear if these students will be able, in the future, to return to the United States. In all of these ways, this policy comes at great financial and emotional expense to our students, and puts their futures in unnecessary limbo.

What’s more, this policy is economically dangerous for our country, particularly in the context of the current financial crisis. The almost one million international students in the United States are drivers of our national economy. The Commerce Department puts international student contributions to the United States economy at $45 billion in 2018. A 2019 report shows that 62% of all international students receive the majority of their funds from sources outside of the United States. And, not only do international students come with their own resources, but they also effectively subsidize higher education, making substantial contributions to the costs of public universities and their domestic students. Finally, international students make up the majority of graduate STEM enrollment, a crucial field in which the United States aims to become a “global leader.”

International students are students. They are also contributors to the growth of higher education in the US. We as educators reject the artificial distinction between foreign and domestic students, which undermines the pursuit of both knowledge and justice. We call on ICE to rescind its decision, and on our university leaders to join us in prioritizing this issue, advocating for our students, and coming up with a quick response that minimizes the impact on international students so they do not have to make the impossible choice to return to their home countries in the context of a global pandemic.

Signed,

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beta_plus

Pelican
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This invite was clearly intentional to sow racial division in the U.S. Military.



U.S. Army Message: ‘Make America Great Again,’ Columbus Day Are Signs of ‘White Supremacy’
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If this is a play by Russia, China, or Iran, it makes sense.

They do not care who runs the USA. They want to cause the USA to implode in order to collapse the US Navy. A race war starting in a branch of the US military, which has been implied to be brewing since World War II, would be perfect for them.

It could also be by cultural marxist and/or globalist forces who have no idea of the hurt that will come down on them if this happens. They never think about this.
 
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