The Donald Trump thread

Troller

Kingfisher
Can I get some clarity on this, please?

Let's say Trump tells us he's going to do something on a specific date. Banning Tiktok, or labeling Antifa terrorists, for example. Then lets say he does not do that.

Should we only comment about broken promises in the complaints thread?

Is this thread only for the totally awesome things Trump has done to make America great again? Like Ivankas "don't go to college, deliver uber eats instead" campaign. We talk about that here, right?

Aloha!


it’s better to be promised 10 and receive 5. Or be promised nothing and receive nothing?
 
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stilldt

Sparrow
You promise 10 give 5. People receive 5. You promise 2 and give 2. Why some people are happier with the person who gave them 2 is something never understoos



it’s better to be promised 10 and receive 5. Or be promised nothing and receive nothing?

Thats actually a very interesting question. Maybe its because you now rationally know the guy who promised 10 is now more likely to take 10 instead?
 

EndlessGravity

Kingfisher
it’s better to be promised 10 and receive 5. Or be promised nothing and receive nothing?

Let's recap. In 2020, if you're a parent you're seeing...
  • A global depression
  • Widespread violence and rioting
  • Schools refusing to open
  • Historic unemployment
  • Censorship and deplatforming
Why are we even talking about TikTok?

I don't want to kick up shit and I stay mostly quiet about Trump. However, this is pretty frustrating by now and there's an obvious answer to my question.

Vote for him, by all means but really, how does anyone respect him after all this?
 

Troller

Kingfisher
I remember numerous threads about false rape accusations. No more.
Hollywood is officially closed.
To me Trump is objecting the agenda and because of that they are unleashing hell on him.
China btw is already hell on earth. Everybody is filmed. A gigantic Truman show. All I mean all interactions analyzed by government. Trump opposes China and I can just imagine the trillions being showered to him to change course.

People say elite is one. That’s not true. Infighting is brutal. And happens all the time. They will do business but are not allowed to associate with enemy factions.
Trump is normal. Doesn’t seem like a fag or a pedo. I would rather lose 90% of my income but things looking more normal on human relations. More children being born. Less divorces. More family centered policies.
Trump accelerated something which was already happening. It was just a slower death. At least he seems to be fighting back. If he could do better? yes. Dropped the ball on corona. But will see what happens with second term.

 
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budoslavic

Peacock
Gold Member
What did Trump mean by this? With that many p*ssed off enemies, I don't know why that part sounds ominous.



That snippet is from his recent speech at Whirlpool Corporation in Clyde, Ohio.

 

NY Digital

Pelican
Gold Member
"We’re doing it right now, with the FDA; we’re getting vaccines approved in days that nobody thought possible. It would take years and years, and we’re doing it in months, and we’re doing very well."
 

Zenta

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Can I get some clarity on this, please?

Let's say Trump tells us he's going to do something on a specific date. Banning Tiktok, or labeling Antifa terrorists, for example. Then lets say he does not do that.

Should we only comment about broken promises in the complaints thread?

Is this thread only for the totally awesome things Trump has done to make America great again? Like Ivankas "don't go to college, deliver uber eats instead" campaign. We talk about that here, right?

Aloha!

Kona, its called a SAFE PLACE, and it is PATHETIC. Sorry to bust your nuts but when a thread is about a person you can also post when they do not fulfill promises and do not live up to their WORD.

When I learned about red pill, I learned that at its core it was about becoming the best man you could be, that means identifying FLAWS and getting rid of them. That means strengthening your body and mind in the face of adversity in a world that is out to cancel you. You cannot be the best man you can be if you choose to ignore someones flaws and continue to circle jerk for them, that is what beta blue pills do. I was taught that when you see red flags you don't bury them and hope they go away, as the captain of the ship you abandon that course and set sail towards a different course that does not sacrifice your integrity as a man. If a woman had lied to me this many times and shown me this many red flags I would have next'ed her years ago! Yet they want a safe space here where you can't talk about red flags and flaws in a thread about the man himself! Hah, the irony of what some people become.

Pointing out that Trump has not done a majority of what he has promised is not a complaint. Discussing what little Trump is currently doing versus what he should be doing is not a complaint either. This is not a safe space. This is a thread about Donald J. Trump. Get over it.
 

EndlessGravity

Kingfisher
Might as well delete the complaints about Trump thread...... seemed like a great idea, the haters can chant and rant about how bad the orange man is in their own little echo chamber.... yet they all choose to come over here an do it

Someone asked where the line is between these threads. I'm not a Trump hater. This is the first post I've made in either thread, I believe. However, I have been actively questioning whether Trump supporters understand what's going on anymore than SJWs do. I wanted to give you a chance to respond.

Just look at the post above this one by @RaccoonFace. Anyone who believes there's an economic recovery underway or the media is trying to cover it up...is very misguided about where we are. This is concerning.
 
@Kona and others

Trump has:

- Reduced refugee admissions (aka Muslim immigration) to the lowest level since the 80s
- Canceled and not enforced the Obama era fair housing rule that would force diversity into white middle class neighbourhoods
- Canceled the globalist trade deal TPP
- Withrew from the globalist Paris Climate Accord that would have imposed high taxes and a lot of regulations on Americans if enforced
- Reduced legal immigration by 49% in his first term
- Started no new major wars, and has tried to withdraw troops to the furthest extent possible, but he has been stimied by Congress on this issue in many ways
- Appointed a countless amount of conservative judges

In terms of rhetoric he has also continued to push the immigration issue, he has defended the Confederate flag as opposed to many members of his party. Trump also stood strong against the media at the time of the Charlotesville rally.

Why is there no recognition of all of this by critics? You are not, by definition, a Q-anon retard for supporting Trump at this point in time. There are plenty of rational reasons to back him that have nothing with a cult of personality. Trump should, in my opinion, be far more vocal on certain issues like feminism and transgenderism. This has nothing to with a cult of personality to me.

You also are not, by definition, some great intellectual genius for believing in "accelarationism" and that a Biden victory would bring about some great white awakening. The people who believe that project the current behavior of the media and Democratic Party into the future and assume that they would behave exactly the same way after a Biden vicory. They're currently the opposition party, not the incumbent party and that obviously heavily influences the current nonsense that they're engaging in. After a Biden victory, this dynamic would fundamentally change and they would behave far differently. They would 1) not try to crash the economy like they are currently doing to hurt the incumbent party and president 2) and would not tactily support rioters. They also would not increase taxes like crazy immediately in the wake of a Biden victory despite some of the promises that DNC establishment has made to the AOC/Bernie crowd. All of the great white awaking fantasies are predicated on these conditions, and I disagree with them that that is how things would go down if Trump loses re-election.

What pisses me off the most about black piller types is that they always act as if Congress, courts, the deep state, and the media do not exist, and that the president/executive branch controls everything, which is not the case. The anger at Trump is misdirected, it should be directed at Congressional Republicans that have blocked a lot of his agenda.

I simply think a lot of people were swept up in the 2016 hype, and are now venting their disappointment and anger at the wrong person because they were deluded about what was actually possible for Trump to achieve in 1 or 2 terms given the forces he's up against.

Instead of doing productive things like trying to oust cuck Republican Senators and trying to red pill normiecons on the JQ, the alt-right invested their precious time into podcasting and decided to sit back and complain about the orange man, and pretending that his Jewish son-in-law is to blame for all contemporary political problems in the United States as opposed to major Congressional opposition to the main parts of the populist Trump agenda (aka no useless wars, immigration restrictionism and better trade deals).

But yes, please keep pretending that someone like Tucker Carlson or Rand Paul would have done a better job. They would have made the Jewish establishment tremble with all of their independent wealth that they have and they would have made the media and Mit Romney, Ben Sasse and countless other cuck Republican senators disappear with their magic tricks.

Someone also has to be explain to me why someone who has been "selected" by the system is still being opposed by ardent Jewish neocons like Bill Kristol and Jennifer Rubin. Those 2 people hate him as much as they did in 2016. How is that possible when Trump's foreign policy is supposedly so terrible according to blackpillers? Could it have something to do with the fact that moving an embassy to a certain city is a meaningless and symbolic move? Could it have something to do with the fact that he has nothing of note in Syria after those airstrikes in 2017 and 2018 that sent the alt-right into a meltdown? Could it have something to do with the fact that Trump is now withdrawing troops from Germany? Could it have something to do with the fact that Trump fired Bolton, called him a warmongering fool on Twitter and refused to take his advice on Venezuela? Could it have something to do with the fact that Trump's also hasn't done anything in Iran after killing that general in early 2020?
 
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Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
To Zenta and all the other whiners beatching that Uncle Trumpy promised me a long list and only delivered on half and now that a CCP bioweapon was released on the US your life is still not perfect. You all sound like list bishes really.

The alpha men here told you when Trump was elected you would have 3 to 4 years of cover and if lucky 8 years before the Marxist Socialist Globalists rolled out their CCP puppets to take control of the West.

4 to 8 years to either step up like a real man and MAKE a life for yourself or sit around like a Bernie bro and keep on biitçching while the clock keeps ticking....
 
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Zenta

Woodpecker
Gold Member
To Zenta and all the other whiners beatching that Uncle Trumpy promised me a long list and only delivered on half and now that a CCP bioweapon was released on the US your life is still not perfect. You all sound like list bishes really.

The alpha men here told you when Trump was elected you would have 3 to 4 years of cover and if lucky 8 years before the Marxist Socialist Globalists rolled out their CCP puppets to take control of the West.

4 to 8 years to either step up like a real man and MAKE a life for yourself or sit around like a Bernie bro and keep on biitçching while the clock keeps ticking....

I must have missed stepping up like a man and making a life for myself while I'm busy running half of a multimillion dollar property management company and moving back to take care of my mom who had a stroke. I'll try harder! Thanks.

Its almost like I have more insight than most at just how shitty of a business man Trump is seeing as I do the same as him, albeit on a smaller scale, without failing/ going bankrupt, getting sued, or stiffing my contractors.
 
I must have missed stepping up like a man and making a life for myself while I'm busy running half of a multimillion dollar property management company and moving back to take care of my mom who had a stroke. I'll try harder! Thanks.

Its almost like I have more insight than most at just how shitty of a business man Trump is seeing as I do the same as him, albeit on a smaller scale, without failing/ going bankrupt, getting sued, or stiffing my contractors.
What does this have to do with anything? This discussion is about how high or low we rate Trump's record as president and to which extent 1) he himself or outside forces (Congress, media, deep state) are to blame for certain problems and 2) if an alt-right hero like Tucker Carlson would have done better in his place and also 3) what the best path forward is.

You undermine your own credibility with this nonsense because it shows that you have personal hostility towards Trump as a person.

This is kind of ironic because critics of Trump's always claim the same, but the opposite way of Trump backers: that they're deluded cultists who can see no wrong in Trump which hurts their objectivity.

You didn't answer to any of the arguments that I made in my post, which is obviously very telling, because you have to prove certain things for your case that are very hard to prove.

You have to prove:

1) that Trump didn't do "anything" as president (I think reducing Muslim immigration heavily and not starting any major new wars counts as "something", but hey, maybe that's just me!)
2) that someone else would have done better. This person, presumably, would have magic powers and he would have disbanded AIPAC, destroyed the liberal media and made Mitt Romney into a far-right nationalist.
3) that a Biden presidency would bring about the great white awakening and a great white ethno-state. black-pillers never talk about the fact that internet censorship, hate-speech laws and general government prosecution of non-cuck rightists will also accelerate, aside from their assumption that lock-downs and economic depression would continue under Biden.
 
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Zenta

Woodpecker
Gold Member
What does this have to do with anything? This discussion is about how high or low we rate Trump's record as president and to which extent 1) he himself or outside forces (Congress, media, deep state) are to blame for certain problems and 2) if an alt-right hero like Tucker Carlson would have done better in his place and also 3) what the best path forward is.

You undermine your own credibility with this nonsense because it shows that you have personal hostility towards Trump as a person.

This is kind of ironic because critics of Trump's always claim the same, but the opposite way of Trump backers: that they're deluded cultists who can see no wrong in Trump which hurts their objectivity.

You didn't answer to any of the arguments that I made in my post, which is obviously very telling, because you have to prove certain things for your case that are very hard to prove.

You have to prove:

1) that Trump didn't do "anything" as president (I think reducing Muslim immigration heavily and not starting any major new wars counts as "something", but hey, maybe that's just me!)
2) that someone else would have done better. This person, presumably, would have magic powers and he would have made disbanded AIPAC, destroyed the liberal media and made Mitt Romney into a far-right nationalist.
3) that a Biden presidency would bring about the great white awakening and a great white ethno-state. black-pillers never talk about the fact that internet censorship, hate-speech laws and general government prosecution of non-cuck rightists will also accelerate, aside from their assumption that lock-downs and economic depression would continue under Biden.

That would be because I was not replying to your post. I was replying to Deepdivers where he told me to step up like a real man and make a life for myself.

1) No one has ever claimed trump didn't do "anything". You've listed stuff trump has done, I don't see me posting about disagreeing with that? Its what he has not done, or promised to do and failed to deliver on.

2) Again I don't get the point of this. I voted for Trump in 2016 and now I no longer support him, I'm not posting that someone else would have done better, if that is what you think then you haven't read my posts. I post about the quality of Trumps character (or lack there of) and that I do not support some of the low moral caliber.

3) This stuff is all happening under Trump, do you see him saving any of his supporters? No one in here is saying that we support Biden and hope he wins, I don't support Biden at all, again if you read my posts I've stated so many times that Biden has a Dementia. Youre under the impression that I support either candidate or have to support one of them. They are both weak men.

Edit: Yes I do not like Trump as a person. I think that is plainly stated in my above post talking about what I learned as a redpilled man. I do not have to like or respect someone whom I think is of low moral character. Hes nothing but a showman. In that same vein I do not like Biden as a person either if it makes you feel better.
 

Dusty

Peacock
Gold Member
What a surprise, a Bernie Bro doesn’t like T.

I find this to be an interesting post. More so the guy being a complete loser and how was he elected mayor of his city? In that regards is his past and path really that much different than a majority of people who thought out the red pill to change their loser lifestyles into something more? The man has an ideological vision and he has stuck to it and worked hard to achieve where he is now, for the most part as far as I am aware, without faltering. A man who genuinely stands up for what he believes in and doesn't have a laundry list of bribes and lobbyists unlike the majority of the rest of politicians, earns my respect even if he is a socialist. Integrity goes a long way in my books, even if that integrity comes a bit later in life for some of us.

Is his change in paths not that much different from our own Roosh's going from one of the most world wide known player in the manosphere to being a man of god now? Might you ask the exact same question of Roosh that you did above after listing sanders past?

I am genuinely curious where do we draw the line on judging someones past vs what they are doing now to make a difference and atone for it. Maybe you can enlighten me if I am off track here.


Edit: Btw I think they are going to try to slip in Killary in some way. Maybe as Joes Vp.

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