The Edward Snowden Thread

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Robin
RE: NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden In His Own Words

Michael Hayden, the former head of the NSA, said that Snowden supporters are "nihilists, anarchists, activists, Lulzsec, Anonymous, twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years."

The last one gave me a good chuckle.
 

Architekt

Ostrich
RE: NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden In His Own Words

I heard something on the radio today about Obama snubbing Putin. America is going to become the next Germany - doing not too bad just this second, but now they're dragging Russia in.. I have a feeling all the USA members may want to get out of the country sometime very soon.

One of my favourite quotes:

‘‘There are times when they slip back into Cold War thinking and Cold War mentality,’’ Mr Obama said.

Shit's definitely boiling up
 

Ensam

Ostrich
Gold Member
RE: NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden In His Own Words

A War You Cannot Win said:
Kingsley Davis said:
Uncle Sam hatin because that shit was under the table and he was'nt going to get a cut of the fee. Besides that's his racket they were intruding on.

Precisely. I find it incredibly hypocritical of the US government to openly oppose this when considering how many resources we dedicated to protecting the CIA's poppy fields in Afghanistan.

Caligula said:
Bolthouse said:
Is there an opensource OS that you can install on a Mac?

You can install Ubuntu.

You don't even need to commit to it fully form the beginning since you can just dual boot; you choose which operating system to boot into when your computer starts.

http://lifehacker.com/5934942/how-t...-and-take-back-your-powerhouse-apple-hardware

Here's a useful guide to software, etc -

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromMacOSX

Or you can install NSAs security enhanced linux http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/. The NSA is a funny organization - they're charged with simultaneously invading and protecting our privacy.
 

Walderschmidt

 
Banned
RE: NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden In His Own Words

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RexImperator

Crow
Gold Member
RE: NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden In His Own Words

Anyone else see the new PBS Frontline documentary about NSA eavesdropping? I thought it was decent. Part two airs next week.
 

Helix

 
Banned
Edward Snowden associating with retarded "Black Lives Matter" activist DeRay Mckesson

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/edward-snowden-black-lives-matter_561c5a81e4b0c5a1ce60527c

NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden and Black Lives Matter activist DeRay Mckesson had a spirited discussion about their respective causes on Twitter Monday night, trading points on the relationship between police and state violence and surveillance.

It started when Snowden tweeted:
If you want to protect your rights, you've got to protect the rights of others. Social justice is common sense.

Mckesson then asked Snowden what he thought about the Black Lives Matter movement and police violence.

What are your thoughts about Black Lives Matter, the movement re: ending police & state violence? https://twitter.com/snowden/status/653708727502151680

Mckesson also brought up how activists like him have been monitored by government officials. He asked Snowden for tips on how activists can safeguard their information and protect their organization.

Snowden, in turn, asked Mckesson how people "can highlight the danger" of intelligence officials targeting civil rights activists -- which has occurred throughout American history, most notably during the Civil Rights movement.

In the end, the two agreed to hold a public debate about these topics, which, judging from the Twitter exchange, could be very interesting.

@Snowden, would you be down to have a public talk re: intersections b/t surveillance & state violence w/ me if we can figure out logistics?
 

Eskhander

Pelican
RE: Edward Snowden associating with retarded "Black Lives Matter" activist DeRay Mckesson

Snowden always struck me as very full of himself, especially his "I'm just a citizen with a voice" spiel on twitter.

So it makes sense he would try to present an image of an enlightened messiah who bestows his allegiance upon a 'virtuous social movement.'
 

Hotwheels

Crow
Gold Member
RE: Edward Snowden associating with retarded "Black Lives Matter" activist DeRay Mckesson

I know a lot here are with Snowden and his cause.

I'd have him killed.

Do not confuse the fact that while you may not like what your country is doing, a traitor is still a traitor.
 

Roosh

Cardinal
Orthodox
RE: Edward Snowden associating with retarded "Black Lives Matter" activist DeRay Mckesson

If he's an ally of social justice, he's an enemy of mine.
 

The Beast1

Peacock
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
RE: Edward Snowden associating with retarded "Black Lives Matter" activist DeRay Mckesson

Damn Edward you jumped the shark. Lets see him try some of this BS in Russia. I bet they'd have him sent back to the US in an instance.
 

Sp5

 
Banned
RE: Edward Snowden associating with retarded "Black Lives Matter" activist D...

Guy with 3 posts attacks Snowden here at RVF as a SJW after the neoliberal New Republic publishes a hit piece on Snowden, Greenwald and Assange as right-wing libertarians: The New Republic: How would you feel about Snowden, Greenwald and Assange if you knew what they really believe?

Tailored, coordinated "Information Operations" campaign, or just groupthink manifesting itself in different ways? You be the judge, but there is not too much in this realm which could be considered :tinfoilhat: .

In fact, Snowden told us they do this shit.

People are now so isolated in their own political pods, they don't look outside of them, so they don't notice the contradictions.

Of course, if they ring the bell, many dogs will drool. Emmanuel Goldstein is a bad guy, we all know that.

The important thing is what Snowden did, which was to tell all of us we are subjected to total intrusive surveillance all of the time. I don't see anything but a young, patriotic American who took his oath to the Constitution seriously and gave up a live of comfort on Hawaii to bravely tell us about the government breaking the law.
 

Handsome Creepy Eel

Owl
Catholic
Gold Member
RE: Edward Snowden associating with retarded "Black Lives Matter" activist DeRay Mckesson

He still has enough cred for doing good things that I'm not going to start hating on him just because he expressed support for these lunatics.
 

Phoenix

 
Banned
RE: Edward Snowden associating with retarded "Black Lives Matter" activist DeRay Mckesson

^ Welcome back, Sp5. You may not have been pardoned, but I think you can consider the 'Migrant Invasion' thread a full and total vindication.

Hotwheels said:
I'd have him killed.
Do not confuse the fact that while you may not like what your country is doing, a traitor is still a traitor.

A traitor against your country or your government? Snowden is a true hero, and sacrificed his own well-being to help preserve our freedoms.

The funniest thing is when people turn on him because he supposedly put the US military at risk. Well what is the purpose of the US military? Whenever I hear people speak highly of the military, it's always because "they fought to preserve our freedom". That is their point of merit, and that is the virtue of the role they play in our society. And what did Snowden do?. Exactly the same thing. And if a general's commands causes the loss of life of his soldiers, do we call him a traitor? No, that would be retarded. His commands, at the risk of his soldiers lives, were ultimately to protect the freedom of his nation (at least in a true, moral war). For that same reason, that Snowden potentially put soldiers at risk (haven't actually heard of an instance of any soldier being killed as a result though...), is of no moral deviance, given that it was ultimately to protect the freedom of his people.
 

Hotwheels

Crow
Gold Member
RE: Edward Snowden associating with retarded "Black Lives Matter" activist DeRay Mckesson

If you needed Snowden to tell you the government was watching you....
 
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