The Female Teacher-Male Student Caught Having Sex Thread

I'd argue that 13 year old boy gladly engaged in it. Me and mines were always talking about girls at that age and if we had a chance at sex, esp if shes nice looking, we would go for it. I know one of the guys got with a college chick around 15.

What I'm saying is that it's not unheard of for a young boy to say "yes." Puberty is quite the thing.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Then you're missing the entire point of children being protected under the law from being in a position to give consent.

If they're allowed to say yes to Mrs Homeroom then technically they're allowed to say yes to Mr English.

So try to imagine some faggot fucking your son in the ass and it being ok because between his position of authority and his persuasiveness he convinced junior to say the magic word.

Your kid isn't allowed to take out a 100,000 dollar loan because he doesn't understand consequences.
Your kid isn't allowed to volunteer someone a kidney because he doesn't understand consequences.
And your kid isn't allowed to volunteer his dick to a sexual predator because he doesn't understand consequences.

If you don't get this then as rude as it sounds to say it, you don't really belong in a civilized society. Don't take it too seriously though. Most people in the West these days don't even comprehend the basic fundamentals of why these rules exist in the first place. But perhaps you'd understand if someone told you they didn't want you around their ten year old daughter because your principles don't preclude having sex with her as long as she agreed to it.
 
I'm aware of that conundrum, but I'm coming at this from a more logos / masculine mindset. He should not be able to say yes to a gay teacher or older person. To me, fucking a woman is natural. Fucking a man is not. Consent is easy for males: we dont overthink and we tend to know what we want. A puberty, we want to start seeding women. We dont know why, but our bodies want to fuck the nearest girl. Since school keeps boys and girls ideally seperate as far as relationships is concerned, boys will use other paths, such as making out behind the bleachers, looking at porn, or fucking the older female teacher.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
You ought to start making distinctions between nature and civilised behavior.

There are thousands of natural biological responses that we've ruled as being unhelpful to establishing the common good. Alternately if a gang of men bashes your head in and rapes your girlfriend then everyone else can say "it's a natural response to competing interests for mating rights, y'know, logos and all that".

Just because nature provides the will doesn't mean civilized men are obligated to turn a blind eye.

Approaching this from your direction leads to Africa.
 
I'm not equating rape with consensual understanding. I'm putting up the question, "who" said that boys should be nannied until 18? A man did not tell boys to be good and not have sex till the consent age of 18. Women and their male supporters did. Public schools and society has been too much of a nanny state, and objectively has screwed both sexes more than helped.

I do not ask for us to regress to barbaric times. I ask that we reconsider if consent is as finetuned as it can be. The nanny state is why boys are currently still boys to the age of 30. My argument is that civilization, in terms of sexuality, has had far more harm on the mental than allowing boys to embrace their sexual instincts. At that point, I agree as civilized beings, we keep them from raping, but education on relationships and healthy sex is a better solution. And not to disencourage them that sex is bad. Not to be confused with the hedonstic definitions of sexual freedom. Take them back to the old days where the man is seen as the responsible breadwinner and must make sure he knows the rules of having a female. If you want to have sex with her, be prepared to work for her and the ensuring family. Again, the 18 month school period is a new thing for humans and is stunting maturity growth.
 

Solitaire

Robin
Leonard D Neubache said:
You ought to start making distinctions between nature and civilised behavior.

There are thousands of natural biological responses that we've ruled as being unhelpful to establishing the common good. Alternately if a gang of men bashes your head in and rapes your girlfriend then everyone else can say "it's a natural response to competing interests for mating rights, y'know, logos and all that".

Just because nature provides the will doesn't mean civilized men are obligated to turn a blind eye.

Approaching this from your direction leads to Africa.

+1 rep from me for these responses today.
 

Garuda

Woodpecker
There needs to be some consistency between states on this problem....

WalterBlack said:
The student in this case is also female:

Special ed teacher charged with having sex with female student



A special education teacher in Ohio allegedly had sex with a 17-year-old female student, authorities said.

Jennifer Walsh, a 26-year-old teacher at Sycamore High School in Cincinnati, was indicted by a grand jury Monday on two counts of sexual battery in connection with the alleged relationship with the teen from May through August, WXIX reports.

This teacher avoided jail this week because the kid testified on her behalf on how it's ongoing and consensual.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ids-jail-judge-says-isnt-sexual-predator.html

An Ohio teacher who had sex with a 17-year-old female pupil avoided prison on Friday and walked out of court with a probation sentence after the student professed that she was still in love with her and police said they would likely carry on their romance.

Jennifer Walsh 27, had been facing 18 months behind bars on a charge of gross sexual imposition for having sex with the girl while working as a special ed teacher at Sycamore High School in Cincinnati, Ohio.

But on Friday, prosecutors allowed her to plead to a lesser charge which carried only a probation sentence.

The judge, who remarked on how unique the case was, said that she was not a sexual predator despite having a relationship with the underage girl because she was 'willing'.

'The detective said you're not a sexual predator and I don’t think you are, either,' Judge Jody Marie Luebbers said.

She said the case was 'truly unique'.

'I know in my heart that I am completely in love with this woman, without a doubt,' the student said on Wednesday.

It is unclear what the student's parents make of their relationship or of the fact that Walsh walked free from court.

The lead investigator asked for leniency in the case because the student never 'felt forced or coerced.'

They said the romance was 'real' and would likely carry on.

Montgomery Police Detective Steve Hoy said the case different from other teacher-student relationships he's investigated, adding he believes their relationship is genuine.

Luebbers heard from Hoy, the student and Walsh's mother on Wednesday.

After meeting with the prosecutor and Walsh's attorney in her chambers for 15 minutes, she delayed the sentencing saying 'I just need...more time.'

Walsh originally faced two counts of sexual battery but the charges were reduced in a plea deal.

In the investigation police seized Walsh’s computer, cell phone and personal documents in their search.
 

Lime

Woodpecker
What are the consequences for the boy that justify 20 years in prison? What she did was wrong but this is draconic. Must be an American thing.
 
^^^. So I guess you feel the same thing about a male teacher having sex with a female student of the same age. He shouldn’t get 20 years also? I see that people still babying women. I doubt the same considerations would be around for male counterparts. But I guess I do the same thing sometimes. I guess no one really takes; women serious, when they do wrong.
 

SeaFM

Kingfisher
15 or 16 is a different ballgame than 13.

As for the Epstein comment, I’m sure a politically connected billionaire with dirt on the elites of the world will surely get the same treatment as a school teacher.
 

Brother Abdul Majeed

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Lime said:
What are the consequences for the boy that justify 20 years in prison? What she did was wrong but this is draconic. Must be an American thing.

Who knows what the consequences will be down the road? An inability to trust women, a desire for inappropriate sexual relationships, depression, other factors that will come into play?

However, this sentence is how the law should work. The consequences of diddling minors that are in your charge should be the same for both men and women. Justice should be blind.

Whether someone swindles $1000.00 from a millionaire or from an average Joe, the sentence should be the same despite the fact that the consequences to the millionaire will most certainly be less.
 

VNvet

Kingfisher
Manbeline said:
To me, fucking a woman is natural.
...
or fucking the older female teacher.

Younger man-older woman relationships aren't natural. So a logos argument doesn't even make sense.

Plus, just because something is natural doesn't necessarily mean it's healthy. And if it is healthy, you shouldn't indulge in it.
 

Mentavious

Hummingbird
Gold Member
I’m sick of seeing guys on here saying they would praise their son if he were manipulated and abused sexually by a older woman. Imagine your own flesh and blood is with a unstable woman but all you can think about is that he got laid?

GTFO here with that
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Threads like this reinforce my belief that our increasingly childless society has led to a majority of the population being trapped in a form of adolescence where they only perceive the world in terms of sexual gratification.

It's a well-worn cliche to say "if you had kids you'd understand" but it's a reality, and part of the degeneracy that's coming down on all our heads is a result of childless people becoming a majority. If you don't have children then there's a huge chunk in your understanding of civilization and its continuity that's flat out missing. Listening to childless people talk about how they would have thought it was okidoke to have sex with their teacher when they were 13? It's like listening to cripples lecture people on how to hit jumpshots.

But this is why the elites use sex and sexual liberation more specifically as such a powerful weapon for the deconstruction of the previous civilization. Age of consent laws have been around for a long time and it's been proven for centuries that delayed loss of virginity leads to more stable family units and therefore more stable societies. But because sex is such a powerful mental weapon you get stupidity like people admitting that liberalism has degraded our societies "...but we could stand to be more liberal on sex, because that's different." If you convince people to think with their dick or their pussy then of course it's OK for a 13 year old boy to have sex with his teacher, because if the dick is happy then everyone wins, right?

This is why the Woody Allen thread has a bunch of otherwise rational men spinning the hamster wheel about how Woody fucking the girl that was raised in his home as soon as she reached age of consent (yeah right) is OK. Because they live for the nerve endings in their penis and nothing is more sacred than keeping the gateway to sex as open as possible.

In a perfect world there would be a machine that scans your brain and determines when you've reached a thresh-hold for adulthood that allows you to give consent, but until that time comes you have to have hard and fast rules for how many years old someone has to be before they can enter into such an arrangement.

Bosch said this in another thread and it hits the nail on the head.

I've (the father said) worked with hundreds of adults who have suffered sexual abuse as young children. Nothing you have said surprised me. It's textbook."

Do you understand now why Reform Judaism targets children younger than seven with inappropriate 'sexual education', 'gender fluidity' and 'gay cheerleading'? They're trying to damage their cogitative reasoning before the age of reason, creating an inability to choose virtue over sin, as the lower Animal Soul, with the pull towards immediate gratification of pleasure, will dominate.

A society run by people who prioritize stimulating genital nerves over any duty to higher awareness or civil thought has no future but degradation and suffering.
 

Bienvenuto

Pelican
Gold Member
One thing to bear in mind:

I know a guy who was officially a victim of a paedophile ring.
From the age of 9/10. It was extremely well organised and both of the main characters had tens of victims, were implicated years later as elderly men and died before they saw any verdict, one in prison.

Talking to experts and talking to him.. the minor victim of adult sexual advances will grow up and find themselves attracted to the same age minor they were as victims when they become adults. It is a strong urge.

This guy grew up to be a bit of a player, had a successful and happy love life with other adults, attractive ones.
But he had uncontrollable urges toward kids the same age he was when he was groomed/ seduced/ whatever.
Controllable in the sense that he doesn't go near kids except friendly to his young relatives.
Uncontrollable in the sense that that was what his libido most wanted.
Tore him apart inside.
The secret of a few closed eyes fantasies to climax with adult partners that gave him rock-solid boners but that he couldn't naturally orgasm with.

It's a dirty secret in psychological research and victim support circles.

No-one talks about it because its not fair on the law abiding victims.

But its a fact, everyone I know who has spoken about childhood sexual abuse and its effects candidly in person says that it left them with the age-reversal effect.

Abused by an adult at the age of 8/12/16 , experience urges toward 8/12/16 year olds when they become adults.

The gender shifts according to the genders initially involved and the person's sexuality.

I'm not going to push it on the forum because I realise that this might be an unpopular assertion.

Guy I went to school with became a famous(-ish) actor.

Had an affair with his drama teacher (drama teacher was a hot attention hound - fantasy for all the boys in school) at the age of 17.
He probably does school visits as part of his job sometimes.
No doubt he finds some of the 17/18 year old girls he sees sexually attractive as most men probably do.
Doesn't do anything about it.
Whoop-de-fucking-doo. No big deal.

The age of consent is 16 in the Uk but for a drama teacher 18 or younger I believe is illegal with her charges.

No-one ever squealed.. no-one cares.

Now. Imagine if he'd been 14.. Or 13.. Or 12. And he grows up to have urges towards 14 year olds, 13 year olds, 12 year olds.

Cos that's what's coming for this 13 year old 'victim'.
Who will never publicly acknowledge it or talk about it.
Hopefully he has a good life women and family.
But it'll be there.

I agree with people talking about the natural order and about how its different for teenage boys as opposed to teenage girls

But these things have unforeseen consequences.

20 years is too much when you only do 5 years in England for killing someone but a 13 year old? with all the unforeseen consequences?

I have a certain schadenfreude toward this sociopathic, denying bitch.
 

Handsome Creepy Eel

Owl
Gold Member
Leonard D Neubache said:
Threads like this reinforce my belief that our increasingly childless society has led to a majority of the population being trapped in a form of adolescence where they only perceive the world in terms of sexual gratification.

It's a well-worn cliche to say "if you had kids you'd understand" but it's a reality, and part of the degeneracy that's coming down on all our heads is a result of childless people becoming a majority. If you don't have children then there's a huge chunk in your understanding of civilization and its continuity that's flat out missing. Listening to childless people talk about how they would have thought it was okidoke to have sex with their teacher when they were 13? It's like listening to cripples lecture people on how to hit jumpshots.

But this is why the elites use sex and sexual liberation more specifically as such a powerful weapon for the deconstruction of the previous civilization. Age of consent laws have been around for a long time and it's been proven for centuries that delayed loss of virginity leads to more stable family units and therefore more stable societies. But because sex is such a powerful mental weapon you get stupidity like people admitting that liberalism has degraded our societies "...but we could stand to be more liberal on sex, because that's different." If you convince people to think with their dick or their pussy then of course it's OK for a 13 year old boy to have sex with his teacher, because if the dick is happy then everyone wins, right?

This is why the Woody Allen thread has a bunch of otherwise rational men spinning the hamster wheel about how Woody fucking the girl that was raised in his home as soon as she reached age of consent (yeah right) is OK. Because they live for the nerve endings in their penis and nothing is more sacred than keeping the gateway to sex as open as possible.

In a perfect world there would be a machine that scans your brain and determines when you've reached a thresh-hold for adulthood that allows you to give consent, but until that time comes you have to have hard and fast rules for how many years old someone has to be before they can enter into such an arrangement.

Bosch said this in another thread and it hits the nail on the head.

I've (the father said) worked with hundreds of adults who have suffered sexual abuse as young children. Nothing you have said surprised me. It's textbook."

Do you understand now why Reform Judaism targets children younger than seven with inappropriate 'sexual education', 'gender fluidity' and 'gay cheerleading'? They're trying to damage their cogitative reasoning before the age of reason, creating an inability to choose virtue over sin, as the lower Animal Soul, with the pull towards immediate gratification of pleasure, will dominate.

A society run by people who prioritize stimulating genital nerves over any duty to higher awareness or civil thought has no future but degradation and suffering.

I agree with you, but are we as a society ready to actually enforce this? Can you ever imagine the court cases below becoming standard practice without first tearing down and rebuilding everything? Because those court cases are the only way to actually make it happen:

Adult man gets sleeps with a 16 year old girl, gets 15 years in prison:
Standard Media Kenya said:
15 years in jail for man found with schoolgirl in lodging

Reuben Shisia was convicted on a main count of defiling a 16-year-old girl on July 6, 2015, at Matioli Shopping Centre, Kakamega Central District.

Shisia offered to carry the girl and her friend on his motorcycle up to where they were headed to. Upon arriving at Matioli, he bought the girl’s friend a soda and asked her to leave. Shisia then headed to a lodging with the Standard Seven girl.

A few minutes later, residents knocked on his door, asking why he had a young girl in his room. The residents alerted the police who took Shisia to Kakamega Police Station.

The girl said Shisia duped her into coming with him to the lodging. The girl was taken to Kakamega County General Hospital where tests confirmed a recent sexual activity.

However, the girl was two months pregnant by the time the offence was committed.

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/art...jail-for-man-found-with-schoolgirl-in-lodging

Adult woman sleeps with a 16 year old boy, has him drop out of school and moves in with him, gets 15 years in prison:
Standard Media Kenya said:
Judith Wandera, 24, imprisoned for 15 years for defiling 16-year-old boy

Kisumu, Kenya: Judith Wandera, 24, has been imprisoned for 15 years by Kisumu Court after she was found guilty of defiling 16-year-old boy.

A prosecutor Nyakundi Mukaya told the court that medical evidence from specimen collected from the duo confirmed that the woman and the schoolboy were having an intimate affair. He noted that the boy had been living with the accused for more than four months. The court heard that as a result of the affair, the minor dropped out of school and moved in with the accused before the boy was rescued by police officers

“The boy was rescued on July 7, 2017 and the accused was arrested by police officers,” said Mukaya. After the rescue, he said, the boy was taken to a correctional facility before he was released back to his parents.

Parents of the boy told the court that their son stopped taking school seriously after he met the woman and they sought the intervention of the police after the boy started living with her. But in her defense, Wandera said that she did not know that the boy was a minor adding that he was a drug addict by the time they met.

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/art...ned-for-15-years-for-defiling-16-year-old-boy

Adult man sleeps with a 16 year old girl and gets her an abortion - gets life in prison:
Standard Media Kenya said:
One among 21 men accused of defiling teenage girl jailed for life

A mason was on Thursday jailed for life by a Kilungu law court for defiling a 16-year-old girl and later helping her to abort.

Nzomo Mang’ata, a relative of the girl, and 21 others not before the court, were said to have defiled the Standard Eight schoolgirl on different dates last year at Ilima Ward in Makueni County.

Senior Resident Magistrate Charles Muyamba yesterday found Mang'ata guilty of committing an indecent act with the child contrary to section II (I) of Sexual Offences Act. He was given 14 days to appeal.

A primary school head teacher and a Makueni County employee are also expected to appear before the same court on July 11 for hearing of their cases in connection with defiling the same minor.

That said, while we might ponder if the court cases above are something we're ready to swallow (no pun intended) yet, there are plenty of things that are universally done right over there and that I'm sure everyone sane would agree on having - can you imagine a tremendous sentence like this ever being handed out in our cucked pussy-pass-infested society?

Babysitter abuses a 6 year old boy, infects him with with a sexually transmitted disease - gets life in prison:
Standard Media Kenya said:
House girl, 22, to serve life for defiling 6-year-old boy, infecting him with STI

A 22-year-old house-help has been sent to life imprisonment for defiling a six-year-old boy in Migori County.

Neema Matiko Thomas, alias Aunty, was accused of defiling the minor at Central Kamagambo location in Rongo sub-county, Migori, last March 30.

She was said to have infected the minor with a sexually transmitted disease.

Rongo Senior Resident Magistrate Raymond Lang’at ruled that the house-help deserved no mercy, even after she pleaded for forgiveness and a lighter sentence.

The magistrate ruled that although Neema was a first offender, the offence she had committed required stiff punishment.

He said the accused not only defiled the boy but also made him sick. “The boy had to be put on medication, which had huge negative impact on him,” said Lang’at.

p.s. The age of consent in Kenya is 18. It has the capital punishment too, which is still handed out occasionally but no one has actually been executed since 1987. No doubt that in just slightly older times the last two cases would have received that too.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
We can't control what our disgusting Israeli occupied governments do but we can control ourselves and what we give our blessing to.

This is a peace I am trying hard to gather to myself. Nobody is obligated to shackle themselves to the degenerate society that surrounds them, but if they invite that degeneracy into their thoughts and actions then they are truly lost. In this case people invite degeneracy by toying with giving their blessing to lax enforcement of age of consent laws. This is how satanic liberalism destroys civilizations and the peoples that inhabit them. The devil gives you what degeneracy you accept and ignores your protests about other issues. Then he gives the other degenerates what they want and ignores them in their protests of what they would prefer to remain pure.

In the end all are consumed by their own vices and the vices of each other.

Age of consent laws might be enforced haphazardly or in some cases barely at all but you still control what happens between your own two ears and the works of your own two hands. Reject what the devil offers, no matter if he's tricked you into thinking it makes sense.
 
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