The Gab thread

DarkTriad

Ostrich
Gold Member
"Gab, a social media alternative to twitter/facebook that has a more open monetization policy, has been given notice that their domain will be seized within 5 days by their current registrar, an Australian company.

Gab was recently booted out of the Google Play store, and Gab filed a lawsuit against Google in response, alleging anti-trust violations.

Because Google/Facebook/Twitter have been shutting down accounts of even left-leaning people who dare to criticize the Left, people have been forced to go to alternatives like Gab, which as a result has since been labelled a "hate speech" site by the Left."

https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/18/16166240/gab-google-play-removed-hate-speechhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news...oogle-for-allegedly-violating-antitrust-laws/
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
RE: Gab is getting their Domain seized

It would be nice if Sessions could start paying attention there, assuming he's on our side on this issue...
 

Repo

Hummingbird
RE: Gab is getting their Domain seized

Expected. Why would Sessions give a shit about this though? You think the guy who wants to lock people up for decades over weed is going to stand up for a site that doesn't ban people for saying that the holocaust was justified?

Gab should have left it at not censoring political opinions rather than not censoring anything at all except direct threats, then maybe they would have a chance.
 
RE: Gab is getting their Domain seized

I'm still surprised they were able to shut down Stormfront. Racists or not, they were around forever, weren't they? That was a major win for the left I think.
 

GlobalMan

Hummingbird
Gold Member
RE: Gab is getting their Domain seized

What does Jeff sessions have to do with an Australian registrar citing Australian hate speech laws in canceling their account?

Even when this is happening in the USA, what federal laws are being broken for Jeff sessions to pursue?

It's no different than when people say "Why hasn't Trump done X!?" Because it has to be within the powers of their office and and consistent with current law.

It is indeed shitty and a terrible trend, but the only solution is legislation that in some way addresses this. As of now there is no clear violation of federal law (and certainly not of Australian law) when these companies are cancelling hosting or registrar services.
 

rpg

Ostrich
RE: Gab is getting their Domain seized

Time to roll out class action lawsuits. Paypal needs to be fucking crippled for discontinuing service at the behest of the adl and splc.
 

Number one bummer

Kingfisher
Gold Member
RE: Gab is getting their Domain seized

GlobalMan said:
What does Jeff sessions have to do with an Australian registrar citing Australian hate speech laws in canceling their account?

Even when this is happening in the USA, what federal laws are being broken for Jeff sessions to pursue?

The DOJ and FTC are in charge of pursuing anti-trust violations. Clearly an Australian registrar is not under the jurisdiction, but the limited amount of US service providers would. That being said, Sessions is not going to die on the hill for Anglin's and Vox's sperg fest. I fear its going to get a lot worse before we see anti-trust laws enforced.
 

Repo

Hummingbird
RE: Gab is getting their Domain seized

Maybe my understanding of the internet isn't very great, but aren't there dozens of domain registrars in the USA? How would anti trust come into play?
 

The Beast1

Peacock
Gold Member
RE: Gab is getting their Domain seized

Not surprised this was going to happen. The Gab guys were idiots to chose their hosting in a place like Australia.
 

GlobalMan

Hummingbird
Gold Member
RE: Gab is getting their Domain seized

What is the anti trust case to be made, based on the examples we've seen of these situations so far?

It is easy to just say "anti trust laws" but so far no one has articulated how these incidents have violated anti trust laws.
 

Number one bummer

Kingfisher
Gold Member
RE: Gab is getting their Domain seized

Repo said:
Maybe my understanding of the internet isn't very great, but aren't there dozens of domain registrars in the USA? How would anti trust come into play?

You could argue that web hosting/domain businesses are colluding to create a monopoly and discriminating against certain consumers. It would be easier if web hosting companies/domain dealers were labeled as utilities since there would be more protection for the consumers.

A few weeks ago, I would have said we are not at that point yet, but the collusion to deny service to Anglin's site is evident. Even the dark web with all its drug dealing and illegal porn would not host such "thought crime." This makes me concerned, but its still possible Anglin will find a home once the heat dies down.


FTC link of antitrust definitions and acts
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
RE: Gab is getting their Domain seized

The Beast1 said:
Not surprised this was going to happen. The Gab guys were idiots to chose their hosting in a place like Australia.

From what I understand, even the DailyStormer's Russian DNS dropped them like a hot rock.

This has nothing to do with jurisdictions and everything to do with (((the golden rule))).
 

GlobalMan

Hummingbird
Gold Member
RE: Gab is getting their Domain seized

Right now it is not even illegal to deny someone an apartment, for example, based on their political beliefs. It's not something that is included in the individual protections on a federal level. (It may be in some local jurisdictions). There are examples of this happening during the last year.

Denying the Stormfront guy hosting or gab hosting or you hosting based on socio-political beliefs seems to me a similar concept, and even less damaging than denying housing, so I don't see how there is any way to pursue federal charges under the law as it stands. (It may be possible for some of these people or groups to prevail in a civil suit based on various ancillary issues).

I think there would have to be new legislation for anything serious to be done about this type of thing. And even then I do not see what this legislation would be, the chances of hosting companies or registrars being declared public utilities is just about nil.

I don't think this issue is going to be resolved anytime soon unfortunately.
 

AnonymousBosch

Crow
Gold Member
RE: Gab is getting their Domain seized

The Beast1 said:
The Gab guys were idiots to chose their hosting in a place like Australia.

This is how ridiculous it gets. You're allowed to vote against Gay Marriage in Australia, but you're not freely-allowed to say why you oppose it without being very careful because that would be considered hate speech.

Which means, theoretically, if I linked a bunch of voters to the Gay Nazi Tumblr blogs I pointed out months back, with their predictable Satanism, Family Incest, White Power, HIV bug chasing and Kill All N***ers themes, and presented it as any kind of argument against gay marriage, I'd be the one charged with Hate Speech.

Australia's eternally-mediocre population does what it always does: sits on its arse and drinks beer.
 
RE: Gab is getting their Domain seized

Australian speech codes are more like Sweden or Canada than the United States. They are doing nothing but radicalizing the next generation by putting everyone in walled off ghettos of censorship.
 

Number one bummer

Kingfisher
Gold Member
RE: Gab is getting their Domain seized

GlobalMan said:
Right now it is not even illegal to deny someone an apartment, for example, based on their political beliefs. It's not something that is included in the individual protections on a federal level. (It may be in some local jurisdictions). There are examples of this happening during the last year.

Denying the Stormfront guy hosting or gab hosting or you hosting based on socio-political beliefs seems to me a similar concept, and even less damaging than denying housing, so I don't see how there is any way to pursue federal charges under the law as it stands. (It may be possible for some of these people or groups to prevail in a civil suit based on various ancillary issues).

I think there would have to be new legislation for anything serious to be done about this type of thing. And even then I do not see what this legislation would be, the chances of hosting companies or registrars being declared public utilities is just about nil.

I don't think this issue is going to be resolved anytime soon unfortunately.

I agree its not going to be resolved soon because like I said before, not even the slimiest (((lawyer))) is going to get killed in the court of public opinion for Anglin.

I think there is an argument to be made that since web hosting/domains is a limited business sector and not easy to enter, that it would be easy to form a colluded monopoly. If every apartment owner got together and said "hey, lets all not rent to these people since they are not protected by civil right's act." That would be collusion to form a monopoly, which could be argued in the case of web hosters.

This whole thing just sets a dangerous precedent for thought crime to be removed from the public scope.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
RE: Gab is getting their Domain seized

AnonymousBosch said:
The Beast1 said:
The Gab guys were idiots to chose their hosting in a place like Australia.

This is how ridiculous it gets. You're allowed to vote against Gay Marriage in Australia, but you're not freely-allowed to say why you oppose it without being very careful because that would be considered hate speech.

Which means, theoretically, if I linked a bunch of voters to the Gay Nazi Tumblr blogs I pointed out months back, with their predictable Satanism, Family Incest, White Power, HIV bug chasing and Kill All N***ers themes, and presented it as any kind of argument against gay marriage, I'd be the one charged with Hate Speech.

Australia's eternally-mediocre population does what it always does: sits on its arse and drinks beer.

What I'm finding interesting is the raft of demands that "if you vote no then don't come into my store/business/cafe/whatever".

That's an interesting take on prejudicial practice.

So I can tell a fag to fuck off and take his business elsewhere just as long as it's not because he's gay but instead because he voted for gay marriage?
 

Matt Forney

Woodpecker
RE: Gab is getting their Domain seized

The left didn't need to censor the right. Turns out the right was perfectly happy to censor and no-platform itself over ego-stroking and hurt feelings.

Every story like this vindicates my decision to stay out of the alt-media's neverending nervous breakdown.

On one side, you have Vox Day, a man so egomaniacal that he named himself "Voice of God," tying down Gab with a nuisance suit because his fee-fees were hurt, urging his midwit drones to report Gab to its domain registrar for "hate speech," then claiming he's doing it all to "strengthen" Gab against real opposition. Sure, bub. And if I punch my best friend in the face, then tell him I did it to test how well he could dodge a right hook, that'll totally make his black eye go away.

On the other, we have Andrew Anglin and the halfwit retards of the alt-right, who can't comprehend that we effectively live in the Soviet Union now and they need to shut their stupid mouths if they don't want to end up in the metaphorical gulag. It's cute how they talk about wanting a revolution yet expect that the system they want to overthrow will give a damn about their constitutional rights. When they aren't giving the rest of us civics lessons, they're busy trying to dox Vox and get him thrown in prison for "hate speech."

These two groups of dueling idiots just went and took a diarrhetic shit in the school sandbox because they didn't the fact that the other group was playing on the opposite side of it.

Not only have they killed Gab (I'm certain that once Gab has a new registrar, Vox and his minions will try something else), they're also killing alt-tech in general. These startups require money and personnel to function. Why would anyone invest in an alt-tech enterprise like Gab if some shrieking little girl like Vox Day can come along and wreck it over his hurt fee-fees? Why would any talented programmer risk social censure and irreversible career damage to work for an enterprise like Gab?

If people like Vox, Anglin, and their supporters are the best we can do to fight the globalists, white genocide is a mercy killing.
 
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