The Gab thread

Eusebius Erasmus

Kingfisher
Torba: Listen up here’s a story about a little “Christian” bank that wasted a month of my time and sold me on working together to build God’s Kingdom only to ban Gab for no stated reason after opening our account.

I was upfront with Evangelical Christian Credit Union (ECCU) before I even opened an account by explaining our entire business model and story, sending them months of bank statements, and having them chat with our processing partners to understand our business and plight.

I was told that they would be happy to work with a Christian man who was being shut out by the secular world. I opened an account, transferred a large sum of money as an initial deposit in good faith, and a few days later the account was shut down abruptly without reason.

Then they have the gaul (gall) to email me and tell me that I requested that the account be closed, which of course is false.

The most annoying part of the outright lies is how much time I wasted acting in good faith to work with them. I just need a simple business checking account to store our money in.

If I had to guess, the bank was pressured by Operation Chokepoint. If that was the case they should have simply told me so versus handling it the way they did.



Note: ECCU immediately set their Twitter page to private when Torba named them in his posts.
I can’t wait until ECCU starts putting LGBT flags all over its branches, and offering loans to women seeking abortions.

May the Lord rebuke them!
 

Hell_Is_Like_Newark

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Torba: Listen up here’s a story about a little “Christian” bank that wasted a month of my time and sold me on working together to build God’s Kingdom only to ban Gab for no stated reason after opening our account.

I was upfront with Evangelical Christian Credit Union (ECCU) before I even opened an account by explaining our entire business model and story, sending them months of bank statements, and having them chat with our processing partners to understand our business and plight.

I was told that they would be happy to work with a Christian man who was being shut out by the secular world. I opened an account, transferred a large sum of money as an initial deposit in good faith, and a few days later the account was shut down abruptly without reason.

Then they have the gaul (gall) to email me and tell me that I requested that the account be closed, which of course is false.

The most annoying part of the outright lies is how much time I wasted acting in good faith to work with them. I just need a simple business checking account to store our money in.

If I had to guess, the bank was pressured by Operation Chokepoint. If that was the case they should have simply told me so versus handling it the way they did.



Note: ECCU immediately set their Twitter page to private when Torba named them in his posts.
Maybe Torba should find an offshore bank in the Caribbean?
 

FactusIRX

Kingfisher
I admire Andrew's effort, but I don't think a dissent voice like him can have his own social network. Never in human society has the ruling class allowed dissident voices to speak clearly. I fear the only way dissidents can function in this New World is through forums like this and in decentralized groups on decentralized technologies. Other than that, we may need to go back to books and circulars. There's too many chokepoints for the ruling class to shut down a social network like Gab.
 

Papist

Robin
I admire Andrew's effort, but I don't think a dissent voice like him can have his own social network. Never in human society has the ruling class allowed dissident voices to speak clearly. I fear the only way dissidents can function in this New World is through forums like this and in decentralized groups on decentralized technologies. Other than that, we may need to go back to books and circulars. There's too many chokepoints for the ruling class to shut down a social network like Gab.

I don't have any expectations from Gab. It's a David vs Goliath battle, but we all know how that ended. I registered with Gab as an act of defiance.
 

budoslavic

Owl
Gold Member



Torba: Governor Abbott of Texas just put out a video on Twitter about Gab calling us an “anti-semitic platform.”

Gab is not an "anti-semitic" platform. We protect the political speech of all Americans, regardless of viewpoint, because in this age of cancel culture nobody else will.

That means unpopular viewpoints may be found on the site.

The enemies of freedom smear us with every name in the book because they hate America and they hate free speech. It's a shame to see a GOP politician fall for this trap when conservative values are under sustained attack all over the country.


 

budoslavic

Owl
Gold Member
The new definition for anti-semitism: anything the Jews don't own.

Whenever the USA's government officials visit Israel, there is no doubt they have been compromised by AIPAC. And Gov. Scott is compromised.

36b8eb49e32e21aa.jpeg

3885e79d28fa3b94.jpeg

ec5c2111ee772c5c.jpeg

b290ae0f79d102a7.jpeg
 

Gimlet

Kingfisher



Torba: Governor Abbott of Texas just put out a video on Twitter about Gab calling us an “anti-semitic platform.”

Gab is not an "anti-semitic" platform. We protect the political speech of all Americans, regardless of viewpoint, because in this age of cancel culture nobody else will.

That means unpopular viewpoints may be found on the site.

The enemies of freedom smear us with every name in the book because they hate America and they hate free speech. It's a shame to see a GOP politician fall for this trap when conservative values are under sustained attack all over the country.



Flying the Israeli flag? what a disgrace.
 

uncledick

Woodpecker
Torba has been posting the idea that Transhumanism is rampant in silicon valley alot lately.


Makes a regular joe think what the zuckerbergs, dorseys, bezos etc of the world are ultimately after... are they in active communion with satan? or some 4th or 5th dimensional beings? Do they want to become gods themselves and be immortal in machine form? Or have their minds transferred into some Ai storage unit until some form of technology can give them immortality? Do they want this planet pristine and to themselves and hope the rest of us die indirectly or directly by them or their handlers?

I'd really like to be a fly on the wall for some of conversations these demons have with each other.
 

Mountaineer

Pelican
Gold Member
Torba has been posting the idea that Transhumanism is rampant in silicon valley alot lately.


Makes a regular joe think what the zuckerbergs, dorseys, bezos etc of the world are ultimately after... are they in active communion with satan? or some 4th or 5th dimensional beings? Do they want to become gods themselves and be immortal in machine form? Or have their minds transferred into some Ai storage unit until some form of technology can give them immortality? Do they want this planet pristine and to themselves and hope the rest of us die indirectly or directly by them or their handlers?

I'd really like to be a fly on the wall for some of conversations these demons have with each other.
You are hitting the right nail. Satan cannot give them eternal life so they are trying to make themselves immortal in this world.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Kingfisher
Torba's latest piece:


I like Torba's other posts, but am not impressed by this one. It is a ramble, and he fails to identify a few truths:

1. There is no 'Western civilization' any more. It died a slow death, starting with the Enlightenment. Christianity's best hope is the original church: the Eastern Orthodox Church. Not the Western churches.
The only people who retain any sense of 'Western civilization' are LARPers who long for the glorious days of British empire, while revering homosexuals like T.E. Lawrence.

2. A lot of the Zoomers who identify as Christian nationalists just want to trigger their parents and teachers. Hopefully they end up in the right place, struggling to attain salvation, but being an immature troll isn't Christ-like.

3. The so-called 'refugee' agenda has been deleterious, since many of these people aren't fleeing real danger. However, as Christians we should take care of legitimate refugees.

4. I have no problem with Third World migration, provided we take in Christians. A moratorium on Third World migration prevents Ethiopian Orthodox, Coptics, and Malankara Christians from entering Western countries. This makes no sense.

5. Why the random attack on Young Earth Creationism? The question of exactly how the earth was created isn't important, since everything is ultimately a scientific 'theory' -- all that matters is the Genesis account.

6. What exactly has the Southern Baptist Convention done that is so vile? This seems uncharitable. The convention still maintains traditional views on abortion, marriage, and male leadership.
 

budoslavic

Owl
Gold Member
Forbes article: "For his part, Torba, the Gab founder, is adamant he wouldn’t go back to the bargaining table. “Gab’s not for sale,” he says. “There’s no amount that would get me to sell. Zero.

Trump Approached Conservative Media App Gab Before Announcing Plans To Start His Own App​

Almost immediately after Twitter and Facebook banned President Trump in January, Trump began to look for a way to get back onto social media.

One possible route: through Gab, a social network popular among conservatives. Trump had never been active on the site, but when his team thought about joining it in January, representatives of Jared Kushner, the president’s senior adviser and son-in-law, asked for equity in the company in exchange for Trump’s presence and voice on the platform, says Gab founder Andrew Torba. The offer was made over a telephone call, and Torba declined it: “The second it was brought up, it was, ‘No, I’m not entertaining that.’ ”

The former president is eager to return to social media, one of his most effective tools for building his political career and maintaining his base of support. But he’s being forced to go outside the mainstream platforms after the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol prompted Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and many others to expel him—pushing Trump toward niche sites like Gab. And the request for equity in Gab doesn’t seem to be the first time such an idea has circulated: Brad Parscale, then Trump’s campaign manager, tried to arrange a deal for equity in Parler in 2020 in exchange for Trump making the conservative social media app his primary outlet, according to BuzzFeed.

Trump never joined Gab or Parler. A spokesperson for Trump and Kushner wouldn’t comment for this story. Parscale and former Parler CEO John Matze didn’t respond to requests for comment.

On Sunday, spokesman Jason Miller told Fox News that Trump would launch his own social media network in about “two to three months,” touting it as the “the hottest ticket in social media.” Trump confirmed the news a day later, while offering no details on his plans. “I’m doing things having to do with putting our own platform out there that you’ll be hearing about soon,” he said, appearing on “The Truth with Lisa Boothe,” a right-leaning podcast.

Could Trump build a social media network from scratch? Maybe, but it would be challenging. Trump would need to contend with getting any new platform onto Apple and Google app stores and finding a web-hosting provider such as Amazon Cloud Services or Microsoft’s Azure cloud offering. But those companies have shown a growing reluctance to allow conservative apps to flourish using their technology. Both Apple and Google removed Parler, another popular right-wing social platform, from their stores after the January insurrection, while Amazon refused to host Parler on its cloud servers any longer.

Even if Trump could successfully woo Big Tech firms, it would almost certainly take longer than a couple months to build out anything more than the most rudimentary site. “I don’t see this thing really taking off unless they’re willing to invest a lot more two to three months—and a lot more money than I think they are probably willing to,” says Nina Jankowicz, who studies social media as a disinformation fellow at The Wilson Center’s Science and Technology Innovation Program.

Rather than build his own network, Trump could probably more easily buy one, then rebrand and expand it, and the overture to Gab is an indication that he may know it. Plus, Trump’s a guy who often buys instead of building. The real estate billionaire hasn’t erected a new skyscraper from scratch since the Trump International Hotel & Tower in Chicago, which opened its doors in 2009. More recently, he’s gravitated toward sprucing up properties like Trump National Doral resort in Florida and the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C., a former Post Office, and signing licensing deals on overseas locations that he doesn’t own.

He’d have the money to make it happen. The president’s Trump Organization has more than $100 million in cash, according to Forbes estimates. It still generates steady profits from commercial real estate holdings, even though they’ve strugged during the pandemic. What about debt? The company doesn’t have to start paying back its most troubled loans until 2023. And it would probably amount to no more than $5 million or so to get a social media site up and running, based on Pitchbook data on early stage funding deals within the industry over the past year,

The encounters with Gab and Parler show that Trump is finding resistance even among sites that share his politics. “It could not be more clear or well-documented how difficult it is to work with him,’’ says Cooper Teboe, a Democratic fundraising strategist in Silicon Valley. “I don’t think any entrepreneur, regardless of political orientation, wants to partner with someone who will take 49% control of their company on certain terms and conditions and then decide a month later he wants new terms and conditions.’’

As with all things Trump, the details around a purchase would almost certainly be fungible—whether he’d own it all or own it with other investors, whether he’d pay cash for it or take on debt.

Parler and Gab would be the most obvious targets for the simple fact they’re the biggest of their kind. (Parler had a little more than 10 million users before its shutdown, Gab reportedly around 3 million, numbers that nonetheless pale in comparison to the hundreds of millions on Twitter and Facebook.) But with negotiations having failed once with each, the president must now either rekindle talks with Parler or Gab or find a smaller home to buy. For his part, Torba, the Gab founder, is adamant he wouldn’t go back to the bargaining table. “Gab’s not for sale,” he says. “There’s no amount that would get me to sell. Zero.”

While it’s unclear exactly how Trump might build a social network, experts who studied his presence on Twitter, Facebook and the other large platforms think they have a pretty good idea what type of content would exist on a Trump-branded social app. “Hate speech,” says Leysia Palen, a University of Colorado Boulder computer science professor. “It’s going to be incredibly inflammatory. Very, very loud and noisy—and active.” Palen recently completed a months-long postmortem on Trump’s Twitter account, finding he averaged more than three dozen tweets daily. “And if it was 40 times a day when he was president, I think it’s going to be a lot more than that.”
 
Top