The Genesis Thread

GodfatherPartTwo

Kingfisher
Protestant
I initially thought of posting a Biblical hermeneutics thread but decided that interpreting the entire Bible would be too grandiose of a topic for only one thread and that for the learned and wise here to break down the Bible book by book would prove more efficient, I would especially love to see a Book of Revelation thread; there is no better place to start than with the book of Genesis.

So what do you guys think of Genesis and why?
 

GodfatherPartTwo

Kingfisher
Protestant
I personally believe Genesis to be a literal account of the Earths creation. I do not believe in the Gap Theory but am open to being proven wrong on that. I believe the Garden of Eden truly did exist and was not allegory. I believe Adam and Eve were two humans that actually did exist, Jesus even affirmed their literal existence in the Gospels. I believe the Flood account to be literal. The Tower of Babel. Abraham. Joseph as Vizier of Egypt. I believe all of it to the T but I know there are those who have their own takes on some of the details here and I would like to hear those.
 

Jive Turkey

Woodpecker
Other Christian
I'm no expert, but I love Genesis. It is interesting to ponder. I certainly believe that Father God created the world, universe, humans, etc. But was it exactly as laid out in Genesis, or does Genesis as it comes down to us contain elements of Jewish tradition. I find it interesting that the flood myth is universal, but the tale of the serpent and the garden is not (that I am aware of).

Primitive human cultures have excellent collective oral memories. There is a tribe of Australian aboriginals who told of a story of a flood occurring ~9,000 years ago, and referenced a part of the Australian island that sunk underwater from thereafter. This tale was still being handed down by the time modern western anthropologists got there in the 1900s.

It is also interesting how the Ancient Egyptians claimed that the sphinx and pyramids were thousands and thousands of years old in 3,000 BC. At the time just before Plato, his grandfather Solon visited the Egyptians, and I believe they told him the story of Atlantis flooding 9,000 years before him. So that would put the sinking of Atlantis at around 11,500 BC. Very close to some supposed asteroid impacts, such as the Younger Dryas impact. It is definitely an exciting theory to think about, so I have to admit my bias here.

In one of the first Orthodox sermons I ever listened to Father Seraphim Rose states that he believes the fruit of the tree of knowledge was contemplation, which is not safe for one to engage in until one is secure in their habits, and that eventually God would have allowed Adam and Eve to eat from the tree of knowledge. I'm not sure if this is a mainline Orthodox viewpoint.

I also went to a few Orthodox study sessions, and the priest there said that you don't have to believe the Earth is 6,000 years old to be Orthodox, and that you can believe in Neanderthals as well. Early hominids, however, I believe are a whole other branch of discussion that veer more off topic.
 

GodfatherPartTwo

Kingfisher
Protestant
Early hominids, however, I believe are a whole other branch of discussion that veer more off topic.
I hope people do bring that stuff up because the only place that fits in the Bible is Genesis if you ask me. Dinosaurs. Demonic bloodlines. Other planets with life. Cavemen. All are open to discussion in Genesis.

My thing is, people presuppose evolution, cavemen, dinosaurs, 6 billion old earth, etc. to be correct and try to make Genesis fit into that which is wrong. We should take the Bible as authoratively true first and make everything else fit into that. There's a good convo going on about this in the Dinosaur thread.
 

Jive Turkey

Woodpecker
Other Christian
I hope people do bring that stuff up because the only place that fits in the Bible is Genesis if you ask me. Dinosaurs. Demonic bloodlines. Other planets with life. Cavemen. All are open to discussion in Genesis.

My thing is, people presuppose evolution, cavemen, dinosaurs, 6 billion old earth, etc. to be correct and try to make Genesis fit into that which is wrong. We should take the Bible as authoratively true first and make everything else fit into that. There's a good convo going on about this in the Dinosaur thread.
I agree very strongly with people presupposing evolution and 6 billion year old earth. When I was in high school I tried to use the scientific method to study evolution, starting from a neutral position, with the assumption that I have no idea how the Earth began (I was agnostic/deistic back then). When I would ask teachers questions about the absurdity of evolution, such how did flight begin, and how did eyesight begin, they wouldn't even be able to fully understand my question, because they presupposed evolution had to be true, and that if something within the theory didn't make sense it was because some piece of evidence (the ever elusive "missing link") was yet to be discovered, but certainly would be discovered.

I'll go look in the dinsoaur thread, sounds very promising.
 
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