The God pill

[NoMoreTO]

Our Lord Jesus Christ says to us, "Remember Lot's wife" (Luke 17:32).

I found this preacher excellent, he retells the Genesis story, and applies the turning of Lots wife back and her turning to stone.

The preacher does not understand how Lot offered his daughters. I think the message is that the sin of sodom is so great that he did not want any more of it to take place, or it was an act of faith like Abraham?

 

[brucebayliss]

"Truther", Hugo Talks, shares his experience of coming to Jesus Christ. HT was referenced by Eric Clapton when Eric was looking for answers during the plandemic, so he's no tiddler.

Being a Bitchute video the comments are diabolical, but it's worth listening just to hear the story of his prayer to Jesus and how Jesus answered and His message regarding the evil events of the past few years being all about Him.

I interpret this as a reference to His second coming, which I've now heard so many times now, from many sources, is imminent. I believe it is. So pray often, and keep close to Jesus and Our Lady/Theotokos through devotion and the Sacraments.

"Truther", Hugo Talks, shares his experience of coming to Jesus Christ. HT was referenced by Eric Clapton when Eric was looking for answers during the plandemic, so he's no tiddler.

Being a Bitchute video the comments are diabolical, but it's worth listening just to hear the story of his prayer to Jesus and how Jesus answered and His message regarding the evil events of the past few years being all about Him.

I interpret this as a reference to His second coming, which I've now heard so many times now, from many sources, is imminent. I believe it is. So pray often, and keep close to Jesus and Our Lady/Theotokos through devotion and the Sacraments.

This recent concert footage had me wondering about Christ moving in Eric. Note the icon stage left.

 

[Fidem_Spes_Amare]

Also, I find it hard to believe that God would allow children to be killed randomly by car accidents and disease. How can this be part of
his plan? I understand with murder that this is a result of free will. But random death of innocent people? How can he allow this? It makes
me think this God must have a streak of cruelty.

The way I see it is, death was not part of God's original design in the Garden. But man chose to sin and was punished by hard, pointless toil and death, and everything else we find cruel and wrong about this fallen world. The point is that God chose some of his rebellious human children to be born again and receive a new nature, to be remade in the image of Christ and ultimately inherit salvation and eternal life. It is not unjust of God to allow some of his rebellious children to suffer the consequences of their fallen nature, namely to suffer and die in this fallen world in various "random" ways. It is supremely just and kind how God took the punishment upon himself for His chosen, in order to redeem them from certain death, which they had rightly earned.

 

[Sooth]

God destroying Sodom was an act of Mercy. They were so far gone that they were digging themselves deeper and deeper down the levels of eternal damnation.

The message from the preacher was good. "Don't look back".

 

[Fidem_Spes_Amare]

This is a good explanation. However, doesn't it seem unfair to punish all creatures, even other species even ones not yet born, for the actions of 2 individuals?

Also, some people do try to avoid killing anything and want other animals to follow this rule as well. However, a kitten nearly died because it was given a vegan diet. Perhaps a vegetarian diet (with milk) would be enough cats as well as for tigers, lions, and other predators to live on if they were captured and forced to adapt such a diet until they no longer craved meat (which may take several generations). This would be interesting to see if the problem of species killing each other could be fixed as an experiment to see if we can make the world more as God intended although it definitely wouldn't be easy. I am unsure if it would be as healthy or not.

When North Korea's leader punishes 3 generations for the crimes of one person, people criticize him as overly harsh and unfair because only the person who commits the crime should be punished. However, when God does this it is seen as acceptable. This is something that has troubled me.

Also, I get the idea that Adam and Eve disobeyed God. However, the punishment is quite harsh when one thinks about it. Many criticized the punishment of the California man who spent several years in prison for stealing a piece of pizza. However, God was much harsher towards 2 people that committed a similar crime and it seems like they could have just been beat and forced to ensure hard labor for a few months and given another chance. Even cutting off a finger or even a hand would have been a lighter punishment than what they faced (and don't forget the unborn descendants).

Imagine a leader that punished all subjects and their descendants if one single male and one single female steal a piece of fruit, this leader would be considered overly harsh.

There are many things that God should be admired for and I am not trying to be offensive. I am just thinking how God would be viewed if he were the ruler of a nation and had the same positive qualities but also the same harsh side as well.

The point is for you to understand how bad sin is. God punishes disobedience against Him severely because that is how bad it is. You are not the one to make judgments about how bad sin is. You did not create the universe and everything in it.

Also a human ruler is not a correct comparison to God. A human ruler is a sinner himself. God only is without sin, and His punishment on our willful, knowing sin, after we had been blessed with perfection and bliss in the garden, is His own to decide.

I believe every word of the Bible is literally true, but it's obvious there is an allegory here to each one of our lives. We are not being punished because we are only descendants of Adam, as if we ourselves had never sinned. We share the same nature as Adam and are rebellious ourselves, therefore deserve the same judgment. God's infinite kindness is accepting this punishment on Himself in order to save those of us whom He chose.

And as to those He did not choose, Joshua 11:20 would suffice, "For it was the Lord's doing to harden their hearts that they should come against Israel in battle, in order that they should be devoted to destruction and should receive no mercy but be destroyed."

Or Romans 9:20-22, "But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, 'Why have you made me like this?' Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy?"

Not all are chosen by God to receive the free gift of spiritual rebirth. Those of us who have been so chosen will show the fruits in our lives as we are regenerated, as no good tree bears bad fruit, and God changes our nature to the core. I believe even God's chosen have the free will to reject that gift, as did Judas.

 

[Grow Bag]

This recent concert footage had me wondering about Christ moving in Eric. Note the icon stage left.

I noticed it too today and found your post. Listening to Eric since 2020, where he has spoken of the wickedness he has witnessed with CV19, vaxxes, etc., It would be wonderful if he has come to Christ as a consequence. Please God let it so.

 

[Viktor Zeegelaar]

Our Lord Jesus Christ says to us, "Remember Lot's wife" (Luke 17:32).

I found this preacher excellent, he retells the Genesis story, and applies the turning of Lots wife back and her turning to stone.

The preacher does not understand how Lot offered his daughters. I think the message is that the sin of sodom is so great that he did not want any more of it to take place, or it was an act of faith like Abraham?

I was cycling trough a big Dutch city this afternoon, and literally asked meself the question, is this worse than Sodom and Gomorrah? The overal nihilistic appearance and complete and utter lack of God made me conclude that I can't imagine that Sodom adn Gomorrah was worse than what I saw on a regular Friday afternoon. I think we've surpassed in Western big cities whatever Sodom and Gomorrah was.

 

[infowarrior1]

This Pagan who saw past the vax and unapologetic Heathen speaks about the European movement towards Paganism:

 

[Viktor Zeegelaar]

Interesting video.

 

[Roosh]

This is also a good video that covers the basics of Orthodox theology:

 

[Cynllo]

Noticing an increasing number of references to God, Jesus in offstream fin media. Example, Jim Rickards, who is a politically engrossed Trumper and permabear.



Several times his normal interaction rate.

Also noticing the same in general and IRL.

The sodomy system is making people seek answers elsewhere.

 

[TrainedLogosmotion]

One type of God pill that can be presented to those in doubt is Creation being trans-rational, or beyond reason.

For example, God creating the universe is trans-rational, beyond reason. This is a 'reason' athiests quarrel against it.

In that, they deem it a nonsensical impossibility.

But the part they miss is that God Himself is beyond reason, therefore capable of being trans-rational. He is outside of Creation.

Funnily enough, the big bang is also trans-rational, beyond reason. But athiests accept this and base their whole worldview around it.

A mathematical impossibility, utterly nonsensical, that leads to despair and hopelessness. No unmoved mover (God), but just 'nothingness'. Lol.

Why would we exist at all then? Without God life doesn't make any sense. It's pointless.

 

[ginsu]

Why would we exist at all then? Without God life doesn't make any sense. It's pointless.

Exactly, to exist in this very moment, taking in the miracle of life. Apreciating its beauty that is the point and that is gods work. But its impossible to explain that to my younger self or anyone else who isnt there yet. its something you start feel and know without thinking or rationalizing

Atheism is pessimism, nothing has meaning, love is just chemicals in your brain tricking you, beauty only serves to drive procreation, art is just about power and sex. I dont understand why any mature man would make arguments for this world view, its like arguing for depression. How does this way of thinking improve the quality of anyones life ?. What does someone gain to succeed in ''winning'' the argument that god does not exist, you only shoot yourself in the foot. Congratulations you have proven that life has no meaning even if you gain this victory you can't enjoy it.

I guess that to transcend atheism you need to be able to let go of control, to submit to a power greater than yourself and to let go of your ego. In a maybe counter intuitive way you actually gain more peace, power and certainty through submission to god while clinging on to the former you never arrive there

I'm still ashamed at my teenage self who told my christian teacher to read some book from richard dawkins making pro atheism arguments, she just gave me a warm smile. I wish i could meet her again someday and tell her ive changed

 

[Viktor Zeegelaar]

One type of God pill that can be presented to those in doubt is Creation being trans-rational, or beyond reason.

For example, God creating the universe is trans-rational, beyond reason. This is a 'reason' athiests quarrel against it.

In that, they deem it a nonsensical impossibility.

But the part they miss is that God Himself is beyond reason, therefore capable of being trans-rational. He is outside of Creation.

Funnily enough, the big bang is also trans-rational, beyond reason. But athiests accept this and base their whole worldview around it.

A mathematical impossibility, utterly nonsensical, that leads to despair and hopelessness. No unmoved mover (God), but just 'nothingness'. Lol.

Why would we exist at all then? Without God life doesn't make any sense. It's pointless.

Nothing makes sense in the atheist paradigm. The only thing the atheist is consistent in is his inconsistency and hypocrisy. That's overall one of the strongest arguments for Christianity - the continuity and consistency.

I like Dyer's transcendental argument. God is the basis for objective claims about reality. Without God, there is no basis for objective claims about reality. Every atheist has this chink in his ''armor'': he can't account his foundation for universal claims. So his arguments are always prone to change. The atheist typically will make strong claims about right/wrong, without having any foundation for it. There's no reason in the atheist paradigm to be against murder: based on what? Who says that the morals of the Mongols are inferior to morals of pacifists? Who says a long and peaceful life is better than a shortlived and intense life? Who says comfort of the many should be the goal, while one can easily argue like the Stoics and many religions have done that going against comfort is the way to go? The atheist can't make any of these claims based on an objective foundation.

All the things he will mention as justifyer are changeable, such as majority consensus, what the experts say, what the science says. I saw the debate between Dyer and TJump the other day, where the latter's argument was ''God doesn't exist because the experts say so''. The atheist will be so convinced of his delusion that he'll be unable to critically assess such a statement. First of all for a truth claim it's not contingent on expert consensus, second it's unclear what an expert is, third it is contingent upon which fields you'd assess, fourth it's contingent on the countries you'd assess, fifth it's highly contextual in a certain time period for 100 years ago the ''expert consensus'' would be that God would exist, and maybe in 10 years again. If the experts say tomorrow that God exists, then suddenly he exists? No objective basis for truth claims! And they can't even see it. Moreover, if we appeal to consensus, then 85% of the world is still religious, and in most countries the ''expert consensus'' whatever that is would be that God does exist. There's so much holes in any atheist argument and aspect of his worldview that it's like a Dutch cheese with holes, it's mindbending and to be fair on a too low intellectual level to even go against sometimes, for there's so many angles you can take against it that you can get overwhelmed. They've only stumped religious society by bluff and having a big mouth, creating noise and taking action: they have nothing to back it up. By the way a funny thing Dyer always does is that he says: are there objective truth claims? The atheist obviously will answer no, which is an objective truth claim in itself. There is no objective truth claim is an objective truth claim. But they're unable intellectually and spiritually to even understand it.

Atheists can't see logic and reason. Their nous is so clouded that they're completely blinded to any reality of this world, and therefore they fall for everything, the most grievous lies, hook, line and sinker, while wallowing in prideful ignorance.

 

[Easy_C]

The point is for you to understand how bad sin is. God punishes disobedience against Him severely because that is how bad it is. You are not the one to make judgments about how bad sin is. You did not create the universe and everything in it.

Also a human ruler is not a correct comparison to God. A human ruler is a sinner himself. God only is without sin, and His punishment on our willful, knowing sin, after we had been blessed with perfection and bliss in the garden, is His own to decide.

I believe every word of the Bible is literally true, but it's obvious there is an allegory here to each one of our lives. We are not being punished because we are only descendants of Adam, as if we ourselves had never sinned. We share the same nature as Adam and are rebellious ourselves, therefore deserve the same judgment. God's infinite kindness is accepting this punishment on Himself in order to save those of us whom He chose.

And as to those He did not choose, Joshua 11:20 would suffice, "For it was the Lord's doing to harden their hearts that they should come against Israel in battle, in order that they should be devoted to destruction and should receive no mercy but be destroyed."

Or Romans 9:20-22, "But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, 'Why have you made me like this?' Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy?"

Not all are chosen by God to receive the free gift of spiritual rebirth. Those of us who have been so chosen will show the fruits in our lives as we are regenerated, as no good tree bears bad fruit, and God changes our nature to the core. I believe even God's chosen have the free will to reject that gift, as did Judas.

I'd also add, that to some extent we do this to ourselves. Three generations is about how long it takes for a society or family to recover from any of the kinds of sins that have severe spiritual or physical consequences.

 

[Lawrence87]

Atheists can't see logic and reason. Their nous is so clouded that they're completely blinded to any reality of this world, and therefore they fall for everything, the most grievous lies, hook, line and sinker, while wallowing in prideful ignorance.

Their reaction is quite interesting when you get them in a corner with this stuff.

I think a lot of atheists (at least those inclined to argue about the matter) do so because they like the feeling of having people on the ropes. And they can do that so long as you grant them the paradigm.

If you ask for their justification for using their paradigm they flail around like obstinate retards. I had an atheist unironically justify the external world by saying "It seems pretty real when I take a dump" (forgive me, they expressed it much more crudely).

 

[paternos]

Yesterday, I delved deeper into the French Revolution, a pivotal moment in the decline of Christianity and the emergence of atheism and agnosticism.

In 1793 the revolutionairies took control of the Catholic Church in France, confiscated the churches, killing clergy, replacing it with an entity known as the "Cult of Reason". This institution, as referenced in this Wikipedia article, marked France's state-sponsored atheistic religion, intended to supplant Roman Catholicism.

The Cult of Reason transformed the churches into "Temples of Reason", becoming a place for discussing philosophy and science. It even organized festivals and ceremonies extolling reason and the principles of the French Revolution. However, their reign was short-lived. By 1794, the "Cult of the Supreme Being" took over, as described in this article.

These two years appear to be the cradle where atheism and agnosticism were nurtured and born.

The 18th century paved the way towards this revolutionary shift. Enlightenment ideas began to permeate society, fueling the drive for revolution and challenging the monopoly of a single monarch and a dominant church. The Freemasons played a pivotal role in this transformative period.

Freemasonry came up strongly the in the 18 century and it consists of lodges of up to 30 men, and I think (and most Popes) the principles it adheres to are fundamentally anti-Christian and "enlightened":

• The symbolic Marble Block in every Freemasonry lodge represented the notion of us being rough stones, needing to be shaped by ourselves and polished to coexist harmoniously with our brothers. This belief directly contradicts the Christian teaching that we are all sinners, utterly reliant on God's grace despite our best efforts to better ourselves.
• Freemasonry promoted the comparison of ideas on worldly matters and fostered an environment where multiple truths could exist. This idea is antithetical to the monotheistic belief that God is the singular Truth.
• Freemasonry placed fraternity at its core, a concept divergent from Christian teachings which position God at the center. While brotherhood might lead to God, it should not be the ultimate goal.
• By referring to a "Supreme Being" instead of God, Freemasonry subtly distanced itself from Christian principles.

In retrospect, it appears that this period initiated the wave of confusion that continues to this day. The French Revolution marked a turning point in the decline of Christianity and the rise of atheism and agnosticism.

 

[Viktor Zeegelaar]

Their reaction is quite interesting when you get them in a corner with this stuff.

I think a lot of atheists (at least those inclined to argue about the matter) do so because they like the feeling of having people on the ropes. And they can do that so long as you grant them the paradigm.

If you ask for their justification for using their paradigm they flail around like obstinate retards. I had an atheist unironically justify the external world by saying "It seems pretty real when I take a dump" (forgive me, they expressed it much more crudely).

They only operate on bluff indeed. The person with the biggest mouth typically gets the most followers and momentum in society. By going against humble, friendly, kind Christians it wasn't really a true equal game from the start one could say. Since they have no morals they have no boundaries and therefore go way further than religious people to steer society and discussions. But indeed it's all a mirage. They have 0 justification for anything and live a miserable daily reality. But they're not interested in understanding and adapting anyway: they only wanna rage. Despite their own life typically being in shambles: in their pride they'll do anything to avoid changing direction, even if that direction is the cliff. They are deeply unfulfilled and discontent people, but even in that situation they're completely unwilling to change their belief system and therefore their day to day reality. It's demonic possession pur sang.

 

[Lawrence87]

They only operate on bluff indeed. The person with the biggest mouth typically gets the most followers and momentum in society. By going against humble, friendly, kind Christians it wasn't really a true equal game from the start one could say. Since they have no morals they have no boundaries and therefore go way further than religious people to steer society and discussions. But indeed it's all a mirage. They have 0 justification for anything and live a miserable daily reality. But they're not interested in understanding and adapting anyway: they only wanna rage. Despite their own life typically being in shambles: in their pride they'll do anything to avoid changing direction, even if that direction is the cliff. They are deeply unfulfilled and discontent people, but even in that situation they're completely unwilling to change their belief system and therefore their day to day reality. It's demonic possession pur sang.

I think some atheists are genuine truth-seekers, for many it seems to be a pitstop on the way.

When I look back on my atheism phase, I can see that God was disabusing me of various things that would hinder my future conversion. Things like certain Western ideas about God, like He is this angry God who killed His own Son to appease Himself of His own anger. The Orthodox notion that Christ's sacrifice was done completely out of love in order to overcome death makes much more sense. I needed to get rid of all those ideas before I could let Him come into my life as He is. Being an atheist helped me see through bad theological ideas about the Christian God.

There was undoubtedly a lot of pride in me at the time, as there still is. The familial element was a big factor too, and I imagine it is for many. My parents are Christians, so in a lot of ways my atheism was a way of carving out a path away from them.

I suspect the rage that atheists display when you don't grant their presuppositions is their rage against God. Many are wrestling with God, and when theists grant their presuppositions they feel that they are prevailing in this struggle. When you challenge it, it opens them up to the pain of their struggle. For this reason I think there is hope for them.

 

[Sandalwood Peak]

Not sure if it's the right thread but came across some interesting material about ancient Chinese. Also them noticing various Christianity-related events, most notably through astronomy. Obviously I'm not promoting letting people and "proof" guide your faith but interesting regardless.



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