The God pill

Aurini

Ostrich
Kid Twist said:
Nothing lasts forever in this world, but it turns out that Christian integrity (vis a vis societies, countries, or large groups of people) depends on not allowing "arguments" to take hold in the first place. In this I mean ceding power to totally asinine and obviously destructive elements to a society. What has transpired in the West is precisely that ... the indifference in countering really destructive ways of thought for humans, things that we already knew would cause such chaos from history, our forefathers, times past, etc.

The Amish were right in that they maintained the proper role of elders, who were virtuous men that decided on what was proper for the people. The West threw this structure and thinking away, and chaos ensued.

This is why the "Islam is Right About Women" move - as amusing as it might be to see the Liberal hypocrisy so rankly exposed - is ultimately doomed to failure. It's just more contentiousness and rabble rousing. Those who are bringing endless division and argument to us are neither Christian, nor a force for restoring Western Civilization.
 

NoMoreTO

Hummingbird
Catholic
The priest told a story last night about the wonders of the sacrament of confession. I think I have it 95% right but I am repeating from memory.

A priest in Omaha gets a frantic call from a relative to go to Room 316(?) in a hospital in another town to deliver last rights. He drives in the middle of the night to get there. He gets to the room and the guy has a broken leg. The guy says "Yeah, I just broke my leg", but yeah I should talk to a Priest. The Priest then talks to the guy, and ends up taking his confession and I think administering to him the blessed sacrament.

The priest then drives all the way back to the seminary. There is a message on his machine that the man was still at the hospital waiting for his last rights. There was a miscommunication on the room number or something(?). So the priest drives back. When he arrives the man is actually improving. While he is there, he goes to check on the broken leg guy. He is dead, his leg was infected.
 

Pinkman

 
Banned
Tranny takes the God Pill. Good news (except for the frogs who'll turn gay from that flushed down estrogen).

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Sword and Board

 
Banned
Catholic
^^^ The masses are constantly bombarded with ISIS, North Korean nukes, Assad regime gassing his people, Iran nukes, Russian political meddling, white supremacism, Trump gets two scoops of icecream you only get one, Jewish victimhood, Chinese influence etc

The gigantic (((elephant))) in the room as pointed out by E. Michael Jones goes unnoticed or just by shear cowardice no one speaks of it.

The most saddening of all is even sites like this after all this time and what we have witnessed are filled with subversives that try to point us in different directions and people that refuse to believe.

Until we are all on the same page and not divided. collaboration or addressing solutions is almost impossible. Our enemy knows this well.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
My main inner conflict these days stems from not knowing whether it's God's will that this earth be a mess or whether any of us should take the time to attempt to "correct" it.

If the latter, then to what extent? I know I'm responsible for me and my family, and to an extent my community, but what about my peoples or my nation (a transient concept, but bear with it).

Should I be a vocal/physical resistor against the grabblers and their influence or should I simply relinquish this world to the devil?
 

worldwidetraveler

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Leonard D Neubache said:
My main inner conflict these days stems from not knowing whether it's God's will that this earth be a mess or whether any of us should take the time to attempt to "correct" it.

If the latter, then to what extent? I know I'm responsible for me and my family, and to an extent my community, but what about my peoples or my nation (a transient concept, but bear with it).

Should I be a vocal/physical resistor against the grabblers and their influence or should I simply relinquish this world to the devil?

I can only speak for myself here, but the way I worked through many of these issues was first figuring out my beliefs when it comes to God. My beliefs are very different in many ways to what most religions teach. I do tend to agree on what Jesus taught but not much else.

With those beliefs came a feeling of peace. A lot of stuff just wasn't as important any longer. I understood why I am here and what I need to do to make the most out of my time here.

My spiritual growth is my sole purpose here. Many of society's issues are merely a distraction to my purpose. I would go as far as to say that many issues will have a negative impact on my goal.

Do I risk my spiritual growth to deal with those negative aspects? That is a absolute no on that.

I can tell when I am concentrating on the wrong things. That peaceful feeling leaves and I feel all sorts of feelings that is contrary to my end goal. That is why I try and spend time reminding myself of why I am here and what I need to accomplish. That helps center me when I get too involved in politics or society in general. It's a constant battle and it may come to a point where I avoid all the news and politics all together. In all honesty that is probably where I should be heading.

I believe in heaven and I believe we will all end up there. No matter what we do here. So with that belief a lot of issues that would have been a problem aren't as big of a deal for me. This life is a blink in the grand scheme of our existence.
 

scorpion

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Leonard D Neubache said:
My main inner conflict these days stems from not knowing whether it's God's will that this earth be a mess or whether any of us should take the time to attempt to "correct" it.

If the latter, then to what extent? I know I'm responsible for me and my family, and to an extent my community, but what about my peoples or my nation (a transient concept, but bear with it).

Should I be a vocal/physical resistor against the grabblers and their influence or should I simply relinquish this world to the devil?

It's very easy to get caught up in the day to day struggles of life and feel hopeless about the direction of the world, and at that point is it helpful to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. The Christian worldview is essentially this: the world was created perfect but then fell into a state of sin and corruption due to man's rebellion against God. Jesus Christ came into the world in order than man might be reconciled back into the Kingdom of God. However, the world itself remains in a fallen state, and will only grow increasingly corrupt until Christ makes his final return, at which point all evil will be forever vanquished and the Kingdom of God will be made manifest in the new heavens and earth. Until that day comes, however, Christians remain citizens of two states: the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Earth. And being that Satan currently has dominion over the Earth, we cannot expect that our remaining time here will be without trial and tribulation. This is the state in which we find ourselves.

That being the case, what is the duty of the Christian in the fallen world? Are we to actively wage violent, physical war against the armies of Satan? Are we to seek to overthrow all worldly rulers and replace them with Christian kings? No. Not at all. Christ specifically instructed that we are to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and unto God that which is God's (Matt. 20:21). Paul similarly exhorts us in Romans 13 that we are to submit to the governing authorities, because governments were instituted by God as the means by which general order is best maintained in society. In other words, the fact that Satan exerts control over the machinery of government does not give us license to rebel against governments themselves, as governments are simply tools of order for the maintenance of human life.

The Christian is instead called to battle in spiritual warfare. He is called to resist the Devil (James 4:7), he is called to love God and his neighbor (Matt. 22:36-40), he is called to raise up his children in a godly manner (Prov. 22:6), he is called to condemn sinful behavior when he sees it (1 Tim. 5:20), he is to be kind and forgiving toward others (Eph. 4:32). In short, the Christian is called to behave himself as much as possible in the image of Christ. Did Christ take up the sword against Rome? To the contrary, he allowed himself to be crucified. The Jews expected their Messiah to destroy the Romans and raise up a new kingdom. They didn't understand that the kingdom being raised up was spiritual, not physical (they still don't). They wanted the immediate gratification of Christ raising up an army and slaughtering the Roman legions. That was the only victory they could envision. But God had other plans - he worked through men: through preaching, through humble Christian living, through martyrdom, and above all, through enduring faith. And so it was that Rome was conquered by Christ, not by the sword, but by the successive influence of countless Christians who simply did their best to live as Christ did. The ultimate victory is always and only to be found in humbling ourselves to the will of God and allowing his plans to unfold.

And we must understand that history unfolds according to God's plan and timeline. All of us merely play a very small part in it, and we do what we can. But everything will ultimately play out according to the will of God. Our duty is simply to maintain our faith and act in a Christlike manner in our sphere of influence. This may sound like an admission of defeat, but the irony is that if everyone actually did this then the world would be instantly transformed more completely than any conquering army could ever manage, and Satan would be powerless to stop it.

The Christian is essentially tasked with fighting a long, losing battle. We fight knowing that we will ultimately be defeated by death and overwhelmed by the evil of the world. But we fight still, with a joyful heart, having faith that though we ourselves may fall, the ultimate victory shall be won by Christ, and we will share in it when we are raised up on the last day.
 

debeguiled

Peacock
Gold Member
Leonard D Neubache said:
My main inner conflict these days stems from not knowing whether it's God's will that this earth be a mess or whether any of us should take the time to attempt to "correct" it.

If the latter, then to what extent? I know I'm responsible for me and my family, and to an extent my community, but what about my peoples or my nation (a transient concept, but bear with it).

Should I be a vocal/physical resistor against the grabblers and their influence or should I simply relinquish this world to the devil?

I find one of the most comforting aspects of Christianity is the idea that God knows each one of us intimately, and created each of us for a purpose.

As men we naturally feel compelled not only to take care of those close to us, we also feel like it is our responsibility to keep apprised of the macro picture, keeping up on politics and what is behind it.

Personally, I have found that when Jesus says that taking his yoke to find rest for our souls, it applies to this conundrum in particular.

The more you pray, and the more you listen, to more he opens up to you and reveals his plans for you, and when this is the case, you can just let all the rest fall away and focus on what he wants.

Not everyone is called to figure out geo-politics, or to get involved even in local politics for the simple reason that they are suited for something else. Not everyone can care for the sick and dying, or listen to the stories of the lonely, or just sit in a hospital room, hour after hour, keeping vigil over the dying.

Could you imagine Alex Jones working in a hospice?

tl;dr you're asking the wrong crowd. take your question to the top.
 

Roosh

Cardinal
Orthodox
I talked to an abbot about this, and also other clergy. Their advice is similar: if you're in communion with God, His will for you (outside of following the general commandments) will be obvious to you in time. Specific doors will keep closing and other doors will keep opening. The path will be laid out for you and you just have to follow it, though it may take several years until that path is clear.
 
In the Lord's prayer, said thrice daily by the early Christians, we pray "Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven." We're citizens of heaven, and it's something we've got to spread.

If American Christians, as a group, start acting like we're Christians the US would change dramatically. Simple things - choosing not to fund businesses that hate our guts, treating everyone around us as if they're Christ, donating our time and money to the Church, and speaking the truth in love. Christianity has to be something we do, rather than just something we believe. James said, "Show me your faith apart from works, and I'll show you my faith by my works."

If we continue to spend our time exactly like the nonbelievers spend theirs - content with our sports and Netflix shows and other prolefeed, we will disappear while the country gets immeasurably worse.
 

Sword and Board

 
Banned
Catholic
Leonard D Neubache said:
My main inner conflict these days stems from not knowing whether it's God's will that this earth be a mess or whether any of us should take the time to attempt to "correct" it.

If the latter, then to what extent? I know I'm responsible for me and my family, and to an extent my community, but what about my peoples or my nation (a transient concept, but bear with it).

Should I be a vocal/physical resistor against the grabblers and their influence or should I simply relinquish this world to the devil?

I had a very similar confliction. I grew tired of the fight so to speak. I felt frustrated and weighted down with heavy thoughts on the matter and that nothing I could do will change anything for the good.

As weird as it sounds I had feelings of being spiritually attacked, strange things were also happening in my life and just a hopelessness came over me I didn't want to bear anymore.

So I decided I would step off and join the world of normies. Ignorance is bliss so they say. I would still follow god, but I would stay out of any and all political/religious or social commentary and just concentrate on my own personal comfort and fulfilment.

Besides the cringe and biting your tongue moments its a relatively very easy way to live. At the same time though I felt selfish. The world is going to hell yet here I am getting mine and to hell with everyone else.

I prayed to god if what I was doing was right. I prayed for him to show me the way. I believe he showed me. Twice actually as I didn't believe the first time.

I hope you find your answer mate.
 

Wutang

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Witches and occultists are trying to cast spells on Trump:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...mp-opponents-plan-halloween-spell-to-bind-him

The spell is crafted “to bind Donald Trump and all those who abet him," and is supposed to be performed during every waning crescent moon until Trump is removed from office.

The ritual calls for the use of an unflattering photo of Trump, a tarot card, a stub of an orange candle, a pin, and a feather. Participants then call on the "heavenly hosts, demons of the infernal realms, and spirits of the ancestors" to bind Trump "so that his malignant works may fail utterly."

Article mentions that wicca/paganism is growing And why?

Hughes said that a desire for a more direct spirituality, is driving the popularity of paganism and witchcraft.

“They’re embracing spiritual paths, spiritual ideas that allow them to be empowered in their spirituality without that middleman,” such as a priest or rabbi, said Hughes.

Does that sort of attitude seem familiar? This sounds like something that could have come directly from Mage. This same general attitude isn't just something found in occult circles. Rather, it's the default attitude for most people today whether they are a New Age type or a completely secular, humanistic rational type. The only difference with the latter is that they'll replace the occult language with phrases such as "maximum human thriving" and "human dignity and autonomy".

Michael Witcoff wrote an article on RoK once where he mentions the Devil doesn't need you to be drawing pentagrams on your wall in order for him to win. He just needs you to not worship God. This can achieved in a number of ways and can be adapted to different personality types whether it be a Tumblr wicca kiddie or some Reddit Carl Sagan quoting neckbeard. These two attitudes might seem like complete opposites and the Wiccan and autist atheist would have nothing but contempt for each other but that have one vital thing in common: pride in their own powers and their ability to acquire knowledge to raise themselves to godhood even though the forms of knowledge would be different for each type of person. Ultimately they are both forms of gnosticism - one of the oldest and most commonly reoccurring heresies.
 

Tail Gunner

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Vladimir Poontang said:
Who are some good preachers? Ones that come to mind are John Piper, Tony Evans and Chad Ripperger. It's funny to watch John Piper, he preaches like he's in love.

If you want to read the best poets, do you read the best modern poets -- or the great poets of the past. The choice is yours, of course, but in regard to sermons do you seek modern entertainment with some insight or true discernment that has stood the test of time?

Charles Spurgeon was an English Baptist preacher who remains highly influential among Christians of various denominations, among whom he is known as the "Prince of Preachers". His sermons are available online:

https://www.spurgeongems.org/sermons.htm


You can also read the early church fathers and, if Protestant, great preachers such as Spurgeon and Jonathan Edwards.
 
Vladimir Poontang said:
Who are some good preachers? Ones that come to mind are John Piper, Tony Evans and Chad Ripperger. It's funny to watch John Piper, he preaches like he's in love.

I do like John Piper and Fr. Chad, although I'm not familiar with Tony Evans.

For more intellectual listening, I enjoy N.T. Wright. He's a bit bluepill sometimes, but he's not a charlatan. Sort of the Henry Rollins of modern Christianity. His book about the resurrection, Surprised by Hope is the reason I'm a Christian.

I also like Hank Hanegraaff, the Bible Answer Man. His content is always excellent, and he's a square-jawed real American if there ever was one. Also, in the last two years he joined the Orthodox Church -seriously damaging his career- and got cancer. He could use some prayers.
 

NoMoreTO

Hummingbird
Catholic
Peter Helland dropping some serious God Pills on Women and the USA. He draws a lot from the old testament.
- Women didn't call their husband by his first name until recently
- Fathers had complete control over their daughters, and who they married. And have complete control today based on authority from God. If you don't accept a husband, you must disown your daughter.
- South pushed for "In Jesus Christ we Trust" as American motto, but it got weakend down to "In God we Trust"
- Any pushback on legitimacy of kings, is disobedience to God.

We tend to think of the inversion of my own life, or compare back tot he 50s, but he always says something along the lines of: "This might seem so strange to you, but your great grandfather would agree with me"

 
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