The gun control debate

BlueMark

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Hey David, this minority immigrant gun owner wants to know more. Why don't you tell us what race these gun buying Americans are?


 

Rogue Statistician

Robin
Orthodox Inquirer
Hey David, this minority immigrant gun owner wants to know more. Why don't you tell us what race these gun buying Americans are?


Well if the range is any indication.........its the races with poor aim :)
 

Hannibal

Ostrich
Gold Member
I'm surprised this thread is still named "Gun Control Debate" instead of "Gun Rights Termination"

That's the best part of the "marketplace of ideas". If you shit it up with enough "ideas" and "questions" in one direction, then the common response goes from "shall not be infringed" to "shall we infringe it now or next week?".

The lefties have taken a different tactic, as the second amendment is the only one the "conservatives" have not completely abandoned, they will simply corrupt what is remaining of the country until there is no reason to defend what is left with force.
 

budoslavic

Owl
Orthodox
Gold Member

Gun Sales Continue to Surge Amid Fear of Violence, Crime​

Concerns about increased violence and crime continue to fuel a surge in gun purchases and background checks.

The FBI set a record for May in background checks. The bureau's latest data suggests 2021 will be another record year for background checks and sales, topping the nearly 40 million checks last year, the Washington Examiner reported Wednesday.

A total of 3.22 million background checks were performed in May, according to Forbes. That number was down 8% from 3.51 million in April but up 4% from 3.09 million in May 2020.

Inventory of firearms is low and the availability of ammunition is scarce due to the demand for weapons.

"Today our clients are buying anything that is not nailed down, and if it is nailed down some are bringing pry bars," said Clay Ausley, who co-owns Fuquay Gun & Gold in Fuquay-Varina, North Carolina. "We are selling whatever we can get in stock and pretty much as quickly as it comes in, it typically goes right back out."

Background checks and gun purchases are not a 1-to-1 match because checks also are conducted for security clearances and concealed carry permits in some cases.

But the record pace indicates the growing popularity of weapons. The Examiner reported gun stores and industry officials said the increase in buying weapons has been driven by minorities and women, especially in urban areas, concerned about their safety.

The current year is on pace to double the number of background checks and sales of just six years ago, when 23 million checks were conducted.

Although Democrats and the mainstream media promote gun control and blame the murder rate on weapons, statistics show a large percentage of the population has not been convinced.

Polls also show that many Americans are against the anti-gun efforts of President Joe Biden.


"There has never, not once, been an accepted study that correlated increased violent crime with increased gun sales," said Justin Anderson, the marketing director for Hyatt Guns of Charlotte, North Carolina, one of the nation's biggest gun stores. "In fact, it’s been proven over and over again that an armed populace is a polite populace. Criminals, for the most part, do not acquire their guns legally.

"The reason gun sales are going through the roof is simple: Law-abiding citizens are afraid. They are afraid of violent crime. They are afraid of the lawlessness that has been spread by riotous criminals. They are afraid of an inept and tyrannous government. In essence, people are starting to realize what most gun owners have known for years: You are your own first responder and that when seconds count, the police are only minutes away."

The weapons industry is fueled by at least 8 million new gun buyers, according to data from the National Shooting Sports Foundation, Forbes reported.

"These 9 million new buyers, many of whom are women and people of color, bring true new demand to this market," Jason Vanderbrink, president of ammunition for Vista Outdoor, said during his employer’s investor day online event May 26.
 

budoslavic

Owl
Orthodox
Gold Member
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Easy_C

Peacock
Warning for Ample Cussing in the video (BG is an Ex hang-banger who converted to Christianity after prison but retains the mannerisms).

This probably going to make some people here butthurt and that’s the point. The man is speaking harsh truths you need to hear.

 

TXbro

Sparrow
Gold Member

An objective analysis of this claim shows that this isn't necessarily the case. Obscure gun laws can be selectively enforced against political dissidents. For example, there is a federal law that states that it is illegal to be a gun owner and be a user of marijuana. Selective enforcement of this law has been pretext to go after political dissidents.

Being a gun owner and a political dissident also means that instead of a knock at the door by federal agents, you get an entire SWAT team and a no-knock raid "cuz gunz." The 2nd Amendment is a depoliticizer overall.

It also results in the "canary in the coalmine" fallacy (if I have muh gunz it means I'm free). People who think that the US will ever abolish the 2nd Amendment are flat-out wrong. Since Talmudism is the official text of the modern US, there is no need to abolish speech or guns. The Plutocrat class wants anarchists/BLM to have guns and they don't want gun laws being used against them.

The right to have guns is necessary but it's important that we view the 2nd Amendment within an overall system of power.
 

TXbro

Sparrow
Gold Member

I'm not going to engage in snark as I want to help fellow Americans and not "own" them. But we can say it's none of the government's business all we want but break even the tiniest gun law and you will get rekt. This mentality needs to be jettisoned because we don't live in the world of ideals or political slogans. Yes it shouldn't be the govs business but the government does see it as their business. In fact, if you got raided for posting on RVF and they found this meme after seizing your computer, it will be an exhibit in your show trial.
 

presidentcarter

Ostrich
Gold Member
I've watched this guy's stuff several times and not only is he an entertaining guy, he seems to know his stuff. He's former law enforcement but knows a lot about the law and the process. I wouldn't be surprised if he's already on the forum.

His most recent video:

 

lskdfjldsf

Pelican
Gold Member
Go to your local gun store and ask them about some of the things they're seeing with first-time buyers -- one just told me a guy was arguing with the clerk because he said he needed 9mm rounds for his new pistol. The guy couldn't understand why other caliber boxes on the shelf wouldn't work.

The primer shortage is driving me insane, these idiots need to stop buying! No intention of training or learning or safe handling.
 

stugatz

Pelican
Go to your local gun store and ask them about some of the things they're seeing with first-time buyers -- one just told me a guy was arguing with the clerk because he said he needed 9mm rounds for his new pistol. The guy couldn't understand why other caliber boxes on the shelf wouldn't work.

The primer shortage is driving me insane, these idiots need to stop buying! No intention of training or learning or safe handling.
I have always been interested in a .357 because it can also shoot .38. Not sure if any other gun can do that.

Problem is, .357 isn’t a cheap round and is probably too much gun most of the time...but it’s a neat trick, I guess.
 

presidentcarter

Ostrich
Gold Member
Go to your local gun store and ask them about some of the things they're seeing with first-time buyers -- one just told me a guy was arguing with the clerk because he said he needed 9mm rounds for his new pistol. The guy couldn't understand why other caliber boxes on the shelf wouldn't work.

The primer shortage is driving me insane, these idiots need to stop buying! No intention of training or learning or safe handling.
A lot of this going on at ranges across the country now too. Holding firearms sideways and passing them between lanes, etc.

Last time I was there the range marshals sat and watched a group violate a handful of range rules before one marshal said that’s it enough is enough and went to have a word with them. It seemed like it wasn’t the first warning either.

I can understand why an older marshal there wears body armor at work.
 

Bird

Pelican
Right to bear firearms to be included in Czech constitution

The right to bear firearms will be included in the Czech constitution. The Senate approved the constitutional amendment yesterday, Wednesday, after the House of Representatives had already approved the change.

The Czech Republic currently has just under one million registered firearms in a population of almost eleven million. This number has been steadily increasing in recent years. Nevertheless, there have been no reports of gunmen running amok or extremists shooting wildly. However, there have also been no reports from the Czech Republic of "refugees" or other "seekers of protection" going on the rampage. This is not surprising for two reasons: on the one hand, the Czech Republic, like Hungary or Poland, refuses to follow the policy of uncontrolled borders set by the EU and Merkel, but on the other hand, even a knife fetishist would think twice before running through the streets of Prague killing, if the mathematical probability of encountering a resident equipped with a firearm is one in ten.

In any case, in the future the Constitution of Tsechia will say: "The right to defend one's life or the life of another person with a weapon is guaranteed under the conditions established by law." For this passage to be included, it is now necessary for President Milos Zeman to sign the resolution. This is considered relatively certain.

This amendment to the Czech constitution is a reaction to the EU Commission's efforts to make it more difficult to acquire firearms. Brussels had adopted stricter EU gun laws after the terrorist attacks in Paris in November 2015. In the Czech Republic, a petition was initiated against the Brussels decision, and more than 100,000 people, including head of government Andrej Babis, founder of the ANO party, signed the petition.

Acquiring firearms in the Czech Republic is relatively easy, with only individual cases requiring a psychological examination to obtain a firearms license. The country is also a major exporter of small arms from its own production. The Czech CZG Group recently acquired the long-established U.S. competitor Colt.


 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
Oh. My, my.
Curiouser & curiouser...

Voxday :

Prove the Damages

Remington isn’t rolling over for the lawsuit against it related to the alleged Sandy Hook school shootings:
Gun company Remington has subpoenaed the report cards, attendance records, and disciplinary records of five kindergarten and first grade students murdered in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, according to new court filings in a civil lawsuit filed against the company.
“In mid-July, the defense served a subpoena on the Newtown Public School District seeking: ‘Any and all educational records in your possession including but not limited to, application and admission paperwork, attendance records, transcripts, report cards, disciplinary records, correspondence and any and all other educational information and records pertaining to’ each of the five first-graders whose Estates are plaintiffs in this case,” according to the motion filed today that sought to protect the victims’ families from further subpoenas. “There is no conceivable way that these [records] will assist Remington in its defense, and the plaintiffs do not understand why Remington would invade the families’ privacy with such a request. Nonetheless, this personal and private information has been produced to Remington.”
In addition, Remington subpoenaed employment records of four teachers who were killed in the shooting, in which a total of 20 children and six adults died.
Of course there is a perfectly conceivable way those records, or rather, their sudden and comprehensive disappearance, will assist Remington in its defense, and the response of the plaintiff’s attorneys proves it. Because it is obvious that Remington’s lawyers are aware of the possibility that those “murdered children” did not even exist in the first place, or that they were crisis actors who never actually attended the school. And the burden of proof that they did attend the school lies squarely with the plaintiffs.
Unless the whole thing is just a show trial run by a corrupt judge, no amount of “invasion of privacy’ is going to prevent the plaintiffs from having to prove they suffered the damages they claim to have suffered.
 
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