The gun control debate

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"It's Become A Political Arm Of White House": ATF Gun Store Revocations Hit 16-Year High​

Under the Biden-Harris administration, there has been a considerable rise in gun stores having their licenses revoked by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF).

The Trace reported that 92 Federal Firearm Licenses (FFLs) had been pulled so far this year -- this is the highest number since 2008.

And comes nearly a year and a half after President Biden declared war on 'rogue gun dealers.'

"The numbers provide the first indication that federal investigators have cracked down on lawbreaking gun dealers following guidance from the Biden administration ordering the agency to take a stricter tack during inspections," Trace said.

The revoked 92 FFLs account for 1.3% of all the gun shops inspected. The revocation rate under Biden has skyrocketed to the highest in 16 years.

"The pandemic hobbled the ATF's ability to conduct compliance inspections at gun stores, and the total number of inspections has yet to rebound to pre-pandemic levels," Trace said.

Anti-gun David Chipman, former ATF agent and Biden's failed ATF head nomination, who now works for the Center for Gun Violence Solutions at Johns Hopkins University, commented on the data, saying, "the trendline is good. We should applaud the agency for holding the industry accountable — for doing its job."

However, one gun shop owner in New Jersey told AmmoLand Shooting Sports News that Biden's crackdown on FFLs "is no longer about pursuing criminals:"

"It has become a political arm of the White House. These ATF agents – they're no longer worried about what's right and wrong. They're worried about their jobs. This is all part of Biden's zero-tolerance policy for gun dealers."

So is the surge in FFL revocations under the Biden administration just another back-door attempt to trample the Second Amendment?

 

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37 Months Straight: America Is Buying 1 Million Guns A Month​

While they might not be the super records of years past, guns and overall firearms sales are still going through the roof.

According to newly released FBI data, background checks exceeded 2.51 million in August, which was consistent with the previous two summers. However, Small Arms Analytics & Forecasting (SAAF) estimates August 2022 U.S. firearms unit sales were at about 1.4 million units, a year-over-year decrease of 3.8 percent relative to August 2021. The decrease affected the handgun segment (−2.7 percent) significantly less than it did the long-gun segment (−7.2 percent). SAAF’s firearms unit sales estimates and forecasts are based on raw data taken from the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), adjusted for checks unlikely to be related to end-user firearms sales.

“Normally August sales are ‘bumped up’ relative to July sales by about 10% to 30%, but this has not been the case for the past three years, possibly reflecting different purchasing patterns since covid-19 arrived in the U.S,” said SAAF Chief Economist Jurgen Brauer.

Even with the decline, however, August 2022 was the 37th consecutive month topping more than one million civilian firearms sold – and by a considerable margin.

Strong Second Amendment Support: A Reason for Guns Sales Boom?

Strong firearms sales suggest continued support for the Second Amendment, even as there have been – or more likely in reaction to the – continued calls from lawmakers for additional gun control measures. Earlier this summer, the United States House and Senate passed a bipartisan gun-reform bill, which President Joe Biden subsequently signed into law. That $13 billion measure had been designed to toughen background checks for the youngest gun buyers, keep firearms from more domestic violence offenders, and also to help states put in place red flag laws that make it easier for authorities to take weapons from people who are thought to be “dangerous.”

Opponents of the law have suggested it unfairly punishes law-abiding citizens while doing little to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

“August’s figures show there is a clear and steady desire by the American public for lawful firearm ownership,” the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), the firearms industry trade association said via a statement, reported by Newsmax.

“Consistently throughout the year, background check figures for firearm sales at retail have put 2022 on pace to be the third strongest year, behind only the outsized years witnessed in 2020 and 2021. August’s figures of 1,286,816 background checks was slightly ahead of July’s that came in at 1,233,115,” the NSSF statement continued.

“This also marks 37 months straight of background checks exceeding 1 million. Americans are choosing their gun rights by the millions each month while gun control politicians talk only of efforts to deprive them of their Constitutional rights. They are voting with their wallets. Politicians would be wise to heed to the will of Americans lawfully exercising their Constitutional rights and instead focus their efforts on locking up criminals that misuse firearms,” the NSSF said.

Guns Sales Keep Booming, Gun Companies on the Move

This year has also seen many firearms manufacturers pulling up stakes to move out of the “blue states” – especially those with strict gun control measures such as Massachusetts and Connecticut – to more pro-friendly “red states.”

Earlier this year, Smith & Wesson has moved its headquarters from Springfield, Mass. – once the center of “Gun Valley” since the American Revolution – to Tennessee, while at least 20 other firearms, ammunition, and gun accessory companies have also made similar moves. Beretta USA has actually led the efforts, as it moved its production to Tennessee in 2014, relocating some 200 jobs from Maryland.

In addition, just last year, Oklahoma lawmakers even launched a study to determine how to attract gun makers best, while governors from six states attended this year’s SHOT Show (Shooting, Hunting, Outdoor Trade Show), the industry’s annual trade event held each January in Las Vegas. The six governors made the trek to promote their states to the industry.

“These states are openly attracting the industry. Some of them have been very aggressive,” Mark Oliva, spokesman for the NSSF, told The Washington Post.

Though President Biden and some lawmakers may still believe that Americans are clamoring for “gun control,” the sales data tells another tale.
 

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State Attorneys General Say FedEx And UPS Help Feds Track Gun Sales​

Montana Attorney General Austin Knudsen, together with 17 other state attorneys general, has demanded that shipping companies UPS and FedEx explain their newly implemented policies to track and record Americans’ firearms purchases, and disclose whether these policies have been coordinated with the Biden administration.

In letters sent on Nov. 29 to FedEx CEO Raj Subramaniam and UPS CEO Carol B. Tomé, Knudsen and co-signers wrote that the shipping companies’ policies “allow your company to track firearm sales with unprecedented specificity and bypass warrant requirements to share that information with federal agencies.”

“What both of these companies are saying is that they’re doing this so they can better cooperate with law enforcement,” Knudsen told The Epoch Times. “That’s all fine and well, until you find out that that’s a violation of federal law.”

Based on reports from gun stores, Knudsen’s letter states, FedEx and UPS are now requiring Federal Firearms License holders (FFLs) to provide details of each shipment to the shipping companies, including the contents and recipient, allowing them “to create a database of American gun purchasers and determine exactly what items they purchased.

Citing the new policies, the letter states: “Perhaps most concerning, your policies allegedly allow FedEx [and UPS] to ‘comply with … requests from applicable law enforcement or other governmental authorities’ even when those requests are ‘inconsistent or contrary to any applicable law, rule, regulation, or order.’ In doing so you—perhaps inadvertently—give federal agencies a workaround to federal law, which has long prevented federal agencies from using gun sales to create gun registries.”

“The ATF is hoping they’re not going to have a warrant problem,” Knudsen said. “They could just go get this information from UPS and FedEx.”

FedEx and UPS’s new gun-tracking policies follow on the heels of efforts by Visa, Mastercard, and American Express to also monitor purchases from gun stores, with the intention of handing this information over to federal law enforcement. The Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution prohibits the federal government from conducting searches of U.S. citizens without a warrant and “probable cause” that a crime was committed. Increasingly, however, banks, credit card companies, and now shipping companies are conducting those searches on the government’s behalf.

The letter demands that the shipping companies respond within 30 days, clarifying their policies and explaining whether or not they acted in coordination with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), or any other government agency. It also asks them to clarify a reported “gag order” under which they directed gun shops not to disclose the terms of this policy to the public.

Is There Possibly Collusion?
The two attorneys general letters to UPS and FedEx were virtually identical because the policies the two shipping companies implemented appear to be strikingly similar, raising the additional issue of possible collusion between companies that hold an oligopolistic position in shipping. Collusion in restraint of trade has long been illegal under U.S. antitrust laws, including the Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890.

“It’s either collusion, they’re working together, or what I suspect is, it’s probably originating out of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, or the Biden administration,” Knudsen said. His letter recommends that the shipping companies “consider taking actions to limit potential liability moving forward, including the immediate cessation of any existing warrantless information sharing with federal agencies about gun shipments.”

If the shipping companies don’t answer his questions within 30 days, Knudsen said, “I’ll probably start with an actual formal civil investigative demand where we’ll ask for some some documentation. That’s short of a subpoena and an actual lawsuit,” he said, “but, ultimately, if they don’t want to cooperate, a lawsuit is where we’re going to end up.”

In response to the letter, FedEx issued a statement to The Epoch Times that “FedEx is aware of the letter from the state attorneys general. We are committed to the lawful and safe movement of regulated items through our network.”

UPS responded that it “has not bypassed any laws to provide customer information to the Biden administration or federal agencies related to the shipment of firearms. UPS will only provide information about our customers or shipments when required to do so by law, such as in response to a subpoena or a warrant.”

UPS added that it “will respond to the letter sent by several state attorneys general to answer their questions and clarify misinformation. UPS will continue to abide by all applicable laws in providing service for firearm shipments.”
 

budoslavic

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An interesting post from June 2021.

More than 61% of American Counties are Now Second Amendment Sanctuaries​

There are now 1,930 counties that are protected by Second Amendment Sanctuary legislation at either the state or county level. This represents 61.39% of all of the counties in the United States of America. Strangely, as was recently pointed out by Lee Williams, The Gun Writer, the media seems to be ignoring this movement still, for the most part. We have seen plenty of news about Constitutional Carry, which is another movement that we are actually quite supportive of. Yet the mainstream news has remained relatively silent regarding the massive Second Amendment Sanctuary movement, which leads us to a few questions.

State versus Local
Texas brought us up to 21 states that have enacted Constitutional Carry laws, but how many Constitutional Carry Counties do you know of? What was the last Constitutional Carry City you read about? Townships? Boroughs? Again, we are very supportive of Constitutional Carry, but one of the differences between it and the Second Amendment Sanctuary movement is that Constitutional Carry is being passed at the state level, while approximately 1,137 counties have taken it upon themselves to pass Second Amendment Sanctuary legislation and likely hundreds of cities, townships, boroughs, etc have done so at their level as well. The Second Amendment Sanctuary movement is a grassroots / bottom-up movement.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

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Gun control means taking away a man's ability to defend his family from harm. That is evil.

In my opinion, an Orthodox Christian can support some limits on guns, but not to the point where it hampers a man's ability to defend others.

Personally, I'm a gun rights absolutist; as long as you're not a dangerous felon or severely mentally ill, then you should have the right to purchase firearms, carry them openly, conceal carry, etc. -- with no state involvement.
 

get2choppaaa

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Gun control means taking away a man's ability to defend his family from harm. That is evil.

In my opinion, an Orthodox Christian can support some limits on guns, but not to the point where it hampers a man's ability to defend others.

Personally, I'm a gun rights absolutist; as long as you're not a dangerous felon or severely mentally ill, then you should have the right to purchase firearms, carry them openly, conceal carry, etc. -- with no state involvement.
I have one on me everywhere I go. My wife too. Church/Work/Bars doesnt matter. We carry.... Always concealed... but carrying is part of daily life. Just like a cell phone or a wallet.
 

infowarrior1

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I have one on me everywhere I go. My wife too. Church/Work/Bars doesnt matter. We carry.... Always concealed... but carrying is part of daily life. Just like a cell phone or a wallet.

As long as you aren't in a Blue Jurisdiction. Else they are going to punish you severely for legitimate use of 2A. Even now Kyle Rittenhouse is being punished by the process. And still probably being sued and tied up in court.

You can find other examples of those who use guns still being punished right now to this day. Like this:


 
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get2choppaaa

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As long as you aren't in a Blue Jurisdiction. Else they are going to punish you severely for legitimate use of 2A. Even now Kyle Rittenhouse is being punished by the process. And still probably being sued and tied up in court.

You can find other examples of those who use guns still being punished right now to this day. Like this:



Yes but better to have a ba case in your back to fight than to have your house burned by black activists.
That's Kim Gardner and a poop show.

I'm in rural Texas. We don't go into Houston except for Chruch. When I take the old lady to the Opera or an expensive dinner (which is increasingly rare as obligations increase between children and the homestead)...we still carry. We've isolated ourselves from that crap. I saw it post BLM, and she saw it working as a paramedic during that time.

Carry a gun. Shoot a fool if you have to. It's always better than suffering the alternative.
 

infowarrior1

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Yes but better to have a ba case in your back to fight than to have your house burned by black activists.
That's Kim Gardner and a poop show.

I'm in rural Texas. We don't go into Houston except for Chruch. When I take the old lady to the Opera or an expensive dinner (which is increasingly rare as obligations increase between children and the homestead)...we still carry. We've isolated ourselves from that crap. I saw it post BLM, and she saw it working as a paramedic during that time.

Carry a gun. Shoot a fool if you have to. It's always better than suffering the alternative.

Showcases how simple spite drives many people.
 

Seadog

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Yes but better to have a ba case in your back to fight than to have your house burned by black activists.
That's Kim Gardner and a poop show.

I'm in rural Texas. We don't go into Houston except for Chruch. When I take the old lady to the Opera or an expensive dinner (which is increasingly rare as obligations increase between children and the homestead)...we still carry. We've isolated ourselves from that crap. I saw it post BLM, and she saw it working as a paramedic during that time.

Carry a gun. Shoot a fool if you have to. It's always better than suffering the alternative.

While I don't wholly disagree, this sort of logic is on par with "better safe than sorry". This inherently implies/assumes that there is zero cost associated with being"safe", or in this case "shoot the fool".

Going down that path, almost regardless of the circumstances is going to be a very expensive, drawn out, public, coin toss. Better than dying? Sure. Better than misjudging the situation and shooting an unarmed black person who gave some of the signals he was about to pounce, reaching for a lighter quickly, but not on tape?

You assume the only alternative to shooting someone is dying. In many cases it could be the other person just going on their way. But that's where it gets murky. By the time you're 100% absolutely sure someone wants to kill you, it may be too late, but you can't go around shooting people because you were 50% sure they were going to. But who wants to bet their freedom (if wrong and shoot) or life (if wrong and don't shoot) on 50%?

The other unfortunate is that being forced into those situations is yet another symptom, not a cause. Anti-social, aggressive, unfreindly boderline ODing people who can make a night out the equivalent of a walk on the savanna in Lion country. What you see there is the result of decades of bad decisions and choices by gov't.
 

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While I don't wholly disagree, this sort of logic is on par with "better safe than sorry". This inherently implies/assumes that there is zero cost associated with being"safe", or in this case "shoot the fool".

Going down that path, almost regardless of the circumstances is going to be a very expensive, drawn out, public, coin toss. Better than dying? Sure. Better than misjudging the situation and shooting an unarmed black person who gave some of the signals he was about to pounce, reaching for a lighter quickly, but not on tape?

You assume the only alternative to shooting someone is dying. In many cases it could be the other person just going on their way. But that's where it gets murky. By the time you're 100% absolutely sure someone wants to kill you, it may be too late, but you can't go around shooting people because you were 50% sure they were going to. But who wants to bet their freedom (if wrong and shoot) or life (if wrong and don't shoot) on 50%?

The other unfortunate is that being forced into those situations is yet another symptom, not a cause. Anti-social, aggressive, unfreindly boderline ODing people who can make a night out the equivalent of a walk on the savanna in Lion country. What you see there is the result of decades of bad decisions and choices by gov't.
This is why you train and carry with one in the chamber and no safety. When it comes out, your brain has determined that there is no other alternative and it's go time. Also why I'd recommend a caliber you can shoot one handed (other arm may be blocking an attacker or already broken) and a piece with no red dot or lights for your concealed carry (can make it look preplanned or opportunistic in front of a jury).

It's a last resort when your or someone you love life is in immediate danger and yeah the aftermath will be difficult but as long as you abide by your training you'll know that you had no other choice.

Carry insurance, knowledge of local laws, etc. are also part of the ccw route.

I know it can seem extremely foreign to think that you'd carry a gun around 24/7 in modern times and in a developed country, but I think it's a blessing we have the ability to defend ourselves absolutely if necessary. It really is something to cherish.
 
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"Were You Expecting Us?": ATF Agents Go 'Door To Door' To Confiscate FRT-15 Triggers​

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) under the Biden administration continues its 'door-to-door' operation to seize Rare Breed FRT-15 triggers from private citizens. The latest example comes days ago when ATF agents, noticeably armed and wearing ballistic plate carriers, showed up at a person's home, demanding the surrender of the FRT-15 trigger.

A man who claimed to be the owner of Moonlight Industries, a company specializing in making chest rigs for special forces operators, posted a video on Moonlight's YouTube channel of two ATF agents visiting him at his home.

The conversation begins with the woman ATF agent saying, "Were you expecting us?"

The man responded, "Well, it doesn't surprise me with a guy wearing a plate carrier showing up..."

The woman ATF agent (who does most of the talking) said, "The reason why we're here ... that just recently, the ATF, classified the FRT as machine guns."

She said, "We are aware that you might have purchased some of these FRTs." She admitted, "Like the whole agency is basically 'reaching out' to these purchasers, and we have to pick them up."

After all that, Moonlight's owner responded, "Well, I won't be answering any questions today ... and I don't have any comments on this subject ... and I won't be giving you anything."

In a split second, the male ATF agent asked Moonlight's owner, "Are you refusing to give us the trigger?"

Moonlight's owner said, "I'm not refusing to give anything. I just won't be answering any questions."
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How the ATF obtained customers' information about who bought the triggers is still unknown. Some believe the ATF seized Rare Breed's customer base through payment processors and or shipping companies. But what's evident from the video is that the agents are aware of who bought these triggers and know exactly where those people live.

For the last few years, we've thoroughly covered the ATF's battle against Rare Breed Triggers. The gun parts company once legally sold a drop-in trigger for an AR-15-style rifle that forces the trigger to reset at such a high speed that it increases the weapon's fire rate.
 

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