The Hillary Clinton thread

kosko

Peacock
Gold Member
RE: Apparently Hillary Clintion is running for President

I called this 4 years ago. Benghazi was the only real hope to kill the wicked witch of D.C. for good. That literally almost destroyed her political career and we would of been ridden of the Ghoul from Gotham named Hillary. After nearing loosing her political marbles and gaming 40 pounds and aging 40 years she went into the chamber (I suspect HGH.. but hey just my speculation) to shed some years of her and not appear like a lifeless fossil and now just looks like a boring grandmother instead.

I don't know what RVF does politically. Every 4 years the mass majority get way to invested and start digesting large amounts of junk media and mainstream opinions only to moan more and more of how stuff keeps on getting worse for the average man. For Hillary to get to this point, it was all lad down very clearly many years ago. If you are of a critical political mind this can't even surprise you. Any dude truly in the Red Pill just laughs at this. It was so easy to see coming.

Next, people seem to be forgetting the money aspect. The only legitimate candidates are the ones who can pull in that dirty money. This will likely be a $2 billion dollar contest. Which of those Republican empty suits can pull $1 billion?+

People need to get with it that this game is rigged. Hillary out of all them has the biggest money pull potential which should easily hammer in that this whole campaign is rigged from the start. Who else in that list above can pull that money?

From the money standpoint alone you can already guess who it will be:

Jeb Bush Vs. Hillary Clinton

Two nepotistic family clans with access to billions going against each other. The media will have a field day with it and Americans will remain clueless as to how two families have ruled all political office in the most of the modern age post-Cold war. Its is too obvious but you know the average American who likes Hardes, his K-Cup Coffee machine, and NASCAR is as dumb as doorknob and won't be able to connect those dots.

So now the Republicans will roll out a dummy doll, likely in Jeb Bush who will do the usual of being ultra extreme to get the hard of right in Iowa down and then be a walking contradiction once the primaries are won and he is on the national stage appealing to all sides, thus to become a dead horse and unelectable. The Republicans are in ideology trap as the power and money in their corner is held by its most extreme which are distasteful to the majority of Americans.

Hillary will be during her campaign more "right" then Obama who was a beta all all about passivity and striking deals. She has 8 years of softy beta man leadership to profile against and since she is woman she can talk "tough" and nobody will fault her for it. As I have noted before, expect her to be aggressive on war/foreign policy. Iran for example and the softy deal the USA signed with Iran, watch Hillary be able to troll and act like she has some fake nuts in talking hot rhetoric to Iran in contrasting her as more dominate then Obama.

So once again, political threads like this proves that many on this forum on only "red pill" with pussy. Look at all the cheerleding for Rand Paul when the fact of the matter is.. for him to be a "viable" candidate, he has to shill and grovel like all the rest of the deadbeats of the past to bend over to Wall Street and other corrupt interests whom will shower him with the $1 Billion needed to compete. The flavor of the month here is Rand Paul, and ff he is in fact a legit "candidate" then he is corrupted. It is just that simple. The process in this modern age does not steer towards any other direction, viable and real candidates get marginalized, and ran through the mud in the press, or simply ignored.

I simply accepted the fact that Hillary would be accented to the throne when Obama squeezed out a 2nd term. Once Obama did that I knew the Republicans were DOA and would not be a factor the next time around. You saw quickly the shift towards preparing the media landscape for this election with the assault on gender and propping and protection of the female narrative on all aspects.

Like I said before. Understand and accept the game is rigged and get your popcorn out. I can't wait for this mess of campaign, the amount of material coming out of it will be pure gold.

Its a waste of time bickering on which side of the coin is going to fuck you over the least. Neither party has your best interest in mind and all work for the same corrupt interests.

Your better off using that effort to get your shit in check for when the folly comes full circle. Hillary in the POTUS seat means that the small bit of rope that modern men had left in this modern age will be taken away. Economically Men are already 2nd class, the economy has been nearly full tilted towards women. Next, Socially Men have been tarred and feathered through all means of SJW crusades to paint anything with a penis as evil and the devil. Now all that is left is to shut the books on the any shred of male focus left in the political sphere. The world of politics has been a female oasis for while now but Hillary will be the last straw. So instead of arguing over which losers will never win (Rand Paul, Jeb Bush, etc).
 

The Father

 
Banned
RE: Apparently Hillary Clintion is running for President

el mechanico said:
Hillary= Bill

Bush= Bush

No thanks. The Bush family is a complete super rich disconnect.

Agree. Don't want Hitlary OR a Bush. The only bush I wanna see is on vintage 1980's porn :banana:
 
RE: Apparently Hillary Clintion is running for President

The whole idea of Clinton getting votes because she's a woman is curious. The thing is, there are always going to be libtards pushing for the first female president, just like there was the push for the first black president. Eventually, they are going to get their wish.

So what happens next? Until recently, I believed that a white male president would never happen again, but now I'm not so sure. If an African-American were to run in the upcoming election, they wouldn't have as much backing based on race as Obama did.

Of course the tumblr types will never be happy until a black transgender overweight midget on stilts is the president, but maybe America suffers through one female president and the beta males and borderline feminists back off?
 

kosko

Peacock
Gold Member
RE: Apparently Hillary Clintion is running for President

The affect of Obama "being black and winning" was overblown. Even if every black person in American walked to go vote for Obama that would not guarantee him the seat of POTUS due to the ratio of Blacks in the population and the cockblock of the electoral college that would make sure that beacons of racial diversity like West Virginia and Wyoming would snuff all that out. The idea of a woman attempting to sway half the populace to vote for her is more a actual thing you can look at but even that is a stretch.

The Obama campaign was simply a well executed campaign that was mirrored more a color revolution then a political campaign for office. Obama sold the sizzle over any actual substance, it was all about the setting of optics. It was a well orchestrated performance that people who do marketing look at for insight.

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When you look back it now, it is to obvious to see the pompous and stunts behind it all. It was big money, and big influence, pushing Obama as a pawn. Because we saw in the next campaign without all the luster Obama is a dull duck

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Eusebius

Hummingbird
Gold Member
RE: Apparently Hillary Clintion is running for President

It will be amusing to see all the high-fiving over the first female president if Hillary is elected, as if it were America's latest and greatest demonstration of how wonderfully progressive and unique it is, when other countries - including India, Pakistan, UK, Turkey - have had female leaders for decades.
 

MrLemon

 
Banned
RE: Apparently Hillary Clintion is running for President

Bush + Paul/Walker for VP

The southern and midwestern states feel like there is NO WAY IN HELL they will vote for a woman. It will be Bush/Paul/Walker vs. Clinton. Bush will win. Everybody will gasp and pretend to faint. But most politicians knew it was coming.

Republican Congress. Republican President. Personally I don't care, I'm focused on getting the hell out of the country.
 

iamdegaussed

Kingfisher
RE: Apparently Hillary Clintion is running for President

Played "spot the feminist cunt" on facebook tonight by seeing all the people crowing about Hillary's announcement.
 

DChambers

Woodpecker
RE: Apparently Hillary Clintion is running for President

kosko said:
I called this 4 years ago. Benghazi was the only real hope to kill the wicked witch of D.C. for good. That literally almost destroyed her political career and we would of been ridden of the Ghoul from Gotham named Hillary. After nearing loosing her political marbles and gaming 40 pounds and aging 40 years she went into the chamber (I suspect HGH.. but hey just my speculation) to shed some years of her and not appear like a lifeless fossil and now just looks like a boring grandmother instead.

I don't know what RVF does politically. Every 4 years the mass majority get way to invested and start digesting large amounts of junk media and mainstream opinions only to moan more and more of how stuff keeps on getting worse for the average man. For Hillary to get to this point, it was all lad down very clearly many years ago. If you are of a critical political mind this can't even surprise you. Any dude truly in the Red Pill just laughs at this. It was so easy to see coming.

Next, people seem to be forgetting the money aspect. The only legitimate candidates are the ones who can pull in that dirty money. This will likely be a $2 billion dollar contest. Which of those Republican empty suits can pull $1 billion?+

People need to get with it that this game is rigged. Hillary out of all them has the biggest money pull potential which should easily hammer in that this whole campaign is rigged from the start. Who else in that list above can pull that money?

From the money standpoint alone you can already guess who it will be:

Jeb Bush Vs. Hillary Clinton

Two nepotistic family clans with access to billions going against each other. The media will have a field day with it and Americans will remain clueless as to how two families have ruled all political office in the most of the modern age post-Cold war. Its is too obvious but you know the average American who likes Hardes, his K-Cup Coffee machine, and NASCAR is as dumb as doorknob and won't be able to connect those dots.

So now the Republicans will roll out a dummy doll, likely in Jeb Bush who will do the usual of being ultra extreme to get the hard of right in Iowa down and then be a walking contradiction once the primaries are won and he is on the national stage appealing to all sides, thus to become a dead horse and unelectable. The Republicans are in ideology trap as the power and money in their corner is held by its most extreme which are distasteful to the majority of Americans.

Hillary will be during her campaign more "right" then Obama who was a beta all all about passivity and striking deals. She has 8 years of softy beta man leadership to profile against and since she is woman she can talk "tough" and nobody will fault her for it. As I have noted before, expect her to be aggressive on war/foreign policy. Iran for example and the softy deal the USA signed with Iran, watch Hillary be able to troll and act like she has some fake nuts in talking hot rhetoric to Iran in contrasting her as more dominate then Obama.

So once again, political threads like this proves that many on this forum on only "red pill" with pussy. Look at all the cheerleding for Rand Paul when the fact of the matter is.. for him to be a "viable" candidate, he has to shill and grovel like all the rest of the deadbeats of the past to bend over to Wall Street and other corrupt interests whom will shower him with the $1 Billion needed to compete. The flavor of the month here is Rand Paul, and ff he is in fact a legit "candidate" then he is corrupted. It is just that simple. The process in this modern age does not steer towards any other direction, viable and real candidates get marginalized, and ran through the mud in the press, or simply ignored.

I simply accepted the fact that Hillary would be accented to the throne when Obama squeezed out a 2nd term. Once Obama did that I knew the Republicans were DOA and would not be a factor the next time around. You saw quickly the shift towards preparing the media landscape for this election with the assault on gender and propping and protection of the female narrative on all aspects.

Like I said before. Understand and accept the game is rigged and get your popcorn out. I can't wait for this mess of campaign, the amount of material coming out of it will be pure gold.

Its a waste of time bickering on which side of the coin is going to fuck you over the least. Neither party has your best interest in mind and all work for the same corrupt interests.

Your better off using that effort to get your shit in check for when the folly comes full circle. Hillary in the POTUS seat means that the small bit of rope that modern men had left in this modern age will be taken away. Economically Men are already 2nd class, the economy has been nearly full tilted towards women. Next, Socially Men have been tarred and feathered through all means of SJW crusades to paint anything with a penis as evil and the devil. Now all that is left is to shut the books on the any shred of male focus left in the political sphere. The world of politics has been a female oasis for while now but Hillary will be the last straw. So instead of arguing over which losers will never win (Rand Paul, Jeb Bush, etc).

Kosko. With all due respect, while you have a great deal of insight into many topics, I find your political insights rather less than clear. You have a firm cynicism and apathy that shows contempt for almost any figure. While this isn't necessarily wrong (though I personaly think it is) you have in the past it appears let your apathy cloud your judgement. You at one point said,


"But for Ron Pauls son Rand? His son sold out 100% to be given the higher platforms his father was never granted. This "chance" Rand Paul has in. 2016 will simply via the same manufactured machine that gave Obama the same chance. The money might come from different hands but the greater forces all push the political class towards the same direction."

Which is ridiculous as his record shows. A sell out is a harsh term. He altered some positions a bit to be elected, but he maintains his libertarian positions on the important issues.

I have to wonder, do you view any candidate in a negative light if they reach a prominent position simply because you believe a power must be behind them in order to reach such a position?
 

kosko

Peacock
Gold Member
RE: Apparently Hillary Clintion is running for President

DChambers said:
kosko said:
I called this 4 years ago. Benghazi was the only real hope to kill the wicked witch of D.C. for good. That literally almost destroyed her political career and we would of been ridden of the Ghoul from Gotham named Hillary. After nearing loosing her political marbles and gaming 40 pounds and aging 40 years she went into the chamber (I suspect HGH.. but hey just my speculation) to shed some years of her and not appear like a lifeless fossil and now just looks like a boring grandmother instead.

I don't know what RVF does politically. Every 4 years the mass majority get way to invested and start digesting large amounts of junk media and mainstream opinions only to moan more and more of how stuff keeps on getting worse for the average man. For Hillary to get to this point, it was all lad down very clearly many years ago. If you are of a critical political mind this can't even surprise you. Any dude truly in the Red Pill just laughs at this. It was so easy to see coming.

Next, people seem to be forgetting the money aspect. The only legitimate candidates are the ones who can pull in that dirty money. This will likely be a $2 billion dollar contest. Which of those Republican empty suits can pull $1 billion?+

People need to get with it that this game is rigged. Hillary out of all them has the biggest money pull potential which should easily hammer in that this whole campaign is rigged from the start. Who else in that list above can pull that money?

From the money standpoint alone you can already guess who it will be:

Jeb Bush Vs. Hillary Clinton

Two nepotistic family clans with access to billions going against each other. The media will have a field day with it and Americans will remain clueless as to how two families have ruled all political office in the most of the modern age post-Cold war. Its is too obvious but you know the average American who likes Hardes, his K-Cup Coffee machine, and NASCAR is as dumb as doorknob and won't be able to connect those dots.

So now the Republicans will roll out a dummy doll, likely in Jeb Bush who will do the usual of being ultra extreme to get the hard of right in Iowa down and then be a walking contradiction once the primaries are won and he is on the national stage appealing to all sides, thus to become a dead horse and unelectable. The Republicans are in ideology trap as the power and money in their corner is held by its most extreme which are distasteful to the majority of Americans.

Hillary will be during her campaign more "right" then Obama who was a beta all all about passivity and striking deals. She has 8 years of softy beta man leadership to profile against and since she is woman she can talk "tough" and nobody will fault her for it. As I have noted before, expect her to be aggressive on war/foreign policy. Iran for example and the softy deal the USA signed with Iran, watch Hillary be able to troll and act like she has some fake nuts in talking hot rhetoric to Iran in contrasting her as more dominate then Obama.

So once again, political threads like this proves that many on this forum on only "red pill" with pussy. Look at all the cheerleding for Rand Paul when the fact of the matter is.. for him to be a "viable" candidate, he has to shill and grovel like all the rest of the deadbeats of the past to bend over to Wall Street and other corrupt interests whom will shower him with the $1 Billion needed to compete. The flavor of the month here is Rand Paul, and ff he is in fact a legit "candidate" then he is corrupted. It is just that simple. The process in this modern age does not steer towards any other direction, viable and real candidates get marginalized, and ran through the mud in the press, or simply ignored.

I simply accepted the fact that Hillary would be accented to the throne when Obama squeezed out a 2nd term. Once Obama did that I knew the Republicans were DOA and would not be a factor the next time around. You saw quickly the shift towards preparing the media landscape for this election with the assault on gender and propping and protection of the female narrative on all aspects.

Like I said before. Understand and accept the game is rigged and get your popcorn out. I can't wait for this mess of campaign, the amount of material coming out of it will be pure gold.

Its a waste of time bickering on which side of the coin is going to fuck you over the least. Neither party has your best interest in mind and all work for the same corrupt interests.

Your better off using that effort to get your shit in check for when the folly comes full circle. Hillary in the POTUS seat means that the small bit of rope that modern men had left in this modern age will be taken away. Economically Men are already 2nd class, the economy has been nearly full tilted towards women. Next, Socially Men have been tarred and feathered through all means of SJW crusades to paint anything with a penis as evil and the devil. Now all that is left is to shut the books on the any shred of male focus left in the political sphere. The world of politics has been a female oasis for while now but Hillary will be the last straw. So instead of arguing over which losers will never win (Rand Paul, Jeb Bush, etc).

Kosko. With all due respect, while you have a great deal of insight into many topics, I find your political insights rather less than clear. You have a firm cynicism and apathy that shows contempt for almost any figure. While this isn't necessarily wrong (though I personaly think it is) you have in the past it appears let your apathy cloud your judgement. You at one point said,


"But for Ron Pauls son Rand? His son sold out 100% to be given the higher platforms his father was never granted. This "chance" Rand Paul has in. 2016 will simply via the same manufactured machine that gave Obama the same chance. The money might come from different hands but the greater forces all push the political class towards the same direction."

Which is ridiculous as his record shows. A sell out is a harsh term. He altered some positions a bit to be elected, but he maintains his libertarian positions on the important issues.

I have to wonder, do you view any candidate in a negative light if they reach a prominent position simply because you believe a power must be behind them in order to reach such a position?

In short Yes. I will of course provide you with reasons why also when I am back at a computer.

You don't run for POTUS unless you work for Wall Street and other interests who run the show. It us just that simple. The idea of a stand alone candidate who potential.is a "game changer" does. It exsist anymore. The last legitimate candidates was Ralph Nadar and since then the contest has been propelled into sky high levels.of cost to prevent any type of Nadar type from every running. Ron Paul was the closest thing to that but he was never able RL break out due to his own inability to see that by not taking his transferable independent support out of the shackles of the GOP he would never be a viable POTUS candidate. To the stark point that as Independent he would of likley been able to have a legit share of the votes and some States.

Rand Paul was a walking contradiction from his start. He is essentially in father in name only, and his father has to cut a bunch of district deals to give his son higher pecking order within the party.

Where would Rand get one billion +? The Tea Party does have the largest money sources in the GOP via large diners such aa the Koch brothers but them simply.plopping that thatbammlunt is even out of thier ability.
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
RE: Apparently Hillary Clintion is running for President

El Chinito loco said:
Scott Walker - Shady as hell and pretty hated in his own state (by his political opposition who had the voting minority). Had all sorts of policy blunders and I believe the mainstream dissatisfaction with him comes from being inept at budgeting (according to a certain big government point of view). Imagine him running the entire nation...into the ground (from the point of view of government employees fearing for their jobs).

There, fixed it for you.

God forbid he cut the federal government too much!
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
RE: Apparently Hillary Clintion is running for President

Shrodax said:
Dusty said:
Libertas said:
Rand Paul and Jim Webb are the only two candidates worth an acknowledgement.

They both have wives who pass the boner test too.

Rand Paul getting the Republican nomination and Jim Webb getting the Democratic nomination would be my dream for 2016. We might actually get to see a fairly honorable competition for president in that case and an election result that would be good for America no matter who won. So, that means it probably won't ever happen.

Also, if we're gonna use the test of the bangability of candidates' wives, we should've inaugurated President Dennis Kucinich a long time ago.

1302883883-dennis-kucinich-wife.jpg


This is the really value of this thread in a game based forum. Why did Kucinich get a wife like that? He went after hot chicks exclusively, then he charmed their panties off. You know he banged other hot chicks with congressman game before marrying this one.

Lesson: if you go after hot chicks exclusively and learn to charm them, you will find ones that like you, and will be able to fuck them!
 

The Beast1

Peacock
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
RE: Apparently Hillary Clintion is running for President

Shrodax said:
Dusty said:
Libertas said:
Rand Paul and Jim Webb are the only two candidates worth an acknowledgement.

They both have wives who pass the boner test too.

Rand Paul getting the Republican nomination and Jim Webb getting the Democratic nomination would be my dream for 2016. We might actually get to see a fairly honorable competition for president in that case and an election result that would be good for America no matter who won. So, that means it probably won't ever happen.

Also, if we're gonna use the test of the bangability of candidates' wives, we should've inaugurated President Dennis Kucinich a long time ago.

1302883883-dennis-kucinich-wife.jpg

The hilarious side story to Elizabeth Kucinich:

Newly in from England with no knowledge of who Dennis was other than being a Member of Congress, Elizabeth walked into Kucinich's office on 4 May 2005. They had an eight-minute meeting on monetary policy. The second time they met was in New Mexico at another policy event later that month. While in New Mexico they decided to get married and three months later they did so, on 21 August 2005.

Legit went from, "didn't know each other" to "honemooners" in fivish months.
 

Days of Broken Arrows

Crow
Gold Member
RE: Apparently Hillary Clintion is running for President

The Beast1 said:
Shrodax said:
Dusty said:
Libertas said:
Rand Paul and Jim Webb are the only two candidates worth an acknowledgement.

They both have wives who pass the boner test too.

Rand Paul getting the Republican nomination and Jim Webb getting the Democratic nomination would be my dream for 2016. We might actually get to see a fairly honorable competition for president in that case and an election result that would be good for America no matter who won. So, that means it probably won't ever happen.

Also, if we're gonna use the test of the bangability of candidates' wives, we should've inaugurated President Dennis Kucinich a long time ago.

1302883883-dennis-kucinich-wife.jpg

The hilarious side story to Elizabeth Kucinich:

Newly in from England with no knowledge of who Dennis was other than being a Member of Congress, Elizabeth walked into Kucinich's office on 4 May 2005. They had an eight-minute meeting on monetary policy. The second time they met was in New Mexico at another policy event later that month. While in New Mexico they decided to get married and three months later they did so, on 21 August 2005.

Legit went from, "didn't know each other" to "honemooners" in fivish months.

Looks like they've stayed married, too. It'll be ten years this August.

We should consider Kucinich a manosphere icon since he always stuck by his principles -- no matter how unpopular or ridiculed they were -- and he still managed to score (as far as I can see) by far the hottest wife in American politics.

I raise my glass and tip my hat to this man. And, yes, I know this is way off-topic, but that's probably best when the subject is Hillary...
 

MdWanderer

Pelican
Gold Member
RE: Apparently Hillary Clintion is running for President

MrLemon said:
The southern and midwestern states feel like there is NO WAY IN HELL they will vote for a woman. It will be Bush/Paul/Walker vs. Clinton. Bush will win. Everybody will gasp and pretend to faint. But most politicians knew it was coming.

Republican Congress. Republican President. Personally I don't care, I'm focused on getting the hell out of the country.

Well if Bush wins, you better be getting the hell out (I might even be following you). I don't see how he will be any better than Clinton. Heck, he might even be worse. People quickly forget the disaster that was his brother's presidency for eight years with two wars plunging us into the deficit that we are in now and whose father was voted out back in 1992. The two previous Bush administrations were failures I don't see how he will be any different. If he wins, war with Iran will all but be a mere formality; showing that the GOP are still shills for Israel and that they haven't learned a damn thing.

As for Clinton, I won't be surprised to see Elizabeth Warren possibly throw her hat in the ring and challenge her. She can satisfy the Democrats wants for a female candidate as well as a less polarizing figure than Clinton.
 

The Beast1

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Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
RE: Apparently Hillary Clintion is running for President

Days of Broken Arrows said:
The Beast1 said:
Shrodax said:
Dusty said:
Libertas said:
Rand Paul and Jim Webb are the only two candidates worth an acknowledgement.

They both have wives who pass the boner test too.

Rand Paul getting the Republican nomination and Jim Webb getting the Democratic nomination would be my dream for 2016. We might actually get to see a fairly honorable competition for president in that case and an election result that would be good for America no matter who won. So, that means it probably won't ever happen.

Also, if we're gonna use the test of the bangability of candidates' wives, we should've inaugurated President Dennis Kucinich a long time ago.

snipped image

The hilarious side story to Elizabeth Kucinich:

Newly in from England with no knowledge of who Dennis was other than being a Member of Congress, Elizabeth walked into Kucinich's office on 4 May 2005. They had an eight-minute meeting on monetary policy. The second time they met was in New Mexico at another policy event later that month. While in New Mexico they decided to get married and three months later they did so, on 21 August 2005.

Legit went from, "didn't know each other" to "honemooners" in fivish months.

Looks like they've stayed married, too. It'll be ten years this August.

We should consider Kucinich a manosphere icon since he always stuck by his principles -- no matter how unpopular or ridiculed they were -- and he still managed to score (as far as I can see) by far the hottest wife in American politics.

I raise my glass and tip my hat to this man. And, yes, I know this is way off-topic, but that's probably best when the subject is Hillary...

Sticking to your "guns" as a liberal is easy when your beliefs are the du jour intellectual cause. I wouldn't give him too much credit ;)
 

Phoenix

 
Banned
RE: Apparently Hillary Clintion is running for President

Veloce said:
Fucking idiot, there have already been scores of female leaders in the world.

Yeah, and Margaret Thatcher was one of the best leaders outright. I've no problem voting for a woman if she's not a leftist and she sounds competent.

Soma said:
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." -Winston Churchill

I always find Churchill's democracy quips bemusing, given the role he played in the Parliament Act 1911.
 

Days of Broken Arrows

Crow
Gold Member
RE: Apparently Hillary Clintion is running for President

MdWanderer said:
MrLemon said:
The southern and midwestern states feel like there is NO WAY IN HELL they will vote for a woman. It will be Bush/Paul/Walker vs. Clinton. Bush will win. Everybody will gasp and pretend to faint. But most politicians knew it was coming.

Republican Congress. Republican President. Personally I don't care, I'm focused on getting the hell out of the country.

Well if Bush wins, you better be getting the hell out (I might even be following you). I don't see how he will be any better than Clinton. Heck, he might even be worse. People quickly forget the disaster that was his brother's presidency for eight years with two wars plunging us into the deficit that we are in now and whose father was voted out back in 1992. The two previous Bush administrations were failures I don't see how he will be any different. If he wins, war with Iran will all but be a mere formality; showing that the GOP are still shills for Israel and that they haven't learned a damn thing.

As for Clinton, I won't be surprised to see Elizabeth Warren possibly throw her hat in the ring and challenge her. She can satisfy the Democrats wants for a female candidate as well as a less polarizing figure than Clinton.

"Well if Bush wins, you better be getting the hell out (I might even be following you). I don't see how he will be any better than Clinton."

Specifically in terms of men, I can see how Clinton would be a lot worse. First, there's the "paycheck fairness act," which will harm men, their families, and decimate high-risk-but-well-paid male jobs if it's passed. Expect women's groups to lobby her on this one.

Second, while Bush might be a warmonger, she is too and she'll have no compunction sending mostly male troops overseas, yet then go around talking about how women are oppressed. Getting sent off to die is a pretty big form of oppression, I'd say.

Then there's the ever-expanding rape laws, which you have to expect her to get behind. Come to think of it, virtually all the pet subjects on this forum regarding gender relations are things she'll be on the other side of.

Finally, back in 1998, she was quoted as saying the following. I think the below quote, more than anything, sums up how women see men as disposable, and shows exactly why men should fear them as leaders. The obliviousness to the lives, worth, and sacrifices of men in the quote is astounding:

"Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat. Women often have to flee from the only homes they have ever known. Women are often the refugees from conflict and sometimes, more frequently in today’s warfare, victims. Women are often left with the responsibility, alone, of raising the children."
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
RE: Apparently Hillary Clintion is running for President

MdWanderer said:
MrLemon said:
The southern and midwestern states feel like there is NO WAY IN HELL they will vote for a woman. It will be Bush/Paul/Walker vs. Clinton. Bush will win. Everybody will gasp and pretend to faint. But most politicians knew it was coming.

Republican Congress. Republican President. Personally I don't care, I'm focused on getting the hell out of the country.

Well if Bush wins, you better be getting the hell out (I might even be following you). I don't see how he will be any better than Clinton. Heck, he might even be worse. People quickly forget the disaster that was his brother's presidency for eight years with two wars plunging us into the deficit that we are in now and whose father was voted out back in 1992. The two previous Bush administrations were failures I don't see how he will be any different. If he wins, war with Iran will all but be a mere formality; showing that the GOP are still shills for Israel and that they haven't learned a damn thing.

As for Clinton, I won't be surprised to see Elizabeth Warren possibly throw her hat in the ring and challenge her. She can satisfy the Democrats wants for a female candidate as well as a less polarizing figure than Clinton.

The word deficit means spending over your annual income. You mean "debt". Bush's debt was atrocious, that is true. Obama has managed to more than double Bush's debt in his first four years and thinks we don't spend enough. Hillary's economic plans will be much in line with Obama's and at the same time she was a war hawk during Iraq.
 
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