The Honk pill (Clown World)

[integrated]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/scie...man-soul-particle-physics-afterlife-proof-evg

He claims that "there is no measurable evidence of humans having souls that could live on after death." And this is more or less the same as saying that we can't see souls under a microscope, so they don't exist.

This is a ridiculous category error. He is assuming that the soul is of the same nature as phenomenal objects, such as chairs, buildings, and molecules. This is a typical argument atheist argument that stems from the materialist dogma that everything which exists must be observable by the senses, and that anything which is not observable by the senses does not exist.

Brian Cox, and other "scientists" of his ilk keep telling us that consciousness is a product of the brain. There is zero scientific proof that consciousness has ever emerged from lifeless matter. And yet we're continually told that there will be conclusive evidence someday which demonstrates how the brain somehow "generates" awareness by some impossible mechanism. This is nothing but a post-dated cheque - a desperate attempt to prop up the materialist paradigm in the face of enormous amounts of contradictory evidence.

 

[DanielH]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/scie...man-soul-particle-physics-afterlife-proof-evg

The cult of science is putting forward all these scientist that make the whole scientific community seem retarded. When I think scientist now I think Reddit-tier atheist. I know there's good scientists but you never hear about them.

 

[Batman_]

He claims that "there is no measurable evidence of humans having souls that could live on after death." And this is more or less the same as saying that we can't see souls under a microscope, so they don't exist.

This is a ridiculous category error. He is assuming that the soul is of the same nature as phenomenal objects, such as chairs, buildings, and molecules. This is a typical argument atheist argument that stems from the materialist dogma that everything which exists must be observable by the senses, and that anything which is not observable by the senses does not exist.

Brian Cox, and other "scientists" of his ilk keep telling us that consciousness is a product of the brain. There is zero scientific proof that consciousness has ever emerged from lifeless matter. And yet we're continually told that there will be conclusive evidence someday which demonstrates how the brain somehow "generates" awareness by some impossible mechanism. This is nothing but a post-dated cheque - a desperate attempt to prop up the materialist paradigm in the face of enormous amounts of contradictory evidence.

Well, it is silly to say souls don't exist, but since there is zero evidence that they do exist, and zero reason for them to need to exist, it's not that crazy to say. Of course just because you can't observe something doesn't mean it's not there, and I don't think that Brian Cox was making that claim.

Consciousness could very well be a ubiqituous natural phenomonen that occurs everywhere and perhaps human biology simply focuses it in a very specific way. But it's very obvious that human consciousness directly linked to brain activity, you don't need to look any further than the countless examples of brain traumas cause very noticeable changes to someones personality. The mind-body relationship is very real and the idea of an unchanging self that is somehow seperate from human biology is not something I see any reason to believe in.

We've done experiments with split brain patients and have observed two seperate consciousness' forming that have different goals, personalities, etc. Clearly our body and brain account for what makes us human. The difficulty is figuring out whether or not there could be some sort of independent spirit that is associated with the human form, and how its consciousness would be different from the consciousness that exists in our current state. I am open to the idea that there is some kind of consciousness that goes on after death, but I don't think it would be us; the idea that our "self" can go on after death doesn't make much since in this context because the "self" as we know it is merely a collection of memories and personalities based on our environment.

 

[kel]

The cult of science is putting forward all these scientist that make the whole scientific community seem retarded. When I think scientist now I think Reddit-tier atheist. I know there's good scientists but you never hear about them.

Experts and elites in general. A few hundred years ago if I read in the paper "This Oxford professor says...." I'd assume I was about to read something informed and intelligent and from someone to whom I should defer unless I have a good reason otherwise.

Now the same lead in I say "Alright, I can close this tab, the next thing there is going to be retarded at best and retarded and evil at worse, no need to bother".

I think I've said it before here, but between the ridiculous food pyramid debacle (and nutriton "science" in general), global warming doomsday nonsense, and now wuflu lockdowns, the credibility of science is going to be killed for a generation. 70% of people will believe Science™ no matter what because that's what Good Liberals do, 30% of people will just assume whatever they're being told is a politicized lie because that's what experience has taught them. It's unfortunate.

 

[Kingsley Davis]

Experts and elites in general. A few hundred years ago if I read in the paper "This Oxford professor says...." I'd assume I was about to read something informed and intelligent and from someone to whom I should defer unless I have a good reason otherwise.

Now the same lead in I say "Alright, I can close this tab, the next thing there is going to be retarded at best and retarded and evil at worse, no need to bother".

I think I've said it before here, but between the ridiculous food pyramid debacle (and nutriton "science" in general), global warming doomsday nonsense, and now wuflu lockdowns, the credibility of science is going to be killed for a generation. 70% of people will believe Science™ no matter what because that's what Good Liberals do, 30% of people will just assume whatever they're being told is a politicized lie because that's what experience has taught them. It's unfortunate.

30%er checking in. Could add 3% for Illuminati confirmation.

 

[Jünger]

 

[budoslavic]

 

[Johnnyvee]

 

[Jünger]

 

[fokker]

Seems like some racism is more politically correct than others...

 

[budoslavic]

 

[Jünger]

 

[prendergast]

The cult of science is putting forward all these scientist that make the whole scientific community seem retarded. When I think scientist now I think Reddit-tier atheist. I know there's good scientists but you never hear about them.

The good scientists are as far away from contemporary academia as possible.

 

[Jaszczurka]

Google "rachel levine early life"

 

[2 Right Hands]

With such surname do we even have to Google it?

 

[Jünger]

 

[fiasco360]

The cult of science is putting forward all these scientist that make the whole scientific community seem retarded. When I think scientist now I think Reddit-tier atheist. I know there's good scientists but you never hear about them.

The best and most brilliant physics professors I have had were devout Christians.

 

[budoslavic]

 

[homersheineken]

Microsoft got a patent to try and "revive" dead people as chatbots via AI:

Real-life dystopia? Microsoft’s patent to reanimate dead as ‘chatbots’ has Black Mirror fans worried

Microsoft has been granted a patent to “revive” the dead as chatbots, recreating their personality from social postings, writings, and videos to keep their grieving loved ones company. Assuming it doesn’t totally freak them out.

www.rt.com

What will they be called? Democratic Voters?

 

[Jünger]